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<Lokey> PeanutHorst: why do you wanna be on the bleeding edge : typically it cuts you along w. the bleeding
<martian67> maybee?
<kokoko1> Dagmar, all your help is greatly appreciated
<Dagmar> kokoko1: Well, I thank you very much then
<martian67> at least hes greatful :)
<PeanutHorst> Lokey, i know
<martian67> unlike so many other ***holes :P
<PeanutHorst> i'm a pain freak :P
<kokoko1> martian67, hehe why are you so announyed from me ? :)
<Lokey> PeanutHorst: then try LFS :)
<PeanutHorst> LFS?
<lmm> Dagmar: no usb stuff plugged in. It seems to have started when I enabled support for my new parallel cdrom drive, any way that could be connected?
<martian67> kokoko1, meh
<martian67> you are alright
<kokoko1> martian67, you don't like arugements i thinks ? :)
<Lokey> linux from scratch
<PeanutHorst> nooooooooooo!
<martian67> :)
<Lokey> you said you were a pain freak PeanutHorst :P
<PeanutHorst> unless someone holds my hand
<PeanutHorst> i'm not THAT masochistic
<martian67> Lokey, i think the only thing linux should supply is a bootloader with an ***embler
<Dagmar> lmm: Almost certainly. I'm guessing you compiled that as a module, right? It'll be easy enough to test. Reboot without it plugged in, then plug it in, see if events/0 goes nuts, modprobe the support modules, check again and so forth
<martian67> you should be 1337 enough to figure everything else out
<Dagmar> lmm: Any diagnostic test you can go ahead and do faster than you can actually figure out if it's the _right_ test is one you should just go ahead and do. Heh
<lmm> Dagmar: not a module at the moment, but I can try it easily enough
<lmm> ok
<Lokey> martian67: i can concur w. your thoughts on that, tho what distro did you start w.?
<Dagmar> Slack 3 here
<martian67> Lokey, slack 10.0
<kokoko1> <-- slack 9.1 here
<martian67> i am noobehish
<martian67> >_<
<martian67> i do not deny that
<Lokey> same here martian67
<kokoko1> Dagmar, so you are still a slacker :)?
<Dagmar> Silly trolls had no lasting power at all
<Lokey> noatun just tweaked me the other nite : it plays raw vob files
<Dagmar> kokoko1: Yep
<martian67> all the cool people use slackwarew
<kokoko1> me too :)
<martian67> :)
<martian67> gentoo is for the followers >_>
<lmm> Lokey: it's just using xine behind the scenes, so it can play just about anything
<martian67> <_<
<kokoko1> hehe never look back after installing slackware, adn now i'm running slackware on our 10 servers :)
<martian67> ubuntu is for your grandma
<martian67> slackware is for me
<martian67> :)
<Lokey> debian is / can be fairly easy
<martian67> you cannot handle the full debian distribution :)
<martian67> 151 cds of pure 1337
<hatake_kakashi> PeanutHorst: I'm already on debian-related OS :) I have used debian on my friend's computer
<PeanutHorst> i started on Mandrake 9.0 (ugh)
<ninjaz2> haha
<Lokey> good old mandy
<PeanutHorst> yup
<PeanutHorst> mandy's always good for a shag
<PeanutHorst> ::P
<martian67> :/
<ninjaz2> 9.0 was one of the more broken ones wasn't it?
<theUg> Hey, Dagmar, if you put your trollin aside, I have a question for you.
<Lokey> good for very slow migrations from m$ to *nix
<PeanutHorst> ninjaz2, i used 9.1 after :)
<PeanutHorst> 9.1 was broken, not 9.0
<ninjaz2> oh, ok.
<martian67> Dagmar, i have heard debian generally outcl***es netbsd in the portabillity department
<martian67> apparently netbsd dosent even work on alot of their claimed platforms
<bleenshaker> oh jeez, they are all idiots^ /jokin :)
<Dagmar> martian67: I wouldn't know... I don't use netbsd and I really don't have the stomach to deal with dselect
<martian67> where as debian tests everything
<lmm> martian67: I don't think so, it only supports one type of arm doesn't it?
<lmm> oh, hmm, possibly
<ninjaz2> martian67: You'd have to try both on the given platform.
<martian67> lmm, is always uClinux
<Lokey> martian67: that also depends on the user installing onto whichever platform
<Lokey> ;)
<Dagmar> martian67: I've very little patience when dealing with strange hardware targets. I'll throw a few things at them, and if they don't work, if I can find a usable bootstrap I'll just cross-compile the entire thing into place
<martian67> Lokey, heh
<ninjaz2> I've had much better results with NetBSD on non-mainstreamp latforms
<n00rul> martian67: East or West Debian is the best
<kokoko1> heh
<lmm> talking of non-mainstream platforms, anyone know how to boot a 68k mac?
<Dagmar> martian67: I kept getting thrown at things like outdated IRIX boxes and ancient HP RISC boxes so I just got used to crafting the toolchains myself
<Lokey> ive seen a few good netbsd installs on odd things
<martian67> debian supports 86k
<martian67> hehe Dagmar
<Lokey> i'd like a HP Risc box
<ninjaz2> eep fear outdated irix boxes
<Dagmar> No, you just THINK you would
<lmm> martian67: yes, but the install procedure seems to ***ume you have a working macos install on it to use to boot the debian installer
<martian67> ive thought i wanted an SGI workstation
<Dagmar> I had a perl binary on IRIX that wouldn't even do a for varname (0..10) loop without *segfaulting*
<martian67> however i may have been halucenating
<ninjaz2> hehehe
<martian67> :)
<Dagmar> It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up to see that
<Lokey> i almost bought a Toadstool <something like that> SParc laptop for 30$ : needed a powercord
<theUg> Can you change windows partitions from linnux installation?
<lmm> Lokey: tadpole?
<Dagmar> I can't fathom what the hell makes SGI just completely skip QA on that stuff
<martian67> lmm, hmm
<ninjaz2> installing custom software on irix ****s, cuz of their 3 different binary formats
<Lokey> ty lmm
<Dagmar> s/makes/made/
<theUg> I think I did it before but I cannot remember
<martian67> Dagmar, the distrbuted version of perl,
<martian67> segfaulted THAT bad?
<ninjaz2> 32, n32, and 64...
<Dagmar> martian67: Yeah, it was the binary SGI shipped out in the box
<lmm> theUg: change the partition layout, the files on them or what?
<martian67> thats awful :(
<Lokey> now wtf would someone be doin in here w. NONameScript running Mirc on winblows?
<theUg> lmm layout
<Dagmar> martian67; Considering that was being used for the company's moneymaking product... *shudder*
<Lokey> that always bugs me
<martian67> Dagmar, yea.. outch'
<ninjaz2> Lokey: trying to escape, maybe? :-)
<Dagmar> martian67: I wound up having to literally write up data on ever self-test perl did before I could get the bosses to approve upgrading it
<theUg> lmmI had a question here before. Win Setup would not recognize Linux-created Win 32 partitions
<Dagmar> martian67: After I dropped that 65 page report on the CTO's desk they stopped questioning me so mmuch tho
<Lokey> ninjaz2: escape what tho? they're still using win
<martian67> lol Dagmar
<Dagmar> s/ever/every/
<ninjaz2> Lokey: maybe looking before leaping
<lmm> theUg: yeah, sure, just use parted or whatever, though I think changing partitions of a disk you're currently using something on is a Bad Idea
<Dagmar> lmm: He's STILL not got that sorted out?
<lmm> theUg: hmm, win2k setup recognised my linux cfdisk-created partition fine
<Dagmar> Wow. Anyone else would have been done installing windows and downloading porno by now
<Lokey> could be ninjaz2 : but isnt that what liveCD's are for ?
<martian67> theUg, what is your partion type number set to
<theUg> lmm I deleted those partitions, and Win XP cannot create additional partition on the free space (I have three linux partitions), but Win 98 can format it
<ninjaz2> Lokey: well, they help with it yeah.
<lmm> theUg: if win98 is willing to format it, it's probably not free space
<Dagmar> I'm glad I undid that ignore so I could laugh at that
<ninjaz2> it's like back in the old days, though, they used to tell us to lurk somewhere for a while to get a feel for what's going on.
<ninjaz2> not everyone wants to just run out and grab the first shiny thing they see.
<martian67> ninjaz2, but SOME do
<Dagmar> ninjaz2: Not everyone, but enough people that an entire industry thrives on it
<Lokey> hehe ninjaz2 : thats what i did basically
<theUg> martian67 originally, installing SuSE I did it like this: hda!=res, hda2=ext2, hda3=swap, hda4=extended, hda5 through hda8 = FAT 32
<Lokey> bought a linux mag and it came w. slack 9.0 disk w. it
<lmm> use fdisk, make a partition, set the type to win95 fat32 (LBA), iirc 0xAE but don't take my word for it, then boot xp installer cd
<ninjaz2> yeah, but we were takling about one guy who was using windows. ;)
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