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<Niacin> thanks gm145
<Niacin> eh 152 :)
<gm152> madwifi works fine. not sure if there's anything better.
<Niacin> heh well the old unix mantra is keep it simple stupid
<unholy-crap> Dagmar but I cam use apm -s
<Niacin> so if it aint broke.. Don't need fixing
<PurpleSmurf> it's called The Tao
<unholy-crap> ibam says no apm info
<unholy-crap> but i can still use apm -s
<unholy-crap> to put the thing to sleep/suspend
<unholy-crap> that started working after i disable acpi in grub
<gm152> madwifi works well with my 5212 chipset on one of my pci wireless nics.
<theUg> By the way, to all ye fiery fox lovers — some adware, installed itself as an extension for the firefox, without any user intervention. So what's up with open source? haha
<Dagmar> unholy-crap: I will repeat myself just this once... If you don't see data coming from `cat /proc/apm` then you didn't set up apm right, either.
<Dagmar> theUg: It's called "we don't surf when we're high"
<Dagmar> theUg: I know better than to believe what you're saying there
<jimmy-_--> hello. any ideas why i cannot login? i am making a bootable linux cd, and i cannot use /bin/login to get into my machine.
<jimmy-_--> i have all required libraries for /bin/login too
<jimmy-_--> i even installed the shadow package on my cd.
<Dagmar> theUg: If you'd like to point out where this is being done, I'm sure we can get it fixed before the end of next week
<theUg> Dagmar I dpon't even use Firefox, I'm an Opera boy. ;) Lemme find a link about it.
<jimmy-_--> still though, no luck.
<Dagmar> ...as well as bring the FTC down on the people who were exploiting it
<Dagmar> theUg: Oh, I see... It's something you read about on the web.
<Dagmar> Yessir, that's always fact.
<worthawholebean> where can I find a tutorial on zlib?
<theUg> Dagmar Dude, I had it in my Extensions dialog, and so I searched far and wide.
<Dagmar> worthawholebean: `info zlib` maybe
<jimmy-_--> what are the exact requirements for me to login?
<Dagmar> theUg: Again, we don't surf while that high
<Dagmar> jimmy-_--: An account
<worthawholebean> there're docs in /ur/include/zlib.h
<jimmy-_--> yes i have an account
<worthawholebean> but they aren't easy to understand
<Dagmar> Q: How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
<theUg> Dagmar, again, I don't normally use FF, and I don't do drugs. http://readlist.com/lists/mozilla.org/mozilla-general/2/14201.html
<Dagmar> A: My brother shrank his new sweater.
<Dagmar> theUg: Don't believe everything you read on the web. That was posted back in freaking October.
<Dagmar> theUg: The user was just a moron.
<gm152> Date:25 Oct 2005
<Excelsior> "Make sure kernel has TAP/TUN compiled as module or build-in" << I can't find TAP/TUN anywhere in my kernel, 2.6.14-gentoo-r5, can someone help me? Anyone used TAP/TUN before?
<theUg> Dagmar I don't give a ****. All I know that this **** was there, and that I didn't install it.
<Dagmar> theUg: You did.
<gm152> (which Dagmar has already addressed).
<Dagmar> theUg: There's all kinds of software that that new.net **** was shipping with
<theUg> Dagmar all I had before is two default extensions DOM inspector and whatever is the other.
<Dagmar> Why you deduce that this MUST have come in through Mozilla itself I have no idea
<Dagmar> I say Notepad.exe did it and I challenge you to disprove it
<theUg> Dagmar I didn't install any software in a month, plus all that **** happened during my virus infestation, when adware and other parasites installed itself
<Dagmar> If you'd read the rest of the thread that idiot user posted in, you'd see all kinds of people pointing out how incorrect he was
<Dagmar> theUg: OKay. This is the last thing I'm going to say about it, because anything else I might have to say on the matter will be gratuituously abusice...
<theUg> Dagmar And I presume, that these said parasites installed that ****, but I thought FF was secure and all that
<Dagmar> There's PLENTY of viruses out there that primarily exist for the sole purpose of installing adware/spyware so that some ***hat in russia can get affiliate credit
<FieldySnuts> i've seen notepad.exe get nailed and turn into a trojan.
<FieldySnuts> of all the things.
<Dagmar> Now, WHY, SPECIFICALLY, do you think that Firefox did that, rather than the virus?
<theUg> Dagmar, by the way, I'm a Russian ***hat meself. ;)
<FieldySnuts> the damn thing still worked as notepad too, heh.
<Dagmar> I mean, hell, if you want to see a machine get infected fast, just trot out IE and go visit crackz.am (or maybe it was cracks.am)
<theUg> Dagmar, I DO NOT think, that FF did it, NOR DID I SAY so. However, apparently it is FF security flaw.
<Dagmar> Not only will their site attempt to exploit IE, most of the crap they let people download contains a stub installer that will quickly install about 25-40 adware/spyware apps
<Dagmar> theUg: Okay, so why do you think it's a security flaw in FF?
<theUg> Dagmar And I said before why infestation happened -- I was lazy to steal some firewall software, and relied on Win Firewall for a month or two.
<Dagmar> "<theUg> By the way, to all ye fiery fox lovers some adware, installed itself as an extension for the firefox, without any user intervention. So what's up with open source? haha"
<Dagmar> So what does this have to do with Firefox OR open source?
<theUg> Dagmar, because, extension is essentially an app. FF touts itself as a secure browser. However it lets an foreign app install onto itself without explicit user interaction.
<Dagmar> YOU did impossibly stupid things with your computer, and have apparently chosen to blame Firefox for it
<FieldySnuts> probably trolling. and you got trolled, possibly. i'd just ignore him (/ignore)
<Dagmar> Holy **** man
<Dagmar> You're a complete moron
<FieldySnuts> yep. he is. ignored.
<jughead> heheheh
<Dagmar> Since when can ANY app prevent the operating system from deleting it's files or generally screwing it up
<Cyde> Can anyone tell me what "if [ -x /usr/bin/updatedb ]" means in a shell script? What's -x?
<Dagmar> I'm putting your ignorant *** on the ignore list
<Dagmar> I suggest you EAT LESS COMMUNISM
<ignacio> man test
<theUg> Dagmar, it would help if you read the first part of that paragraph
<gm152> Cyde: if the file exists and is executable.
<FieldySnuts> heh..
<Cyde> gm152: Thanks
<Dagmar> theUg: the first part of WHICH paragraph?
<Dagmar> The part where you blame Firefox for something it let YOU do to it?
<Cyde> gm152: So what would "if [ -f /etc/updatedb.conf ]" do? Is that if the file exists and is writeable?
<theUg> <heUg>jon_k, hell all the better than XP. Three days ago I came from work, booted me laptop, and that sonofabitch started installing crap right and left all of a sudden. Virus attack, you see. I lived happily behind the firewall, blocking IE altogether, but my subscription had expired about a month ago, and I was too lazy to steal some more sotware.
<gm152> i believe if it just exists. man bash knows.
<Dagmar> Cyde: Basically -f tests to see if it's a plain file and that's it
<Cyde> Dagmar: As opposed to, what, a device interface?
<theUg> Dagmar, once again, you are putting words in my mouth. I DID NOT blame FF for it.
<Dagmar> I think the semantic might exclude being true if filename is a symlinnk to somewhere else, but I've never bothered to test it
<gm152> -f if the file exists and is a regular file.
<Dagmar> "<theUg> By the way, to all ye fiery fox lovers some adware, installed itself as an extension for the firefox, without any user intervention. So what's up with open source? haha"
<theUg> Dagmar, that is observation, don't you think?
<bleenshaker> ***emble dagmar
<root________> Which Distro do I want to use ?
<Dagmar> ...and then you cited a URL apparently in an effort to clarify your point, and the URL was an idiot claiming FF had been trojaned
<Dagmar> theUg: Yeah, you and Clinton not having ***ual relations.
<Dagmar> theUg: Just shut the **** up if you're going to smoke that much crack
<theUg> I never stated, that because of FF I had a virus attack. I said on the contrary, that during virus attack, that more likely went through Win FW, FF got infested as well.
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: poop.
<jon_k> i agree firefox ****s pretty bad these days
<Dagmar> theUg: So what does Firefox have to do with your virus attack
<jon_k> i use opera
<gm152> man bash <enter> /writable <enter>
<jon_k> but firefox is better than IE
<jughead> I'm a FF user
<theUg> jon_k Opera as well here. ;)
<jon_k> actually
<jon_k> I would use opera, if i wasn't addicted to FF extensions
<jon_k> I only use opera when FF acts up
<jughead> but I have Opera installed on my Windows partition
<jon_k> heh
<Dagmar> theUg: So what does Firefox have to do with your virus attack
<theUg> Dagmar, do I have to spell it out again? FF was not the cause of a virus attack. However it is important that it has been a victim.
<Dagmar> How is it important?
<jon_k> theUg, are you a linux user and supporter?
<ignacio> It's important in the same way that Word was the vector for the Concept virus.
<jon_k> or a windows person who came in here?
<Dagmar> Since when is it the responsibility of any application to protect itself from the operating system?
<root________> I'm about to set up a new web server, I have experience with Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, FC4 and a few other distrobutions in both serever and workstation environments, Which distro should I use on my new server ? (either of the ones I've already tried OR a new one)
<jon_k> root________, well first thing i'd do is not use irc while in root ;]
<jughead> stick to what you know best
<root________> jon_k, I'm not, I'm in *shudders* windows
<Dagmar> ignacio: It's not even that related
<ignacio> RHEL or CentOS would be my recommendation, since you have Fedora experience.
<theUg> jon_k I use linux, but not exclusevely. I seem to move on OO.org exclusively though.
<jon_k> root________, but personally i'd use debian, but this is a personal opinion. there isn't a "perfect server linux"
<theUg> Dagmar Since when is it the responsibility of any application to protect itself from the operating system?
<Dagmar> My thinking is that he's just another idiot who installed Kazaa and didn't bother to notice that it installs a crapton of adware
<root________> jon_k, why would you chose debian ?
<jon_k> root________, because of the package management system, and the stability of their distros
<Dagmar> theUg: Your complaint is no different than claiming windows should prevent you from using a boot disk to erase the hard drive
<theUg> Well, you see, FF is being marketed as a secure answer to IE.
<Dagmar> theUg: You sir, are a moron. Please stop using Linux immediately. We don't want you.
<jughead> rwnt
<Dagmar> Look, dumb***.
<jon_k> root________, but what I'd use is a distro that _YOU_ feel might be the best according to your personal expierience
<root________> jon_k, well, I can say that in my experience, debian was dated and unstable when I last tried it.. but it was definately secure
<Dagmar> It's not FF's responsibility to keep you from doing stupid things to your computer.
<Dagmar> That it didn't stop you from doing stupid things with your computer that break it doesn't make it "insecure"
<Dagmar> It just makes you an idiot.
<theUg> Dagmar, well, sir, I do not give flying oriental ****, who you want and don’t want. I have my own reasons to use linux.
<bleenshaker> Dagmar: you gay kiddy ****.. go to bed
<jon_k> root________, but if you want to really follow the fad then i'd install Redhat or CentOS, since it's what everyone else does
<nima> is there any way to change the defualt gtk theme?
<Dagmar> If you want to use something that keeps you from doing stupid things with your computer, RUN IT UNDER LINUX AS A NORMAL USER, DUMB***
<jughead> how secure is a linux install? I haven't done much security wise since I installed Mepis
<jon_k> root________, what do you plan on running on this server?
<Excelsior> .. Can anyone find "TUN/TAP" in Networking Support> Networking Options?
<Dagmar> Christ.
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