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<orlok> PeterFA: stop it with fortune already :)
<psi-jack> infi: Eh?
<infi> make sure you replace hda with your correct drive, and don't add a slice number after it
<PeterFA> orlok, it's not fortune this time.
<infi> psi-jack, your system is likely not going to boot. and I'm not responsible. I told you what you wanted to know.
<ninjaz2> there is no 'i' in unacceptable!
<psi-jack> infi: Right. :)
<psi-jack> infi: It will boot. I'm re-doing a new system. I'll be installing Grub onto a bootable filesystem, rather than in MBR.
<ninjaz2> psi-jack: well the mbr needs code to choose the active filesystem
<psi-jack> ninjaz2: Hmmm.. Dangit..
<infi> yep.
<infi> when bios finishes POST, it loads the MBR into memory and does a far jump to 0x7c00 (iirc). if it's all zeros, nothing should happen :)
<psi-jack> So, really, the only way to get it to work, is to use MSDOS's fdisk /mbr ?
<infi> so your notion of "clearing" the MBR really means replacing it with another type of MBR
<psi-jack> infi: True.. You have me there. :)
<infi> yeah, or any of the other myriad boot loaders in the universe
<psi-jack> I see.
<infi> what do you actually want?
<Dagmar> Guilt-free porno
<infi> reject Jesus, and it's all guilt-free
<psi-jack> I want my /dev/hde1 to be bootable, using grub, instead of grub being in the MBR.
<infi> let me rephrase this
<infi> what do you want to happen when you turn your computer on?
<psi-jack> infi: Well, /dev/hde is my boot device. I want it to boot grub off /dev/hde1
<infi> grub can point to your /dev/hde1 just as well as any other partition, you know
<map7home> has anyone here setup an x terminal?
<orlok> map7home: as in oldschool hardware X11 display device?
<ignacio> I have. But it was a hardware X terminal.
<psi-jack> infi: This is true. But I plan on installing Win98 here under Qemu, and I don't want it mucking with the MBR.
<Dagmar> How it's going to get at your real mbr outside of qemu I don't know
<infi> windows' boot loader isn't designed to handle multiple operating systems
<ignacio> Well, ntldr is.
<Dagmar> infi: Well, 98's loader isn't anyway. XP and the other NT-cored ones can
<infi> I think there's a PEBCAK error here
<infi> sorry, that's what I meant :)
<map7home> I'm trying setup ltsp on a boot up floppy on an old Pentium 75 to connect to a server
<orlok> Dagmar: goddamn, the SL server was on just went away
<Dagmar> orlok: That's a rare thing... I guess they're doing an update
<orlok> yeah, it was a nice disconnect too
<Dagmar> The last code build had some rather annoying new bugs so I guess it's not all that suprising
<orlok> "This is shutting down, d you want to connect to the live chat forums or quit completely?"
<orlok> flying is nice
<map7home> ignacio was that a wyse terminal?
<orlok> i went for a walk straight off a cliff, down under the water was instructions on flying :)
<Dagmar> orlok: BEWARE items like the x-flight control rod that change your movement rates
<ignacio> No, a NCD Systems' Xplora.
<Dagmar> orlok: The settings don't revert to "normal" when you detach the object
<orlok> map7home: i've got a wyse terminal here, but its a vt emulator, but i used to have a labtam xterm
<orlok> heh
<orlok> Dagmar: i used to run a MOO, many years ago
<orlok> with _dialins_
<Dagmar> orlok: Oh then you're going to get a real kick out of SL
<orlok> i loved the whole MOO object oriented stuff, never really got all of the c based mud's
<Dagmar> Just be very wary of scoping when you make objects that spawn copies of themselves or communicate with each other
<orlok> yeah
<orlok> i know
<PeterFA> Procrastinate now, don't put it off.
<Dagmar> Trust me it's way easy to shut down an entire chunk of the map
<orlok> i remember having OO related programming bugs crop up in the moo
<orlok> my brother was using the server as a devel sysem too, and every so ften it wuld start chewing 99% cpu
<orlok> and his comiles would grind to a halt
<orlok> Dagmar: actually, this is what he was working on at the time.. http://old.zog.net.au/computers/obsidian/
<PeterFA> The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
<orlok> Dagmar: check it out for "ahead of its time"... it was built on redhat 4.* :)
<IAmWill> Anyone here use gdesklets?
<Dagmar> orlok: Yeah, but it uses svgalib which is kinda ick now
<AnAnt> how can I mount or open DMG files ?
<infi> so, a couple of years ago one of my coworkers took her computer into the shop, and they told her that she had a memory-resident virus, and it wasn't cleaning itself out of memory between system boots. they claimed that memory doesn't zero itself out between cold boots.
<Dagmar> lol
<Sneaky_Bastard> they lied
<orlok> Dagmar: a P66 was "****hot" back then.. and doom was still waycool.. we used to run 4 player doom via tcp over modem!
<Sneaky_Bastard> orlok: back in the day
<chron> anyone know about any other services similar to no-ip.com?
<orlok> 16 meg of ram and a 512 meg wide scsi drive.. it was flying
<infi> I call bull****, but then I started reading, and I found some references to that. but that completely defies the way RAM is supposed to work :b
<Sneaky_Bastard> I remember Aliens Doom TC, before they got Foxed
<Sneaky_Bastard> :(
<linnuxxy> is there an open source project to create a global search engine ... just like google?
<Dagmar> infi: They were still dead wrong
<infi> thought so
<orlok> Sneaky_Bastard: so do i, it wasnt that great... i met the guy that made the chooklauncher :)
<Sneaky_Bastard> "chooklauncher" ?
<Sneaky_Bastard> what are you talkinga bout ?
<orlok> yeah
<orlok> rocket launcher that fired chooks
<orlok> was very well done
<Sneaky_Bastard> what's a chook ?
<orlok> doom mod :)
<orlok> chicken
<Sneaky_Bastard> then you are not talking about Aliens Doom TC
<Sneaky_Bastard> because there was not chicken launcher in it
<orlok> no, just doom :)
<infi> there was the other guy who claimed that the CMOS information was stored in the onboard battery
<infi> he was an MCSE.
<orlok> heh
<Sneaky_Bastard> infi: well,w hat do you expect ?
<infi> exactly
<orlok> of course, thats why it goes away when you disconnect it :)
<PeterFA> Honk If You've Never Seen An Uzi Fired From A Car Window.
<Sneaky_Bastard> Minimal Computer Science Examination
<Sneaky_Bastard> :D
<orlok> infi: its funny, bcause logically, you can see how he arrived at that conclusion.. but also, he must have absoloutly no real experience in geek **** at all
<Sneaky_Bastard> I'm telling you the REAL definition for "MCSE"
<Sneaky_Bastard> :p
<AnAnt> how can I mount an apple HFS partition ?
<Sneaky_Bastard> Minimal Computer Science Examination
<orlok> infi: like.. battery+wire+light.. join the wire, light goes on.. etc.. the sort of stuff i was fiddling around with when i was 6 or something
<PeterFA> orlok, what are we talking about?
<infi> orlok, he was actually even referring to the backup batteries, you know, the 4 AA battery-style backups that connect via a jumper
<orlok> <infi> there was the other guy who claimed that the CMOS information was stored in the onboard battery
<orlok> <infi> he was an MCSE.
<orlok> PeterFA: that
<Sneaky_Bastard> AnAnt: perhaps on a nice lacquered and polished board, with a metal name tag
<orlok> infi: hah!
<orlok> yes
<infi> he actually sat in a meeting, held one up, and said this in front of about 10 IT people
<orlok> they mix the good anf flat batteries
<infi> 4 ****in AA batteries!
<orlok> it stores 4 bits worth
<orlok> :-\
<infi> heh
<Sneaky_Bastard> a battery is a one-bit data storage element
<PeterFA> I was told by this guy who owns a wireless business that he hired a guy from the college who he had install Windows 2003 Server. The guy didn't patch it up, just plugged into the 'net. It took out their network and half the cities backbone.
<Sneaky_Bastard> :p
<Sneaky_Bastard> On or Off :p
<orlok> PeterFA: i'm not going to ask who he worked for
<orlok> but it sounds pretty typical of a wireless provider
<AnAnt> huh ?
<PeterFA> orlok, MCSE == M$ Cert. ?? Engineer?
<orlok> PeterFA: microsoft certified systems engineer.. or minesweeper consultant, solitait expert
<PeterFA> orlok, I've heard of these "Certifications."
<PeterFA> You're certified crap. that's what you are.
<infi> yup
<roblaptop> ouch
<infi> I just quit a job managing 12 of them because I couldn't take it anymore :b
<Sneaky_Bastard> Moron Claiming Systems Expertise
<orlok> PeterFA: eh? i sure as hell dont have on :)
<PeterFA> Our schools has such a crappy 1 year degree that graduates do not know what the Product Key is...so they can't install Windows...which, now that I think about it, is not a bad thing.
<orlok> i took the test for an MCP once
<orlok> WIndows NT exam iirc
<orlok> workstation.. i'd never used it, stufied some cheatsheets for 30 minutes, failed by one point
<orlok> i got 666, needed 777
<orlok> uhh, 667
<orlok> wish i'd framed it
<PeterFA> lol
<infi> the devil ruined it for you
<orlok> no, the devil saved me from something worse
<infi> I actually took them and p***ed them, but that was in like 1996
<PeterFA> I wonder how Linus Torvalds would do.
<infi> they were so teh gay
<infi> then I went to unix, and never looked back (most recent job excepted)
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