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<psi-jack> lmm: Hmmm.. I've heard XFS might be able to. Not sure about JFS. But I've found out, the hard way, ext3 can't. And Reiser3 can't either.
<martian67> he dosent ***** around the fact HE IS GOING TO EAT YOUR ****ING HEART
<martian67> :)
<Sneaky_Bastard> he works in the NOC
<Dagmar> Lokey: You're not starting to regret it now?
<orlok> i have a plush cthulhu dool
<Sneaky_Bastard> :D
<PeanutHorst> used it a while back
<orlok> doll
<Lokey> gore woulda fuct up the internet sooooooooooooo badly
<PeanutHorst> 'twas good.
<orlok> Lokey: and i've got that cthulgu for president badge :)
<Dagmar> martian67: Your heart, your head, your legs, your house, the neighborhood.... everything.
<martian67> heh
<Lokey> i used to have that bumpersticker on my car orlok
<Sneaky_Bastard> Gore was the person who pushed through almost all the funding for Internet I backbone and infrastructure before it went commercial
<Lokey> sold the car :S
<orlok> bugger!
<Sneaky_Bastard> back in the day
<lmm> psi-jack: I don't think xfs can, it's been years since I used it though. Not a clue about JFS
<Dagmar> Lokey: Nah, Gore actually uses the internet a lot (contrary to popular belief)
<orlok> did you take the bumper bar off? :)
<theUg> It was funny when it started, but now it got old
<Lokey> Dagmar: he was gonna tollbooth the net
<Sneaky_Bastard> Gore really was "instrumental in the creation of the Internet" as we know it today
<Dagmar> Lokey: Anything that started to negatively affect it in a serious way, he'd notice and probably correct
<orlok> Sneaky_Bastard: yeah, didnt he sign a form or something?
<Dagmar> Bah,, he got it into Schools
<Sneaky_Bastard> it was Wired magazine that did a hatchet job article on him
<theUg> Sneaky_Bastard was it ironic or you mean it?
<martian67> wired is a joke
<Sneaky_Bastard> misquoting him
<Dagmar> That's not that big of a deal. Colleges were already hot and bothered to get hooked up
<martian67> more about style than substance
<Dagmar> Underfunded public schools in Tennessee can barely find things for students to do,, let alone keep them out of trouble on the internet
<Sneaky_Bastard> colleges didn't have the money from the government to pay for it
<Sneaky_Bastard> until Gore pushed for it.
<Dagmar> Colleges have money from the students to pay for it
<Sneaky_Bastard> uh, no
<Sneaky_Bastard> :p
<Sneaky_Bastard> Colleges are about 50% subsidized
<Lokey> depends on the college
<theUg> In Russia colleges are free, for the most part. boo-hoo.
<Sneaky_Bastard> except for a very select few :p
<Dagmar> Sneaky_Bastard: Maybe state funded ones.
<orlok> hmm, theres a snowcrashed based online game with a fre clients
<orlok> free client
<orlok> but windows only it seems :-\
<lmm> what kind of game?
<Dagmar> Sneaky_Bastard: I know that VU is charging about $15k per semester for some **** and the Internet better be part of that
<Dagmar> orlok: Second Life, and there is a beta release of a Linux client for it now
<theUg> PeterFA, ha
<orlok> Dagmar: nope, Active Worlds
<orlok> but i've heard of Second Life as well
<martian67> Dagmar, what the hell is efnet/#rave ?
<Dagmar> orlok: OMG... ActiveWorlds is weeeak
<Dagmar> martian67: EFNet, #Rave
<orlok> i used to play There, apparently snowcrash was required reading for all employees
<Dagmar> Don't tell me you don't know what EFNet is
<martian67> i know
<Lokey> martian67: i cant believe you just asked that
<martian67> .,..
<martian67> i mean what is the channel about
<martian67> gah i KNOW what efnet is
<martian67> god :)
<Dagmar> orlok: The goal of Second Life is basically creation of the metaverse (and I mean the goal of SL, not something that users are supposed to do to "win")
<psi-jack> So there are no filesystems under Linux that can be fsck'd live in rw mode?
<Lokey> ok./.....phew
<ninjaz2> hehehe
<Lokey> PeterFA: how much xp ya got
<Lokey> ?
<orlok> martian67: doof doof doof doof i'd guess
<Lokey> cuz you aint the dm
<Dagmar> psi-jack: Most of them (with the exception of JFS I think) ***ume that the driver is the sole controller of the data. FS checkers get rather confused when you go moving things they're looking over
<Dagmar> JFS by contrast HAS to be checked live
<orlok> Dagmar: is second life free?
<PeterFA> Ownd :)
<psi-jack> Dagmar: Heh. Hmm, interesting about JFS.. JFS has only one problem, "that I know of", which is deleting large numbers of files tends to be very slow.
<Dagmar> orlok: MOreso than AW when I last looked. You can get a free account that doesn't expire that allows you to do everything but own land
<Lokey> lmfao : bring it PeterFA
<Lokey> if you can find me that is
<Dagmar> psi-jack: Yeah, but it does better than ext3 with deleting reasonable numbers of really huge files
<PeterFA> ...
<Lokey> and it comes up : where?
<psi-jack> Dagmar: Heh. I see.. Have you ever used JFS on a production workstation, or even server?
<Dagmar> orlok: I didn't much care for the whole "tourist" thing in AW which basically brands you as a second-cl*** citizen
<theUg> God damn, it takes this sonofbitch half an hour to format 100gig
<orlok> yeah, sounds cool
<lmm> psi-jack: aiui it does really aggressive write-behind, so isn't really suitable for machines without UPS
<PeterFA> Been saving this one for a special occasion.
<Dagmar> psi-jack: I've been testing it on my MythTV box
<orlok> so, how long till i can use my katana to thwack people? :)
<thechris> i'm looking for a good, non-gentoo, non-ubuntu, non-fedora, non-debian distro. these are distros that i've tried and either didn't work, or for gentoo will take too long to install
<Lokey> 3 hits per round
<Lokey> orlok:
<Dagmar> orlok: As soon as you figure out how to code the animations. :)
<PeterFA> thechris, try slack
<Lokey> thechris: try slack
<theUg> orlok Vakazishi. Katana is too big for such a crowded hole
<Dagmar> orlok: ...although I've already seen a couple of combat sims like that in SL. THey're just very crude at the moment
<martian67> thechris i'm looking for a good, non-gentoo, non-ubuntu, non-fedora, non-debian distro. these are distros that i've tried and either didn't work, or for gentoo will take too long to install << yay slackware
<psi-jack> lmm: Hmmm.. Interesting. So if the system gets shutdown improperly enough times, JFS could become toasted as well?
<PeterFA> thechris, LFS, DSL
<theUg> Besides katana is not a battle sword
<Dagmar> psi-jack: Any fs will get ruined under those conditions
<thechris> well, LFS would probably take some time
<PeanutHorst> martian67, tried LFS?
<martian67> PeanutHorst, hell no
<PeanutHorst> or CentOS, or Xandros?
<orlok> theUg: what, its a dinner sword?
<Dagmar> thechris: you basically eliminated everyone but Slackware in your question
<martian67> im not insane :)
<psi-jack> Dagmar: Actually, that's incorrect. :)
<lmm> psi-jack: no, the filesystem itself will be fine, but you may find that the file you created two minutes before the crash never actually got written
<PeterFA> thechris, why didn't those distros work?
<thechris> Does slack have pacakage management like rpm/deb/ebuild?
<Lokey> lfs makes gentoo look easy
<theUg> orlok presisely. Only worn in court.
<Lokey> yes thechris
<orlok> theUg: find me a refrence on the web that says its not used for hitting people
<Dagmar> psi-jack: How can that possibly be incorrect unless the filesytem in question contains only one byte
<psi-jack> lmm: Really? That's not too bad, then.
<PeterFA> thechris, how about RedHat.
<martian67> Dagmar, atomic operations?
<orlok> thats what the old japanese guy at kendo taught us :)
<thechris> PeterFA, gentoo -- too long to install now. debain -- no sata support. ubuntu -- unstable. FC -- installer fails
<PeanutHorst> PeterFA, not OldHat!
<psi-jack> Dagmar: Have you ever used the UFS filesystem on a BSD box before?
<theUg> orlok you can hit people with sporting equipment, innit? so it does not matter.
<lmm> psi-jack: that's the whole point of journalling, isn't it?
<PeterFA> thechris, Lindows.
<Dagmar> martian67: Atomic operations are still subject to dataloss from power failures
<ninjaz2> thechris: it's quite a state of affairs, isn't it?
<ninjaz2> seriously debian doesn't support sata?
<psi-jack> lmm: Hehe. Yeah. Actually. :)
<martian67> Dagmar, but perhaps not toasting the filesystem
<PeterFA> thechris, get debian, add sata support ot it yourself.
<Dagmar> psi-jack: I don't use BSD< but I am quite sure if you kill the power during writes enough times you can kill any fs
<Lokey> so PeterFA : have you found me yet w. your earth:google search?
<thechris> ninjaz2, stable doesn't. etch "should" but it still can't detect my drive
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