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<Sneaky_Bastard> no, I'm nobody's sockpuppet
<Sneaky_Bastard> if that's what you thought
<theUg> Mewshi, that would be an interesting proposition.
<Dagmar> Mewshi: You can't really *do* that, unless you just want to buy spare parts to completely build a model someone else designed
<Dagmar> Mewshi: Laptops are almost entirely custom parts
<Mewshi> that's really stupid.
<Mewshi> so basically
<Sneaky_Bastard> no, it's really good business
<bleenshaker> Andrew ?
<theUg> That would be cool, if somebody came up with generic barebone laptop platform
<Mewshi> he's just buying parts for say, "company X Model 666" and putting them together?
<Sneaky_Bastard> most laptops don't even have interchangeable parts from model-to-model by the same manufacturer!!
<Sneaky_Bastard> isn't that swell ?
<Sneaky_Bastard> well, there is that USD $100 laptop project
<theUg> But that also would imply creating a standard a la ATX and such
<Sneaky_Bastard> with the hand-crank generators ?
<Sneaky_Bastard> :o
<theUg> Sneaky_Bastard what about that project?
<Sneaky_Bastard> (for remote regions in "3rd World" countries
<Mewshi> there should be a standard. it's past time for the laptop market to become more like the desktop market
<meriad_> that wasnt a bad movie at all
<Sneaky_Bastard> I suppose there will be interchangeable parts on those, since they are going to make millions of htem
<theUg> Who are “they”?
<Dagmar> Sneaky_Bastard: I've got lilo awake... Is the lamer packeting you?
<Sneaky_Bastard> MIT is involved in it
<jon_k> theUg, and what do they want from us?
<Sneaky_Bastard> can't you Google ?
<jon_k> Sneaky_Bastard, that 100 buck laptop thing is going to be for 3rd world countries
<Sneaky_Bastard> jon_k: yep
<jon_k> they're not making this to benefit americans
<Sneaky_Bastard> Dagmar: no idea
<theUg> Although what leaves me wondering, is that why ATX, Micro ATX and such do not specify position of the USB ports, PS/2 ports and so on.
<jon_k> you wont ever find a laptop for 100 bucks in the corporate america
<Sneaky_Bastard> there are very poor American's whom will benefit also, actually
<Dagmar> Sneaky_Bastard: Okay. I'd never have noticed if if I didn't have stuff set up to actually let me know
<meriad_> h4h4
<theUg> jon_k indeed, sir. Very, very disturbing.
<meriad_> h3h
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: who the hell is packeting your beautiful self kiddiechildpron ?
<Bossmc> ok, i have 2 disks on a pci ata card, one on each channel. they are in raid0 together. im adding a 3rd disk, no raid. do i move the 2 raided ones onto on cable, and give the 3rd disk its own, or just pop the 3rd disk with one of the current disks. the 3rd disk will be used about the same as the raid0 disks.
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: quit yappin
<Sneaky_Bastard> theUg: they specificy that the jacks all fit within a particular rectangle
<Sneaky_Bastard> and they all do
<CodyDH> Hello... Are there any tools to use for GPG security, in a gnome environment?
<Sneaky_Bastard> so you get a different EMI plug for that hole for each mobo.... that's ok
<jon_k> Bossmc, on SCSI it wont matter, just throw another one on there
<theUg> What is $100 anyway? In the past 3-4 years the value of the dollar plunged dramatically over 20-30%.
<Prot> question: I'm trying to do a regular backup of php/tpl files with *nix. I"m new to *nix. Is there a way to name the zip file with the current date? zip -R backup[cur date] /*.php /*.tpl
<Dagmar> CodyDH: Yeah, there's seahorse, which has some Nautilus extentions that let you right-click and encrypt/sign
<Bossmc> jon_k: it will be a long while(0) before i get scsi disks unfortunatly
<theUg> Sneaky_Bastard Some old proprietary MB's do not. I seen some funky Compaq propositions.
<CodyDH> Dagmar: OK... thank you!
<CodyDH> Dagmar: I thought it was just called GnuPG, but that was wrong.
<Dagmar> CodyDH: Nah, gnupg itself has no gui elements
<Sneaky_Bastard> hiya LeeLoo
<Sneaky_Bastard> :)
<Dagmar> Seahorse is about the only GUI interface for it that works
<theUg> Is there an easy way to adress certain user without typing his name?
<ignacio> Most IRC clients let you hit Tab for autocomplete.
<lilo> okay, so first, did somebody get packeted?
<jon_k> prot yeah i can do that
<jon_k> prot let me find the command
<Prot> jon_k, hows that?
<Sneaky_Bastard> so bleen, how long have you been hacking anywya ?
<Prot> thanks dude
<Dagmar> lilo: Yep. If I can remember what the heck the URL is for the user's webspace on campus here I'll show you some logs
<Sneaky_Bastard> and how can I become 1337 like you ?
<Dagmar> bleenshaker: I warned you to cut it out, man
<lilo> Dagmar: please don't send me logs, they won't tell me anything
<Dagmar> lilo: Okay.
<lilo> first of all, who got packeted?
<jon_k> zip -r backup`date +%B,%m-%d-%Y-%I-%M-%S`.php
<Dagmar> I did
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: please be nice
<Prot> sweet, thanks jon
<jon_k> basically date +<format>
<Dagmar> Am STILL getting packeted in fact
<jon_k> type man date to see what all those % thingies do
<jon_k> and you can customize it
<Dagmar> bleenshaker: You stop behaving like a packet monkey
<Sneaky_Bastard> oh darn, SuitSat stopped transmitting already
<Prot> yea, i'm used to date formatting, just didn't know how to do it in *nix
<Sneaky_Bastard> it's only been a few hours
<Prot> thanks again
<Sneaky_Bastard> well, a day or so
<CodyDH> Dagmar: What's a good idea for an expiration date?
<Mewshi> so, who wants to help me create a laptop hardware standard?
<jon_k> you could make a file with your uptime too if you want
<theUg> Oh, If I am to join the snitchery, Dagmar insulted the proud Russian nation numerous times.
<jon_k> touch `uptime`.txt
<Dagmar> CodyDH: I usually make mine a year away
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: go away
<jon_k> and it'd be UP SO AND SO DAYS BLAH .txt
<Dagmar> bleenshaker: Why would I want to do that?
<jon_k> it's handy
<CodyDH> Dagmar: Would 01/01/08 be too far away?
<Sneaky_Bastard> any amateur radio people here pick up SuitSat before it died ?
<theUg> Mewshi, start an open source project and wiki website or something.
<jon_k> Sneaky_Bastard, suite satelight?
<jon_k> Sneaky_Bastard, that was crazy
<Dagmar> CodyDH: Honestly, until you feel more comfortable with protecting your private keys against accidental loss and disclosure, I'd just make it 6 months
<theUg> suite satelight what the hell is that?
<jon_k> Mewshi, i'll help create the standard, just get the deal with Intel and Dell and call me
<ner0x> Is there anything other than nvu to make webpages on linux/
<CodyDH> Dagmar: OK... thank you again.
<ner0x> ?*
<jon_k> nerox any text editor will do
<ninjaz2> I ilke vim!
<jughead> mozilla makes a wysiwyg web page designer
<theUg> jon_k, nah on the real, those will jump on the bandwagon, when this thing moves far enough.
<nmatrix9> I swear sometimes I gotta wonder wtf is rpm suppose to be used for? I know it sure as hell ain't used to make installation/uninstallation of packages easier damn thing works maybe 4/10 times and then it all goes to hell
<Mewshi> ner0x - there's bluefish, quanta, etc
<ner0x> Mewshi: Which would you suggest?
<Mewshi> i use bluefish
<ninjaz2> nmatrix9: well it's only one part of the puzzle. ;)
<ninjaz2> the other is the repository
<theUg> ner0x EMACS I heard
<Mewshi> also, there's an extension to firefox that let's you edit the html and whatnot from within the browser
<ninjaz2> if you use random rpm's from un peu partout sur Internet, then you may well have problems.
<jon_k> ner0x, Mewshi , i've found all WYSIWYG editors on linux to major ****
<theUg> But I would ust type if I have no Dreamweaver to automate.
<jon_k> thats why i went to text editors eventually
<Mewshi> bluefish != WYSIWYG
<Mewshi> it's basically a really fancy text editor
<jon_k> so it's a text editor?
<jon_k> hm
<Mewshi> technically
<jon_k> kwrite and nano for me
<Mewshi> but it has wizards to make stuff faster
<jughead> I've never used vim
<ninjaz2> my artist friend digs quanta
<jon_k> i've used vi
<jon_k> it's powerful enough
<jon_k> no need for vim
<MrP> Hello
<ninjaz2> she is jealous cuz only really ancient versions are available on fink ;)
<Prot> is it possible to do 2 commands in one line? seperated by ; or something? for cron
<Prot> need to change dirs
<Bossmc> Prot: point cron to a sh script
<ninjaz2> Prot: yeah!
<MrP> I'm having problems with my network adapter. When I try to run dhclient, it keeps telling me "eth0: network is down". I've google'd but haven't found anything that helps in my case
<jon_k> just use ; in the cronjob
<jon_k> works for me
<Prot> thx
<Barton> I have to say, I'm having trouble finding a distro that clicks with me.
<Barton> I mean, I've tried Fedora, and Debian, and Ubuntu..
<ninjaz2> MrP: maybe the cable isn't plugged in.
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