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<Kevin`> I need a better antenna for my wireless card
<ninjaz2> as opposed to running individual windows for each program
<Kevin`> indeed, otherwise windows is the window manager
<blz321> ahh, kwin didnt start
<ehaase> i'm getting the following error message in dia: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0860c990 ***... anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
<Kevin`> what'd dia
<blz321> so should i just remove xserver-xfree86? since im using colinux as a client to an windows xserver?
<blz321> i dont really need it right
<Kevin`> you might need libraries and stuff
<ninjaz2> not from xserver-xfree86
<Dagmar> ehaase: Yeah, your dia binary wasn't meant to run on that machine
<Dagmar> MAYBE using `MALLOC_CHECK_=0 dia` will work
<ninjaz2> maybe xlibs-xfree86, but not xserver-xfree86 ;)
<ninjaz2> if this is package-based, it should heartily complain before removing libraries that a bunch of stuff depends on, anyway
<Dagmar> ninjaz2: You're ***uming the user isn't disregarding instructions and warnings
<ninjaz2> Dagmar: well, you need to p*** special command-lines to ignore dependencies with rpm, anyway
<ninjaz2> actually I think every package manager I've used has done that
<Kevin`> I don't think slackware's will
<Dagmar> This is on windows
<ninjaz2> but it's colinux with a package he installed. ;)
<Kevin`> is colinux like cygwin or does it use emulation of some sort
<Kevin`> looks non-free (!)
<ninjaz2> it's a linux kernel port, so it's bound by GPL
<ninjaz2> anyway there is finally an answer to the question: where do I get linux for windows? ;)
<Kevin`> haha
<Kevin`> "download open colinux for $19.90"
<Kevin`> what's that, site doesn't display so good in links
<Noet> linux for windows, bah, but try out lindows(or something like that), have heard its easy to install for newbies.
<ninjaz2> the downloads are on sourceforge
<Kevin`> yes, for the actual kernel project, but what's that (first google result for colinux)
<redduck666> Noet, i think lindows was sued by m$
<redduck666> Noet, i think they agreed to change their name for ~20 M$
<ninjaz2> Kevin`: apparently a productized product based on it
<redduck666> Noet, and i think they are now known as linspire
<ninjaz2> yeah, not a bad deal $20M and a bunch of free publicity
<Noet> redduck666, kk, not sure was long time since i saw lindows on some site.
<Kevin`> lindows -> linspire
<Noet> wouldn't surprise me if M$ sued them, greedy b******.
<Kevin`> ?
<ninjaz2> Kevin`: yeah
<ninjaz2> http://www.pcworld.com/resource/browse/0,cat,1706,sortIdx,1,00.asp
<infi> old news
<ninjaz2> Microsoft will pay $20 million to end legal battle, while Lindows will become Linspire. (19-Jul-2004)
<blz321> colinux is awesome
<blz321> should i just delete the contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager since im using a windows x server?
<blz321> or should i put the export DISPLAY=ip:0 command?
<Kevin`> was lindows ever that popular?
<Noet> it must have been
<ninjaz2> Kevin`: wal-mart was selling it
<Noet> if M$ tried to sue them
<redduck666> Kevin`, it was popular at a pont that i heard of it (when i was a windows user)
<ninjaz2> Noet: they weren't popular, just got a lot of press
<Noet> ninjak, k, well anyhow its wierd how M$ puts down money and effort for such a name. I mean i can imagine what that battle between Windows/Lindows must have costed M$
<ehaase> Dagmar: what do you mean my dia binary wasn't mean to run on my machine?
<Kevin`> what's dia
<redduck666> Noet, yeah, and in USA the court told ms to kiss of
<Noet> redduck666, =)
<redduck666> Noet, that word 'windows' existed WAY before ms
<ninjaz2> http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2127420238.html says that it had 9% in a Jan 2003 poll
<ninjaz2> and not mentioned in 2004
<Noet> yeah
<fantomas> Hi. Can a user start X server?
<Kevin`> X
<ninjaz2> oh wait, there it is on the graph at under 5% ;)
<fantomas> Kevin`: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
<Kevin`> owtf
<ehaase> Kevin`: a drawing program
<ninjaz2> it's interesting how low red hat's percentages are, though. I would have never seen that coming in 1999.
<Kevin`> starting an X server has caused my console to become now very dim, and unusable
<Kevin`> using intelfb
<Noet> ninjak, well tbh red hat ****s :/
<ehaase> Noet: what would you recommend?
<Noet> it must be one of my most hated distros
<ehaase> cuz its bloated?
<ninjaz2> Noet: well, **** and marketshare are not often that related. ;)
<Noet> ninjak, =)
<Kevin`> someone help me fix it :/
<Noet> ehaase, well my favorite distros must be: gentoo/ubuntu
<fantomas> Anybody knows is there a way to start X by non-root? Currently it failed with a message: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
<Noet> ehaase, but everyone got their own taste.
<ninjaz2> I think the real reason for its low marketshare is probably the aggressive pricing and corporate focus
<MrEntropy> are there any major problems in going from an install which is 2.4 to 2.6. In other words my install is currently on 2.4, would i experience any major issues if i was to compile and boot a 2.6 kernel on it?
<ninjaz2> and also the reason they are making a bunch of money ;)
<Noet> ninjak, yea
<Kevin`> MrEntropy it's possible
<blz321> im trying to install a package but it keeps failing, it says it tries to overwrite something but fails
<redduck666> MrEntropy, i think 2.6.15 dropped devfs support
<Noet> blz321, might you be trying to install an earlier version of a package?(that'll say you have a higher version installed already?)
<Kevin`> someone help me fix my terminal, I have to use telnet on windows :(
<PeanutHorst> redduck666, so if i upgrade to 2.6.15.1 i can't use /dev/sda0 anymore?
<MrEntropy> hmm, curses
<PeanutHorst> OH THE INJUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
<Dagmar> Perhaps it's time you realized that what they've said on http://opensource.eu.com/colinux/ is mostly bull****
<Dagmar> Particularly "Very easy and fully automatic installation"
<blz321> i cant do nethign now, every apt-get command doesnt do nething, it keeps saying unmet dependences, i tried apt-get -f install, dist-upgrade, update, clean, autoclean
<blz321> wat should i do??
<Dagmar> blz321: Use a *real* linux distro
<redduck666> PeanutHorst, it just uses udev instead of devfs
<Dagmar> Or a liveCD like Knoppix
<Dagmar> ...or prepare to try to convince them to refund you your money
<ninjaz2> heh, heh
<ninjaz2> a refund on software?
<Noet> have to agree with Dagmar , both Ubuntu & gentoo is easy to install and works perfectly.
<Noet> Ubuntu altho is the easiest of the 2, but both are awesome.
<Dagmar> I know if I ever hear of any Dropline stuff in that distro I'll be making their lives hell
<Dagmar> The Debian guys might not be very happy about their name being used
<redduck666> Noet, so what makes gentoo so special?
<blz321> wat does uable to get io port access imply
<blz321> ?
<Dagmar> The need to read a basic UNIX primer
<Noet> redduck666, well i like gentoo because of their portage system, everything works without much h***le.
<redduck666> Noet, compiling times?
<blz321> huh?
<blz321> iopl error
<Dagmar> blz321: Clearly that product is broken beyond belief
<Noet> redduck666, you mean how long it takes for me to compile from Stage1?
<redduck666> Noet, yes, but not only that
<Noet> well it doesn't take to long, normal i guess, never really "timed it".
<redduck666> Noet, in my experience it takes fairly long to compile pretty much everything
<Noet> redduck666, well there is another option
<Noet> choose stage 3(= no compile, if you are in a hurry)
<Noet> stage 2 = less compiling.
<Noet> 1 = alot of compiling.
<redduck666> Noet, but compiling 'normal' things is still a lengthy operation
<redduck666> Noet, beside last time i checked -C couldn`t do dependecies, which kinda ****s
<unholy-crap> apparently I don't have apm configured correctly, because it does not display any battery info
<unholy-crap> but I can still send the compute rto suspend or sleep more with apm -s
<Noet> redduck666, yeah
<Noet> between, have anyone here tried Archlinux?
<unholy-crap> anyone want to give me a hint as to where i should be looking to configure apm?
<redduck666> Noet, and it wants me to run dispatch-conf after i emerge things to keep conf files up to date
<Noet> Got interested in trying it out, but not sure if its worth the h***le.
<Dagmar> unholy-crap: It's rather likely that your motherboard's BIOS is screwey, or doesn't actually do APM
<blz321> how do you specify the frontend??
<Dagmar> unholy-crap: What model notebook is it?
<blz321> the FRONTEND variable i guess
<unholy-crap> its a Gateway m505
<blz321> y doesnt everyone here love colinux
<blz321> i mean u can have linux and windows
<blz321> at ur fingertips
<Dagmar> unholy-crap: That motherboard does ACPI according to http://gentoo-wiki.com/User_talk:Agra#Gateway_M505_.28M500B1.29_Specifications:
<Noet> blz321, or else you dual boot like me? ^^
<blz321> colinux and winxp man, its awesome
<blz321> yea but u cant run winxp progs at the same time as colinux
<ninjaz2> heh
<Dagmar> blz321: Yes, clearly it's the bees knees for coming up with new brokenness
<blz321> u have to stop one n start the other
<Noet> windows(almost never in there tho)+Ubuntu(mostly here)+mayby archlinux later ons ome other partition ^^
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