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<Dagmar> If you don't understand IPv4, iproute2/tc will bend you over and perform unnatural acts upon your delicate personage.
<ohgood> Today's Darwin Award Nominee: http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/nakedbikecrash.wmv
<I_v0> Is there X related channel ?
<Kevin`> grr @ wmv format
<I_v0> I've tried #x
<Roscow> hmn
<Dagmar> Maybe ##xorg
<Dagmar> ...but I doubt it
<Kevin`> #xorg does exist
<Dagmar> Ah, that's a good sign
<Kevin`> heh i'm spoiled bieng on freenode, there's an official channel for everything
<I_v0> Kevin` it seems this channel is related to the topic of graphics on linux
<I_v0> oh I ment Dagmar
<I_v0> anyway thanks
<Dagmar> Well, if you're wanting a channel for info on MDMA or something, there's always #Rave on EFnet
<Dagmar> I don't knwo what you'd expect about a channel named #xorg exccept graphics on Linux
<slpyhd> and erowid.org
<ohgood> lol
<ohgood> erowid makes for interesting reading
<Dagmar> slpyhd: I follow the "subtle misdirection" approach on telling people about things that could get them into trouble
<Dagmar> I was a huge fan of TOTSE's "pipe bomb plans"
<Dagmar> It had no less than four different ways for the appropriate authorities to notice you before you could actually come anywhere near to hurting someone
<Dagmar> A recommendation of going to the hardware store and asking to have several pieces of pipe cut up into one foot segments and threaded on each end, a matching set of caps with a hole drilled through half of them.
<Dagmar> De-licious.
<slpyhd> good that information is free, and hopefully remains free
<Dagmar> If you ask for that in any hardware store, they might well take your phone number and tell you when you can pick up the order.
<Dagmar> ...and the moment you turn around, they'll call the police.
<Dagmar> :)
<Dagmar> Filling the things with baking soda and vinegar is another hilarious step in the directions
<slpyhd> I made pipebombs from copper as a kid
<slpyhd> gives a deep thudd
<Kevin`> what, so they build up pressure and explode?
<slpyhd> regular plumber tubing
<Dagmar> ...so even if you DID actually get the aforementioned metal parts, the thing is just going to shoot across the room
<slpyhd> yes
<slpyhd> copper is pretty elastic
<Dagmar> Kevin`: With a hole drilled in one end for the "fuse" they'll be like those little water rockets you could play with as a kid
<Kevin`> I doubt it would explode even if you didn't have the hole
<Dagmar> It wouldn't
<Kevin`> hm, what's the fuse
<Dagmar> The thing had beautiful diagrams and everything
<Kevin`> where does that come in
<Peper> anyway to scan whole partition for superblocks?
<Dagmar> Peper: Yeah, but no real way to recognize them
<Dagmar> Not for sure anyway
<Dagmar> I had to write a perl script to scan for them once
<slpyhd> I used alu powder
<Kevin`> I formatted a large hard drive of mine for about an hour before I realized something and was able to recover most everything
<Dagmar> There's three magic bytes involved, but literally any other sector could also have those same bytes
<Kevin`> good old slow usb
<slpyhd> not literal, but it's the flashpowder
<slpyhd> mixed with unidentified chinese black bowder
<Dagmar> slpyhd: Heh. You should have used powdered rust
<slpyhd> the alupowder is in crackers we call "strijkers"
<Dagmar> Ohhh
<slpyhd> striekrs, HE matches
<Dagmar> slpyhd: You could have just used gunpowder for the fuse you know...
<slpyhd> I was verry lucky thinking back of how I filled them hehe
<Dagmar> There probably wasn't a need to make your fuses water resistant
<slpyhd> I pressed them on a bench
<slpyhd> folder the ends
<slpyhd> fodled
<Dagmar> I learned a terrifying amount about explosives helping my dad remove a stump from the backyard
<slpyhd> argh
<Dagmar> ...at age 10
<slpyhd> haha
<slpyhd> "you go you're the smallest"
<Dagmar> I would recommend anyone thinking of going that route just hire someone
<Dagmar> We took the precaution of driving a screw into the stump, and chaining it to the ground with a two foot metal spike
<Dagmar> It turned out to be a good thing we did that
<Dagmar> I had to guess at some of the calculations
<ohgood> how much stuff did you use ?
<Dagmar> The stumpp practically drew a perfect arc in the air like God's Angry Hammer
<slpyhd> haha
<PurpleSmurf> god doesnt have a hammer
<ohgood> wohooo
<Dagmar> ohgood: Two relatively normall sized bags of nitrogen based fertilizer
<rreck> use your back and dig it out
<ohgood> PurpleSmurf: don't temp him, he can make one
<Dagmar> TWO
<Dagmar> Half of one probably would have done it
<PurpleSmurf> he and i have an understanding
<PurpleSmurf> he speaks and i say
<ohgood> (:
<Iam8up|lappy> i'm trying to add a crontab job, can anyone tell me if this is a correct line?
<Iam8up|lappy> 5 * * * * /usr/sbin/pvpgnstatus.sh
<Dagmar> Major, major miscalculation on my part
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Looks fine to me. You want that running every hour at five past the hour then?
<PurpleSmurf> once a day 5 past every hour
<PurpleSmurf> rm past
<Iam8up|lappy> Dagmar - every 5 minutes...
<PurpleSmurf> 5m past
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Make the first argument "*/5" then
<PurpleSmurf> is there a * missing?
<PurpleSmurf> Dagmar that's wrong
<PurpleSmurf> oops sorry
<Dagmar> ...which means "eevry time the minute is evenly divisble by 5"
<PurpleSmurf> didnt see is recent post
<Iam8up|lappy> */5 * * * * /usr/sbin/pvpgnstatus.sh
<Iam8up|lappy> so that's every 5 minutes
<Dagmar> There you gio
<PurpleSmurf> yea
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Just remember that ANYTHING that script emits to stdout or stderr will be MAILED to you
<PurpleSmurf> chk your mail early and often
<Dagmar> If you don't want that, add umm... 2>/dev/null 1>/dev/null to the end
<PurpleSmurf> 2>&1 >/dev/null
<Iam8up|lappy> Dagmar - oh ya...
<Dagmar> Every five minutes can mean a lot of emails if you forget about it for six months, and a very full /var/spool
<Iam8up|lappy> */5 * * * * /usr/sbin/pvpgnstatus.sh 2>/dev/null
<Dagmar> That's literally the only thing that's ever killed one of my firewalls
<Iam8up|lappy> Dagmar - is this correct?
<Peper> how can i try to recover some data from overriten ext3 with mke2fs?
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Yeah, it should be fine, except 2 is stderr. I'm thinking you probably want 1>/dev/null instead. Errors might be important
<Iam8up|lappy> stderr?
<tgwj> stderr is where the errors go
<Dagmar> peper; If you feel like a little reading, you can try using TASK, The At-Stake Kit
<tgwj> normal output is written to stdout, which is file #1
<Iam8up|lappy> Dagmar - so this is correct...
<Iam8up|lappy> */5 * * * * /usr/sbin/pvpgnstatus.sh 1>/dev/null
<Dagmar> Peper: There should be liveCDs of it available somewhere or other
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Almost certainly
<PurpleSmurf> ext3 wipes out the inodes on rm
<Iam8up|lappy> Dagmar - thanks a ton man!
<PurpleSmurf> find the blocks that had the data
<infoB> how can i print html with CUPS?
<tgwj> you can skip the '1' (ie >/dev/null )
<Dagmar> infoB: Maybe p*** it through lynx -dump first
<Dagmar> tgwj: I'm always explicit about it in case someone clueless comes through behind me
<Kevin`> tgwj convert to postscript
<Dagmar> Yeah, html2ps should work for that
<Dagmar> I keep forgetting that CUPS can handle ps
<Kevin`> er
<Kevin`> that to infoB
<Iam8up|lappy> tgwj - but that would mean it wouldn't express errors to me...
<Dagmar> Peper: TASK was designed to recover data people typically don't want recovered, like hastily deleted evidence
<Dagmar> Peper: If there's any way of recovering that data reasonably and in a useable format, TASK will be able to do it
<Dagmar> TASK is also not very hard to use
<Dagmar> It's just a little complex and slightly arcane because of the nature of the task
<tgwj> Iam8up|lappy if you feel more comfortable witht that then that's fine, but skipping the '1' would still output stderr to the console (or in that case the email)
<Dagmar> It's also one of those things you can charge people $200/hour for knowing how to use
<Dagmar> i.e., TASK is not a happy shiny Win32 GUI app.
<Iam8up|lappy> tgwj - i'd prefer it to be put in the email, becuase i don't have a console on all the time, and i watch it less
<gaz-> is there any good download sites for .deb files anyone recommends?
<tgwj> Iam8up|lappy yes, that is what cron does.
<Iam8up|lappy> tgwj - oh..ok
<Kevin`> gaz- debian mirrors...
<Dagmar> Iam8up|lappy: Mind you, local mail has to be set up correctly on that machine. Cron doesn't take outside email addresses
<tiraz> hi
<tiraz> iam new to linux what's the difference between i383 , i585 , i686 ?
<tgwj> hi
<Dagmar> You will need procmail if you're going ot try to relay that out of there with ~/.forward
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