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<0> TheDarkOne: ages ago
<1> TheDarkOne: eh?
<2> lol, shows how long it's been since i took an hd apart
<0> TheDarkOne: around 4G IIRC
<3> Hi guys, if I recompile the kernel (make menuconfig & make & make install) to remove alsa, is it normal that my old sound modules (Intel HD) didn't get deleted?
<0> yes
<0> only new modules get copied over
<3> okay, should I just delete them?
<3> they got loaded
<3> and are now showing up in lsmod
<0> if you unconfigure old ones, and recompile/install, then it won't delete
<2> speedevil: for what reasons? multiple platters would make more sense, or is there something i don't know
<2> lol
<3> well... by unconfiguring alsa I can't choose sound modules anymore
<0> TheDarkOne: cheapness
<2> ah ok
<0> TheDarkOne: One set of heads, one disk, less ***embly, less power use, ...
<2> true
<2> so 500GB is on 1 platter?
<0> probably
<0> I know 120s have been for a long time
<2> what's the largest hd these days?
<4> what would you use to generate a patch file if you want to patch it with patch -p1?
<0> You can find this sort of information by going to the makers website, and downloading the tech datasheets for the drive
<2> true
<0> TheDarkOne: 750 is upcoming
<0> redduck676: man diff
<4> speedevil: that is what i`ve been using, and so far i come up with -Naru, but patch -p[014] still asks me what file it should patch.
<2> ah ok
<2> 500GB from maxtor has 4 platters
<5> speedevil, 750 is already here, heh
<6> back.
<5> oops! it's baaaaaaaack!
<5> hey, Quiznos
<7> 750 gb drive ? good luck getting the data off it in a reasonable amount of time ;)
<6> Simonize says: FREEZE!!
<5> agreed, headmonkey
<6> hi
<7> i think i only get like 20 mb throughput
<7> granted, its an old ide drive
<5> on and off for the rest of the day, i'm gonna be putting my new system together...
<5> got all the components now
<0> lo_tek: May the force be with you.
<0> lo_tek: Hope you've got a full roll.
<7> my man page browser got bloated, i think its gonna end up being 2k
<5> it'll be my second build, speedevil
<8> i guess i'll have to keep buying wireless cards until i find one that'll work
<5> and i've transferred the guts of two other computers to a new case, too
<8> wireless can be such a headache
<6> headmonkey see ld.info about post output binary information
<5> MrParanoia, now you know why i don't do wireless, heh
<0> MrParanoia: I prefer less less.
<6> MrParanoia !!
<7> Quiznos, why ?
<6> to see where the bloat came frome
<7> wtf is "post output binary information" ?
<6> ie, mapinfo
<7> sounds like something an ibm salesperson made up
<6> metrics
<8> well, if i have to go all wired i'll have to do expensive house remodeling for exerything to look professional
<7> i dont have mapinfo on my box
<6> it's output from ld's run
<6> and there is info you can get from running gcc too
<7> well i'll read all about this stuff, after i have a suitable tool to read it all with ;)
<9> hello. question: commandline isn't been slit onto the next line but goes off the screen. Is this an issue I should look for from the kernel boot options or is it related to the shell I'm using?
<6> headmonkey it's detailed in gcc*.info
<7> you mean, the gcc manual
<6> yes
<7> why am i reading this again ?
<6> i duno
<7> what problem have you given me to solve...right ;)
<6> ransu more detail please
<6> where the bloat came from
<7> i was joking about 2k being bloat ;) it was sarcasm
<6> oooooh
<6> through a fan
<7> i think the man command is 49k
<7> i can deal with a 2k graphical manpage viewer ;)
<6> that's too big
<0> Well, man calls a whole lot of other crap
<6> that's why it's too big
<9> in normal basic TTY login everything that echo' on the screen that's more than 78 char long goes off the screen rather than splitting on to next line
<6> it's just a dispatcher
<6> ransu ok, ...
<6> ransu see, stty.1, setterm.1, ...
<6> check those
<9> ok, thanks
<6> yw
<7> i have a list of all the manpage files...i just have to unzip into a textview widget
<6> let the tool do it
<7> Quiznos, no ;)
<6> dontmove did you identify to nickserv yet?
<7> i'll let the gz library do it
<6> ll
<6> kk
<6> dontmove read the topic
<10> Quiznos!!
<6> han!!
<7> hanumizzle, by manpage viewer has gotten bloated...looks like its gonna end up somewhere around 2k ;)
<11> I'm triing to wget onto a vfat filesystem, but it keeps switching the name to an all lowercase name. wget then gets a no such file or directory error... how do i fix this?
<10> headmonkey, that's nice...I can just use the Emacs man page browsing facilities here which do everything your kit does and, on top of that, actually exist
<10> dspr, under linux or windoze?
<6> dspr you mean you're telling wget to retrieve a file and store it on a vfat fs and it downcases the letters?
<7> yeah...you got 20 meg of bloat over there
<11> under linux
<11> yup
<10> dspr, you probably need to change the mount options for vfat
<10> headmonkey, you have no idea what the **** you are talking about
<7> hanumizzle, the emacs distro is 20 meg
<10> whose?
<11> i tried shortname=mixed,shortname=win95, and shortname=lower
<7> your heros
<7> rms
<11> nome of them worked..
<7> im sorry, its 19.5 M
<7> emacs-21.4a.tar.gz 17-Feb-2005 08:48 19.5M
<10> headmonkey, I use Emacs 22 from CVS
<7> cutting edge ;)
<10> don't knock rms unless you're willing to drop gcc, bash, etc.
<12> rms?
<10> r(ichard) m s(tallman)
<10> dspr, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html
<7> eventually...i do have the intel c compiler installed
<12> oh...
<7> we'll see how it compares first
<7> to be objective about it
<10> dspr, there is also a winnt behavior
<10> there's tons of other gnu software (or software that benefited from gnu) that are deeply ingrained in the linux culture since its inception
<7> awesome
<12> anyone ever use slax on hdd?
<13> nope
<14> yep, let's see people who bash RMS put their money where they mouth is and drop using all GNU/FSF packages
<14> >:(
<14> biotches
<13> but slackware on hdd :P
<12> heh i got an iso for the slax 'minimal'
<12> no X *clap*
<13> i know its posible
<10> moe|sizlak, slax isn't bad...I like the module system
<13> and its not horable
<12> just wondering if it would be worth trying on an old laptop
<15> bsdirl: define old?
<13> hanumizzle: guess what
<12> p/200 32m of eram
<10> eh?
<15> I've run slack+x on 486/75
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