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<0> Ticho, still in a way its ammusing
<1> let's have an ignorefest
<1> Geren: your momma
<1> (the default, generic, non-descript insult)
<0> Geren, the power of christ compels you.
<1> hm, maybe he communicates in morse
<1> Geren: i command you to part this channel now!
<2> Hmm... must be another trolling moron I still have on ignore
<1> looks like he decided at l***t
<0> i hope updating my distro will fix my little problem...
<3> I used wipe to wipe my new hard drive, master boot record to. When I try and access it now with fdisk it says it does not exist. What would I need to do to access it now ?
<2> Put a partition on it
<2> i.e., fdisk /dev/hda
<3> It says that it doesn't exist
<2> Reboot.
<3> I did
<2> Then you need to complain to the people that manage your distribution that they've broken their udev
<3> I thought nothing of it at the time, It even says it's a bad idea in the wipe manual to remove the MBR but I had to test out why
<2> It doesn't matter.
<3> not running udev
<2> You can accomplish the same thing with `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1024`
<2> zethreth: Which kernel are you using?
<3> 2.4.31
<3> no actuallly it was with my 2.4.30
<2> So you have the /dev/hdwhatever device file then?
<3> I have hdb2 and up to 20
<2> zethreth: did you rm /dev/hdb and /dev/hdb1 or something?
<4> how do i turn on xclipboard?
<4> it says another clipboard daemon is running
<5> how do i reload a module
<5> sorry, simple question
<3> nope, just did "wipe /dev/hdb"
<4> anyone know how to change what clipboard daemon i use?
<4> whats the default gnome clipboard daemon?
<4> its getting in the way of xclipboard
<3> so I just need to create those then.
<3> with mknod
<4> i cant work xclipboard
<4> has anyone used xclipboard?
<4> i needa use xclipboard
<2> zethreth: I'd suggest you not bother using wipe again
<4> can any1 help?
<2> zethreth: It's main thing is just hype
<3> what about DBAN
<6> dagmar dont you just love it when you are getting the last part of the last file, and the server goes down?
<6> because i know i do!
<7> anyone heree have fedora
<5> yes Sin_Eastwood
<5> lol
<2> zethreth: Dude, badblocks can actually be told to do just as thorough a wipe as any of those
<7> chafe : do you want bootsplash
<2> zethreth: The only thing DBAN brings is that it can boot by itself
<2> I like how the wipe page mentions Gutmann's paper but doesn't actually appear to mean they've read it
<7> chafe : i have fedora bootsplash packages on my www server
<5> o rly
<7> and a howto
<7> www.stylish.shawbiz.ca
<7> chafe : its more themeable then rhgb
<3> Dagmar: what would you say is a good way to securely wipe a drive. Aside from encrypting the file system.
<2> zethreth: badblocks -w -s -p 2 /dev/whatever
<2> zethreth: ...which is twice the work the DoD requires for deletion/overwrite of data
<8> where are most of you guys located
<9> folks does the debugger really must have a file compiled with -g as argument in order to work?
<7> Canada
<3> I have hda as 3 and number 0 followed by hda2 with 3 and bumber 2, so I have hdb2 as 3 and number 66, so I created hdb as 3 and number 64, I hope this works.
<2> Frederick: In a very unscientific way, yes
<10> go away lilo man
<2> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 64 Jun 9 2002 /dev/hdb
<9> Dagmar, so if I don't add this flag I may be unable to use it?
<2> I want him to post a link to details of how to exploit the bug
<2> It's time for some damn windows users to go
<9> Dagmar, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3155054.html#3155054 can you check it for me briefly please?
<2> Frederick: If you don't know what you're doing, no amount og flags are going to help you.
<10> heh heh
<2> I am *not* spoon-feeding anyone freaking gcc flags.
<2> Life's too short.
<10> lol
<9> Dagmar, it is a simple question answer is boolean
<10> he doesn't take a hint very well
<2> Frederick: "Am I on fire?" is also a simple question, which happens to be just as dumb.
<8> i have a kid coming soon .. i have to decide if we should circumsize him or not hmmmmm
<9> Dagmar, debbuging is twice as harder than programming :/
<2> You should either KNOW, or there's nothing useful you're going to be capable of doing about it.
<2> Obviously *someone* thought it was important enough to tell you to do it
<2> How about you follow their instructions rather than try to drag more people down with your stubborn refusal to read the info files on gcc, eh?
<10> lafffff
<9> Dagmar, the problem is that ddd is reporting that error when I don't use it
<2> Frederick: I have *no* sympathy for people who try to program, but refuse to read documentation for the tools they use.
<10> ya I just ran around looking for Delphi help docs, it's only fair you have to do something on your own darnit
<9> Dagmar, ive googled for my error with no luck
<11> Delphi. :P
<12> Frederick: what do you want man. didn't he already tell you yes to begin with?
<2> Well, at least I can now confirm that the exploit lilo mentioned just shuts people right down. *blam* connection reset by peer
<9> dartman, thanks a lot
<12> Dagmar: what's this? ircd or whatever? xchat? what?
<2> Codename_V: http://www.hm2k.org/news/1141413208.html
<12> ah. odd.
<13> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
<2> oh man
<2> LOL
<13> lol
<13> pwned
<14> what the?
<2> Yeah, that string freaks out a few netgear models trying to use the masq_irc_dcc module
<2> They just blow right up
<12> Dagmar: dunno if you shoulda pasted that. you could have just paraphrased. or just told me not xchat and I woulda been satisfied. =)
<2> Dude, I got the link from the blog article lilo freaking wall'd
<12> ah. hmm. I missed that then.
<2> I wanted to see what it was specifically so I could know whether or not it was something I needed to worry about
<12> oops. this darunimator jerk joined after that anyhow. my mistake.
<2> ...and what's involved in making the problem go away. Looks like people with affected equipment will need a firmware upgrade, but beyond that, no big deal
<15> I saw someone come into ##c last night, and combine the two. use the "startkeyetc" as his string in DCC SEND ;)
<15> takes them both out in one fell swoop.
<2> infi: Ooo! That's nice
<2> I'm alertin' my people on other networks
<15> now just combine them with the old BitchX one of /mode #channel +b %C=%n, and you can take out half of IRC :)
<3> Danger: How would I set the file type to brw-rw---- instead of crw-rw----
<2> zethreth: IT's a block device, not a character device
<12> guess it would be kinda fun to go do something like that on efnet. #hackers or whatever the heck channel all the leet guys hang out on.
<2> #Rave only had one vulnerable user
<15> Codename_V: anyone worth half their salt would have already fixed the issue.
<12> infi: leet as in script kiddies Im meaning though.
<15> aha
<3> ok the b argument
<3> thx
<2> infi: Thankfully Netgear routers have a thing in 'em to let you tell it to just upgrade to the latest firmware over the internet
<15> yup
<2> ...although I'm not sure if the latest firmware still has teh bug. Affected users might be a little bit naked-feeling for the next day or so
<12> I'll stick with ipcop or whatever. much nicer.
<11> what if the bug gets hit while upgradeing?
<3> ya baby
<3> it worked
<15> I've been doing firmware updates on my NAS (just some consumer-grade home model) for about 6 months now, until I decided to open one up the other day and examine it.
<15> it turns out it was a SHAR file, containing a shell script and a tarball to extract, with a few commands to run.
<15> rewrote my own shell script to add a telnet daemon and clear the root p***word, and TADA!
<15> heh
<15> nice "firmware"
<16> what's a "shar" file?
<17> Shell archive.
<2> Shell archive
<17> Run it to extract.
<16> what I figured... thanks... ah
<2> ignacio: That time thing *mostly* works, but at random times WindowsXp likes to display the clock as if we were *in* GMT zones
<2> ...which is damn funny
<18> ahh drag racing tomorrow
<2> It seems pretty random as to when it decides to jump the clock
<3> I'm with Debian but I'm tempted to build a new Slack system with my knowledge of "checkinstall"
<19> Uh
<19> I've been trying to get direct rendering working
<2> Confirmed... The bug affects Linksys WRT54g with stock firmware as well
<19> so I've compiled agpgart as a module, and have intel-agp and agpgart to load
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