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<0> who will pull the plug?
<1> and not until then.
<2> I am getting this error when trying to mount an iso mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
<3> at 3:59 PM UTC
<4> redduck666, well as far as learning curves go, computers/linux take time to learn witch soem people would rather p*** over.
<2> how do i create a loop device?
<1> when there's not enough developers who want to maintain it.
<0> vbhanu mknod
<0> or dev/MAKEDEV
<0> spiderworm that's a fun-da-mental date
<5> lowkey: and what makes you think that there will ALWAYS be enaugh devs for gnu projects?
<1> redduck666: cause its GNU.
<4> well, the generation that has done most of the work on linux will die off, what then?
<5> Uriel_Darling: that kind of people shouldn`t be allowed to use computers ;-)
<5> lowkey: so?
<0> the future fears you
<1> redduck666: its doing too many necessary things. and creating a second free tree that can supercede it is damn near impossible.
<1> even the bsds run the gcc compilers by default.
<6> anyone know how I can use grep, but ignore cr/lf/crlf ?
<5> lowkey: if half of what i`ve heard about hurd kis true: linux kernel devs are doing one DAMN neccessary thing too
<4> ***umeing fluxbox lives that long, or other window managers.. I wonder what they'll be like in 10+ years
<1> redduck666: yeah but thats kernel.
<5> lowkey: and gnu`s most important tools are just a toolchain...
<1> redduck666: the GNU user space can run on the fbsd, nbsd, hurd, or the linux kernel.
<1> redduck666: and on debian the crosshurd tool makes converting from one to the other pretty easy.
<0> Uriel_Darling are you serious?
<0> Uriel_Darling why are you afraid of the unknown?
<5> lowkey: last time i checked the policy of one of the bsds was to NEVER accept gpl code in their kernel
<1> redduck666: in their kernel yes.
<1> redduck666: but they still use the GNU compilers by default.
<7> lowkey: the GNU tools even work on w1nd0ws
<4> afraid? What if it goes all in the wrong direction
<1> leafw: they work on almost all oses.
<7> indeed
<0> Uriel_Darling how do you know it's the wrong direction?
<1> leafw: solaris only becomes tolerable after you install them.
<8> redduck666: gcc != kernel
<4> :-p
<8> Uriel_Darling: a "minority report" type thing would be cool
<7> lowkey: not only solaris!
<8> i do agree that GNU has more of a chance of not dieing
<8> but neither is immune from the march of time
<5> lowkey: so you are basically saying that gnu won`t die couse it runs on several kernels
<1> sure it is. it has become a religion.
<4> Martian67, that would be awesome
<8> GNU runs on virtually every operating system in existance
<4> and emacs
<4> don't forget emacs!
<4> lol
<8> :P
<1> well emacs makes a good os but its just too much as an editor.
<5> Martian67: but it was only with linux that it beoe widelly accepted
<4> :Emacs bible"
<8> redduck666: not really
<7> Martian67: but there is the "immunity" of the winner-take-all: how hard it is to overthrow M$ now? Well, as hard as it is to overthrow the GNU tools. They won in the critial, exponential growth phase.
<8> many commerical UNIXes use the GNU toolchain
<1> shoot xemacs even includes an X window manager if you want to run it.
<9> I heard RMS says that GNU developers wasted their time by porting tools to other OSs and would be better if they focused in GNU OS
<1> nope.
<8> RMS is not GNU
<1> its best when developers do what they want to do.
<8> and a i doubt he would say that
<1> me too.
<0> Uriel_Darling are you serious?
<9> It's in the emacs GNU history section .. !
<8> leafw: it dosent make it totally immune
<4> serious about?....
<8> if it was discovered that rms put a secret rootkit in all GNU tools
<0> Uriel_Darling being afraid of future/unknown
<7> Martian67: nothing is immortal.
<8> GNU tools would be gone pretty fast :)
<9> lol
<1> it would still be perfect. cause RMS is the prophet and he would have had a divine reason for doing so.
<8> :
<8> :P
<1> we would just have to trust in his wisdom.
<4> google is immortal
<7> Martian67: they would be patched, not gone. Or, the clones would emulate the user mode in any case.
<8> leafw: they would still not be under gnu control anymore
<4> even if for some reason google was to die... the name will go on through my children, and thier children
<8> and therefor NOT really gnu
<8> lowkey: i donmt think divine prophets are allowed to smell so bad :)
<7> they would not be under FSF, but GNU is some sort of philosophy, belongs to noone.
<8> [13:47] <4> even if for some reason google was to die... the name will go on through my children, and thier children << not really
<8> google is a commoidity
<8> you dont hear much about gold companies from 100 years ago
<10> commodity = available from many sources
<8> same difference
<1> google is an evil corporation.
<10> google only availabe from google
<4> google evil?
<2> hid3, i get the following error whenever i start kuickshow, kuickshow: error while loading shared libraries: libungif.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<4> lol
<7> lowkey: google is an ensemble of people, some may be evil, some may be not.
<8> rather i ment the serivices google offers
<2> hid3, sorry
<10> K
<8> bronze: thank you for the clarification
<2> i get the following error whenever i start kuickshow, kuickshow: error while loading shared libraries: libungif.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<1> corporations tend to bring out the evil.
<1> for example. its better to help china oppress its people than to forgo on the market.
<4> google is only like .0003 evil
<0> hey, in court opinions who's familar with "not for publication" stamped on court rulings?
<5> vbhanu: install that thingy?
<4> compared to other companies
<0> when you find one online, save to disk and post online!!!
<8> google is not some divinem, untopplable god given gift that will be a ledgend of mankind for decades to come
<2> redduck666, i am not able to fingure out the package that gives the said file
<10> lowkey: corporations tend to bring out profits (but head in same direction as evil.. :0 )
<8> like some people seem to belive
<1> bronze: easier to make just a little more by being just a little more evil every year.
<10> da.
<8> googles services are a commoity, google became popular in a very short timeframe, and could be replaced in a very short timeframe
<4> what file vbhanu?
<10> TANSTAFL
<8> its as simple as that
<4> (page up key is so far away..)
<1> Martian67: yep. googles core product is its advertising.
<5> vbhanu: freshmeat is your friend
<1> Martian67: and when someone figures out how to do it better, then they're dead.
<10> and gogole's service is search indexing
<8> lowkey: i just dislike the google-cult
<2> redduck666, hmm
<4> google = gmail
<4> don't forget that ^_^
<8> like some people seriously belive that google is attempting to bring 50mbit pipes to everyone in america
<8> like wtf?!
<1> lol.
<10> ja, and google earth etc..
<2> redduck666, i googled and gentoo ppl say that libgif and libungif are almost the same but then libgif is also not there in the tree
<1> no. thats the local companies.
<2> Uriel_Darling, libungif.so.4
<7> lowkey: you forget that when someone learns how to do it better, he/she would have been hired by google first. That is the M$ strategy, for one.
<1> isnt verizon up to 15mbps in some areas?
<1> leafw: maybe. maybe they have the guts to go it on their own.
<7> guts=funding
<5> vbhanu: dude, it took me 10 seconds (if my internet wouldn`t **** it would be even less) to find that thing @ freshmeat
<1> yep.
<8> leafw: google isnt the only source of funding in the world
<4> vbhanu, what flavor you on?
<1> if you had a google-killing idea. MS would pay more for it than Google.
<1> or maybe Yahoo.
<7> or apple
<5> vbhanu: it is not in portage, so what? you are too much of a ***** to compile it by hand?
<1> time to have an auction.
<8> i repeat, google and ms are not the only sources of funding in the world
<8> its not like its a one or the other option
<1> no. its just the fastest route to that big m-f'in check.
<8> oversimplification of concepts promotes the status quo
<2> redduck666, calm down gentoo has removed it form the tree that means some other package must give the same thing...i am trying to find that file
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