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<0> :(
<1> it kills x after about a few mins
<1> in an attempt to save ram
<2> heh
<1> after about 2-3 days of it, it managed to get back on the web
<2> SAVE MEMORY!!! KILL RANDOM PROCESSES!!!
<1> yep
<1> redhat9 with 64mb ram
<3> Why doesn't Autodesk make Autocad for Linux?
<1> running apache mysql and 20 other things
<0> clever: hmm, well i dont see X die
<4> hey guys
<0> just freezes
<1> ctrl_alt_f1
<0> keyboard and mouse dont respond period
<1> also when i have the problem



<0> telnet and ssh dont let me log on
<1> i can hear the swap file being thrashed
<0> since i can connect but the server doesnt respond
<1> networks half works
<0> sometimes i can hear heavy disk io but other times there is none
<1> the kernel can accept but the userspace cant respond
<5> is it ok to setup a dhcp configured modem router to ***ign it as static on client machines.
<1> if you can switch to tty1(ctrl+alt+f1) then you can view the kernel errors
<4> i have a squid problem.. I am trying to post to the cybercash API, and squid is blocking it.. anyone know why? I have been reading all through the access controls in the manual but havent found anything that works
<1> alt+f7 to get back to x
<0> clever: doesnt work for me
<6> iamlost, i just had a computer with a similar issue... would lock up, sometimes shut down... turned out to be a combination of oss and a wrong sound card driver. got right driver, switched to alsa... bingo
<0> clever: heck pressing caps locks doesnt work
<1> yeah
<0> clever: ctrl-alt-delete doesnt work eitehr
<0> i have to hold down the power button to do a hard reset
<1> i normaly use the reset button after seeing the out of ram msgs
<0> yet the box is pingable?!!
<1> yeah thats the odd thing
<1> the kernel is fine
<1> the userspace is dead
<7> for some reason logwatch never emails me. I created a cron job to have it email me everyday at 0 0 * * * but that doesnt work either. It only works if i run it from the command line. my command from the cron and that i run on the CLI is this: /usr/sbin/logwatch --detail high --range yesterday --mailto me@my.host.com any ideas?
<8> My brain hurts.
<9> iamlost: which distro you talking about that you need to hard-reboot?
<10> Mine to
<0> kaotic: um i dunno
<1> iamlost, if i left the pc alone for 3 days it does recover
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: you'll drink another drink w. me wont ya :P
<0> its more of a patchwork than a single distro at this point
<0> clever: heh
<10> Lokey=kaotic?
<1> i had to do that once when i wasnt nearby to reset it
<0> what i dont get
<1> i was able to telnet in after 3 days and run a shutdown -r
<0> is why does running out of ram cause it to lock up
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: could be a schizo thing ; but it could just be that i know you like to drink ;)
<0> when it has over a gig in free swap
<1> its trying to defrag the ram and swap space i think
<9> iamlost: how much initial ram
<0> maybe i need to set /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to 100 (its at 60 now)
<10> kaotic, Well ya, but i noticed you both have the same mask
<1> and its too busy doing all that to respond in something other then kernel
<10> Where ya been ***hat!
<0> kaotic: 390M, but like 2.5M free right before the box locks up
<1> i have 64mb total on my pc that does it
<9> iamlost: which WM
<0> katfvwm2
<0> erm
<9> 390 of actual mb ram? w. 1gig of swap?
<10> kaotic, So whatcha been drinking?
<0> kaotic: fvwm2
<0> 2443M swap total
<0> and 390M of actual ram
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: today ; its been sparks ; they were outta steele's
<9> on fvwm2?
<10> kaotic, I haven't seen ya in like a month, besides "Lokey" where ya been, AA? :=P
<9> and locking up ; sounds like its not the wm's fault ; sounds like something else iamlost
<0> kaotic: i agree
<0> its def not the wm
<7> for some reason logwatch never emails me. I created a cron job to have it email me everyday at 0 0 * * * but that doesnt work either. It only works if i run it from the command line. my command from the cron and that i run on the CLI is this: /usr/sbin/logwatch --detail high --range yesterday --mailto me@my.host.com any ideas?
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: nope ; was doing some m*** reconstruction on my slackbox



<1> hit ctrl+alt+f1
<10> Ahh!
<1> then go and do something for an hour
<10> So you are Lokey
<1> it will react after a while
<0> clever: u mean eventually it'll see the keypress and switch to a VT?
<0> ur sure abt this?
<10> I was talking to you like 2 weeks ago when you were **** faced and couldnt get slack going
<1> i was getting loging prompts on my telnet of the frozen pc
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: they are basically the 'same' if you look at it in terms of what they represent ;)
<1> 2 hours after i made the connection
<9> GiGaHeRtZ: was a bad dvd drive keepin me outta slack
<10> kaotic, /me=Chodder
<1> at which point the login timed out and was kicked
<10> ;)
<1> iamlost, it should work at showing the kernel errors
<9> clever: sounds like you need a router or some really good iptable setups
<1> it probly wont be fast enough to get into a root act
<1> i had telnet closed at my router
<1> but reopened it to try and get into the pc while it was frozen
<9> clever ; on a lan?
<1> the lan was in my house
<1> and the router linked it with the web
<11> kaotic, I actually thought you got klined
<11> heh
<1> i was on another lan 2 days away
<1> with another router
<9> shouldnt need to open up telnet from the router
<1> it was telnet in port fowarding
<1> to get into the linux
<0> hmm
<0> well, i have the swap
<0> is there a way to avoid the OOM ???
<9> clever ; what flavor to what flavor?
<1> ?
<1> i was in cleveland with a xp system trying to telnet into a frozen redhat9 in canada
<9> Chodder: nope....im not that much of an arse to get klined quite yet
<1> which was frozen with the same problem iamlost seems to have
<11> kaotic, Well you know me ;)
<11> GiGaHuRtZ!
<0> basically is there a way to make it use more swap
<0> before it runs out of ram and locks up
<0> ???
<1> my laptop has ram allways full
<12> i'm using gnome and the login process failed, i know why, so i crtl+alt+f1 to get a prompt, how do i kill everything that's happening at the original screen so that i can try logging in again after i've fixed the problem?
<1> and swap is at 50% atm
<9> clever ; i can say that's RH for ya ; but that dont help much ; RH n me is like bees on an aids victim ; avoid at all costs on my end
<1> lol
<1> i dont have rh on the laptop
<1> its ubuntu on the laptop
<9> xp to rh is not a good combo ; imho
<9> rh to xp works ; kinda
<1> rh was on the 133mhz
<1> crap bad sectotrs are freezing the os
<9> ubuntu ; another bee's nest on my arse
<1> ubuntu is tricky to use
<1> alot of lib's missing
<1> half the binarys i get dont work
<9> ubuntu can really fsck your system
<11> what in the ****! self parking cars?!
<11> http://slashdot.org/articles/06/04/05/0222209.shtml
<1> and they ran fine on rh
<9> which is why im a slacker myself
<13> Chodder: That's kind of old news
<11> Dagmar, but they are in the US now
<11> not just japan
<1> and i need to get arround to a fsck
<14> hehe, my ubuntu laptop has 3mb of free ram(has 256MB) and 332/747MB swap is free
<13> clever: If you're installing binaries built on Redhat into your Ubuntu box, that's _probably your problem_
<9> self parking cars is for idiots who love automatics as well
<1> the binarys where from a website
<1> and they worked fine on the rh
<13> Chodder: It's not like they can't be put on a boat and shipped here, dude


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