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<ninjaz2> theUg: no, since it's asking for weird failures to do what you're suggesting.
<karmazilla> it sounds like an entrance to trouble in my ears
<Peper> Dagmar: filetype sorting shows nothing useful
<theUg> ninjaz2 what's ldd?
<Kevin`> oki karmazilla
<Kevin`> ohi
<ninjaz2> theUg: it's a tool that tells you what shared libraries a program is asking the linker for
<theUg> ninjaz2 roger
<ninjaz2> theUg: for instance, say you Debian stable on one partition, and fedora core 5 on the other, with a new X11R7
<ninjaz2> then anything you compile and install on the fc5 box will depend on x11r7 libs in /usr/X11R6/lib of the fc5 install, and fail on the debian side
<Kevin`> 6/7
<theUg> Kevin` could there be problems with automaticly installed RPMs? Like they have their own idea where paths lead,
<Kevin`> theUg I wouldn't use any packages with such a system
<Kevin`> personally
<Kevin`> and yes, to your question
<theUg> I'm just doodling, since I am in partitioning process as we speak, an I wondered, that ll those options (.local, /home, /user et cetera) are for a reason.
<Kevin`> there is no /local in my experience
<ninjaz2> you can make /usr/local separate
<Kevin`> they are for a reason
<theUg> Kevin` Using YaST partitioner it is one of the options.
<Kevin`> personally on most installs i'd have / all one partition
<Kevin`> maybe seperate for /boot
<D|G|TAL> you can have any thing as a seperate partition
<D|G|TAL> its all up to you
<ninjaz2> yup!
<D|G|TAL> you can dance naked if you want too
<ninjaz2> woo!
<ninjaz2> but not outside or you will get arrested and have to knock on all our neighbors doors whenever you move
<theUg> Anyhow, the idea of sharing apps strikes me. I want to try the same with Win 98/Win XP bu there's FS problem
<samalex> anyone a wiz at awk? Wouldn't I use this if I wanted to take a file and strip out only certain parts of each line?
<Kevin`> windows might work a little better for that, if it weren't for the registry
<Kevin`> unless you share parts of the registry
<D|G|TAL> samalex, you could use perl or sed
<D|G|TAL> or awk
<ninjaz2> I would use perl!
<theUg> Thanx, guys, for an input. I'll go the traditional way, then.
<theUg> And what about LVM?
<D|G|TAL> what about it?
<Kevin`> imo, stay away from it
<theUg> How tricky is that?
<Kevin`> for now
<D|G|TAL> very easy
<Kevin`> unless you have a reason to use it
<theUg> Yea, I rea some stuff on it — sounds promising but hella tricky
<ohgood> my door(s) are rattling... windows... to 'ATB - Get High'
<D|G|TAL> not tricky at all
<theUg> God, I hate this Mac keyboard, I miss letters all the time
<theUg> D|G|TAL, you have exp with it?
<theUg> By the way, are regular primary partitions considered Physical Volumes?
<Kevin`> no
<Kevin`> well
<theUg> Or are those just actual separate drives?
<Kevin`> physical .. volume
<theUg> Kevin` it’s cause you’ve got actual device, then partitions, and then stuff like LVM and RAID
<theUg> I guess I am epitomy of noobishness. :/ But we all were at some oint, innit?
<karmazilla> a physical volume is a place that can hold data.. simply put. can be disk partitions, RAID devices and the like
<aridese> hi guys, i nuked my MBR (+ first 40 megabytes of disk)... i had a 180Gb NTFS partition and a 10Gb ext2 -- i'm on a live distribution right now. what can i do?
<Kevin`> search for whichever was the second of them with a partition recovery program
<aridese> haha, my system crashed very sorry
<aridese> probably some hotplug event and, heh -.-
<aridese> the first 40mb would kill the filesystem, right?
<Kevin`> probably
<ninjaz2> aridese: there is a recovery program you can get on the web which has a free trial to tell you what it can find
<Kevin`> free trial bah, get a gpl program
<aridese> any suggestions? gpartd?
<ninjaz2> Kevin`: you know of a gpl program that can fish files off a half-trashed ntfs?
<Kevin`> Dagmar does, and my notes do
<ninjaz2> ok. :-)
<aridese> hah, thanks -- but without the filesystem info, is it possible to fish off the data?
<Kevin`> aridese gpart was what I found for that when I went looking ya
<xyz359> araujo, yeah it is.
<Kevin`> aridese there might be a superblock intact
<xyz359> Trying to get the name of the progrm now.
<Kevin`> you might be able to recover quite a bit with e2fsck
<aridese> ok, thanks
<Kevin`> that bieng in the linux case, of course
<Kevin`> whichever is first is gonna be a problem to recover
<xyz359> http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html, perhaps? o.o;
<chaosboss> hey what's the name of the command that gives you the name of the file(something.jpg) when you give the full path(/etc/something.jpg)?
<ninjaz2> chaosboss: basename
<chaosboss> ninjaz2 thank you!
<ninjaz2> np
<theUg> Thanx for input all.
<ziganow> hallo
<Kevin`> hello ziganow
<ziganow> i've got a question :D
<Kevin`> i've got an answer
<slpyhd> that's forbidden
<Kevin`> uh oh, were caught
<Kevin`> sorry
<ziganow> ???
<theUg> haha
<ziganow> but first i want to say that i cant speak english very good
<ziganow> im from germany
<Roscow> hallo
<Roscow> i am from netherlands
<ziganow> :D
<Roscow> hallo ?
<ziganow> ok my question
<theUg> But you have slavic nick though
<slpyhd> kein problem I can read english very bad
<theUg> Ich wohne in Russland.
<ziganow> i donwloaded knoppix and want to start it from the cd
<ziganow> boot it from the cd
<theUg> Easy, burn iso on it
<mina_linux_Tux> can anyone help me , i'm using this ****ing Noatun , and it's always restarting .. don't know how can kill it .. nor how to let it don't restart always after finish
<Kevin`> is your bios set up to boot a cd?
<ziganow> but when it bood it hangs up
<ziganow> yes
<Kevin`> check that the burn was clean
<theUg> ziganow, put noscsi parameter
<ziganow> what means that
<Kevin`> when does it hang
<ziganow> when i boot with failsafe it work
<theUg> I had the same problem with some systems
<ziganow> but i cannot use usb sticks etc.
<ziganow> i need pcmia and usb stick
<theUg> ziganow on the boot screen, type noscsi
<mina_linux_Tux> anyone ... there have an answer
<ziganow> and then i should work righ?
<theUg> where exactly does it hang
<karmazilla> mina_linux_Tux: press Ctrl+Esc, find the noatun process and kill it.
<Kevin`> uh
<Kevin`> ctrl+esc?
<ziganow> mh i thing there stand pcmia
<theUg> ziganow or you could try expert and go step by step till you see where it hangs
<mina_linux_Tux> karmazilla: and how to know what is the reason that keeps it restarting alwasy ?
<karmazilla> Kevin`: gives process manager in KDE
<karmazilla> mina_linux_Tux: the program is stupid
<Kevin`> root@kevinl:~# noatun
<Kevin`> error403: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
<NeurOne> help http://pastebin.com/540251 error line 6
<NeurOne> hi everybody
<ziganow> mh i thing there stand pcmia
<Kevin`> what's /sbin/runscript
<Kevin`> and whats the error
<NeurOne> the error is the script replace "iwlist ..." by the result ESSID:"truc" that give : if [ ESSID:"truc" != "" ] and the error is command not found
<theUg> ziganow Du mean it hangs when it loads PCMIA?
<Kevin`> do you have iwlist command?
<slpyhd> doh that's not a valid test
<slpyhd> or atleast not a dynamic one
<NeurOne> yes when i type iwlist ra0 scanning | grep -i truc i get that -> ESSID:"myessid"
<slpyhd> it'll always have the same outcome
<slpyhd> X != "" always matches
<NeurOne> i grab this script here at bottom of page http://martijn.zw9.nl/static/computer/linksys_wmp54g_v4_eu_gentoo_linux_rt2500.html
<LiteHedded> how do you set the dns server from the command line?
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