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<tgwj> the manufracturer ? the handbook ? the windows driver ?
<ohgood> bah! Why the hell do decent sites like NPR /PRI /ETC have to use such ****ty processes for audio streams ? <rant> Why the hell can't they just provide links directly to whatever content ? <arrrgh, rant>
<peterbrett> ohgood: Believe me, I feel your pain
<infoB> ananke, how can i do it via command line?
<ananke> infoB : are you sure your ppd driver even supports it? do you ever answer any questions?
<ohgood> peterbrett: man, i've corresponded with the 'techie' guys @ stations several times, and they just don't seem to understand that a SIMPLE LINK is easier for everyone. <sheesh>
<ohgood> (javascript blah) doesn't really help anything along
<infoB> ananke, i don't understand last part of your question
<redduck666> infoB, tgwj asked you a question and you haven`t answered
<ananke> nevermind. i don't play an english teacher
<peterbrett> ohgood: Yup. The BBC are particularly annoying.
<peterbrett> ohgood: Why can't they provide a Shoutcast stream?
<ohgood> peterbrett: good question
<ohgood> peterbrett: i think maybe it's the 'old guys' running the station that make policy, and forget that, well, they're old.
<tgwj> haven't the bbc even *developed* their own codec for something ?
<ohgood> tgwj: omgosh, have they been that silly ? :\
<tgwj> maybe it was a video codec, I'm not sure...
<peterbrett> tgwj: Yep, it's their own video codec
<ohgood> man, that is retarded
<Kevin`> hey, microsoft did it
<tgwj> I don't believe that because I read the codec was free/open
<peterbrett> ohgood: I've heard it's pretty efficient actually. Also OSS, so it'll be integrated well into stuff other than MSWin
<tgwj> but maybe I remember wrong......
<Kevin`> no, microsoft made their own codecs
<tgwj> oh ya...
<ohgood> peterbrett: hard to argue with yacodec, specially OSS stuff, but why have yacodec ?
<tgwj> and forced tem into general use with their usual strategies...
<peterbrett> ohgood, tgwj: http://dirac.sourceforge.net/
<ohgood> Kevin`: microsoft could od great things with all the brainpower they have... why doesn't it seem that way, in the end prodcut ? ;)
<ohgood> peterbrett: ty kindly
<infoB> ananke, what is ppd?
<Kevin`> ohgood intersting to think about
<Dagmar> infoB: It's a pppd with no real direction in life
<Dagmar> It's the Point Protocol Daemon, useful for communicating with itself and itself only.
<Kevin`> lol
<ohgood> Kevin`: i mean, there is ALOT of brainpower there. So genuinly smart/creative folks... is it just hte borg virus killing their intellect ? :D
<Dagmar> OKay, Aphex Twin is cool in allof it's names but do you really need your mp3 script to echo into here?
<Dagmar> ohgood: It's the OSX-Syndrome.
<ananke> infoB : it's a driver for your printer. you know, the one you picked to be used to run your printer in cups
<Dagmar> Things get easy, the brain gets soft and flabby.
<ohgood> Dagmar: penis envy (os x) ?
<Dagmar> This is why everyone should have an OS with lots of sharp edges.
<ohgood> lol :D
<Dagmar> Notably, sharp edges that have been documented by someonne.
<slpyhd> osx generates couch potatosacks
<slpyhd> liek windows mediacentres
<Dagmar> Not sharp edges that move around and occasionally chop userspace into pepperoncini's like Windows
<ryen> my mommy always said not to play with sharp edges :(
<Dagmar> slpyhd: I'm serious. Go to a CompUSA in any major metropolitan city and take a gander at the Mac area, or just look into the window of a Mac store (DO NOT GO INSIDE)
<tgwj> peterbrett wants DOS
<Dagmar> There's a lot of parallels between the vague dreamlike smiles on the faces of the users there, and the Pod People
<ohgood> hehe
<peterbrett> tgwj: telinit1; fdisk /dev/sda1
<peterbrett> s/telinit1/telinit 1/
<Dagmar> Something sinister is at work there.
<slpyhd> I dont liek computerstores
<Dagmar> YAY for someone using telinit instead of invoking init directly
<slpyhd> mailorder is the way to go
<slpyhd> and thorrough research
<slpyhd> keep socializing to a minimum
<Dagmar> slpyhd: how are you supposed to know what to download if you can't go somewhere and browse boxes?
<ohgood> Dagmar: i own a mac. i actually like it. i'll hvae to get a mirror, for the next time i turn it on though.
<slpyhd> hehe
<Dagmar> ohgood: Oh just have it's built in camera take a picture of you
<peterbrett> Is there a way to start FC4 in read-only mode?
<slpyhd> agreed you have to have a frame of reference
<ohgood> Dagmar: nay, the ppc- pb12" has no monitoring dev^H^H^H 'camera'
<slpyhd> but a random download can create that
<Kevin`> peterbrett 'single' probably
<Peper> my tragic history:
<Dagmar> slpyhd; Honestly tho, I've gotten hellishly lazy in the last few years. I'll blaze through the local computer store and slap a register with my credit card because it's faster than Bittorrent by a large margin
<Peper> had ext3 (/dev/vg/home) on LVM
<Dagmar> I still won't tolerare that Starforce **** on my machine tho
<slpyhd> hehe
<peterbrett> Kevin`: Mm, that's what I thought, but it looks like it still remounts my partitions rw
<ohgood> Dagmar: starforce, sony ?
<Dagmar> That damn "licence manager" has the *exact* same issues as the Sony "rootkit" DRM
<Peper> and unwillingly: mke2fs /dev/vg/home :( any way to recover?
<Kevin`> peterbrett check /proc/mounts
<ohgood> Peper: dead, gone, done, sorry
<Kevin`> or, do init=/bin/sh
<Dagmar> ohgood: I am somewhat glad that racing game that Penny Arcade talked about last week isnt' actually a racing game
<Dagmar> It installs Starforce
<peterbrett> Kevin`: Yeah, I will next time I have a reason to need to :)
<ohgood> Dagmar: hehe
<Peper> ohgood: there must be some way
<Dagmar> WHY you'd bother to put starforce into a FREE piece of software I have no idea
<Dagmar> It's not like you're protecting against the theft and piracy of free
<Kevin`> what's starforce
<ohgood> Peper: you could always just use you backups
<Peper> ohgood: what has been overwritten by mke2fs?
<peterbrett> Next slightly odd question: How do I delete my bootloader?
<tgwj> starforce = copy 'protection'
<ohgood> Peper: everything
<Dagmar> Starforce is a copy protection mechanism which calls itself a "licenced product manager" which happens to install a sackful of freaking ring-0 drivers, just like that Sony DRM nonsense did
<Kevin`> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1 count=446
<ananke> Peper : all superblocks have been overwritten
<Peper> ohgood: but files not
<Kevin`> let me check that first though
<ohgood> Kevin`: YIKSE
<DarkCow> How can I change my gtk theme?
<Dagmar> I.e, if this thing is on your machine, you can be running with a limited user account and all that's necessary to gain root is to call the starforce libs
<Peper> ananke: but maybe not the same superblocks
<Kevin`> he asked :)
<ohgood> lol
<Dagmar> It takes XP security and shoots it squarely in the face
<peterbrett> Kevin`: I don't want to delete my partition table, just my bootloader
<ananke> Peper : most likely the same ones, since they're calculated by the size of the device
<Kevin`> peterbrett that is what that command will do
<peterbrett> Kevin`: Mm, I hope so. :)
<Kevin`> back it up first, it's small..
<Peper> ananke: size was changed before that
<Dagmar> So basically, the Starforce people have decided that protecting their products is more important than home users *actually* having security in their compuler
<Dagmar> er computer
<Peper> ananke: +5G was added
<ohgood> peterbrett: count=512, bs=1, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION: dd if=/dev/zero count=512 bs=1 of=/dev/hda (THE MBR)
<Peper> ananke: how can i check that?
<ananke> Peper : if you resized the filesystem before formatting, then same thing. all superblocks have been overwritten
<ananke> heh
<ohgood> peterbrett: ya, it'll muck things if you do it in the wrong place, wrong 'bs' or 'count'
<ananke> peterbrett : whatever ohgood told you will wipe the partition table
<ananke> follow what Kevin` said
<Kevin`> ohgood WRONG
<Kevin`> that will delete the partition table too
<ohgood> mmm ?
<ohgood> Kevin`: how many blocks ?
<ananke> ohgood : go google for 446 mbr
<peterbrett> Kevin`: I'm guessing 446-512 are the partition table
<ananke> hell, a basic rhce would know that
<Kevin`> 446-510
<Kevin`> er
<Peper> ananke: anyway how can i check if any superblock hasn't been overwritten
<ohgood> ahhh
<Kevin`> 447-510
<peterbrett> Kevin`: What if I just delete the first block?
<Dagmar> peterbrett: You basically want the first 512 bytes off the disk, and the first 512 bytes ONLY. bs is block size, and count is the number of times it will be read. count=1 and bs=512 is marginally (a few clockcycles) more efficient but does the same thing
<Kevin`> ie bs=1 count=1?
<Dagmar> You can't "delete" a block from the disk. You can only overwrite them.
<Kevin`> the first 'blocl' is 512
<peterbrett> Dagmar: That's what I meant
<Dagmar> bs=1 count=1 will only read ONE byte
<Kevin`> and you don't want to delete it
<ananke> peterbrett : question is, wtf would you want that?
<Okita> Suddenly, I'm experiencing a delay between the last init script starting, and getting a login prompt at vt1, how would I check to see what's causing it?
<ohgood> ananke: who said they were a rhce ?
<peterbrett> ananke: My Windows XP install CD is being a b*tch
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