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<0> sorry, wandering into the philisophical and won't be answered here tonight
<1> It comes down to knowing what it is you're doing. Period.
<0> ??? what's advanced about using a program that "used" to work?
<2> GWAR discography has finished download.
<2> YAY"!
<3> hmm my 2.6.15.2 is 25% smaller then previous one
<3> hope it works
<2> GWAR is so excellent
<1> wizzi: Not knowing how something works makes it "more advanced than you" by default
<1> NOt knowing *why* something works, is just pissing in the dark
<1> ...or pissing into the wind. Take your pick of analogies there.
<3> dark
<1> No one ever seems to complain like this when they can't do something esoteric in Windows
<3> bbl reboot
<1> They just blame Windows and move on
<1> I don't see how a problem happening on Linux automatically means everyone has to bend over to teach them what they really want to do
<0> Is simvision some fancy program? (I have no idea what it is...)
<4> wizzi, simvision is a logic simulator for CPUs and such.
<5> hello friends
<4> and its not too fancy
<1> wizzi: It's a software package complex enough that anyone using it should have no problem reading and understanding documentation
<5> so where is root's crontab stored? i need to retrieve it off of a drive from an old box
<6> how do i make nautilus not hide any extentions
<1> poo: The same place as every other user's crontab. Inside `crontab -e`
<7> howdies
<4> right now i can only ***ume that i should move away from ubunutu. things seem to just break out of nowhere...
<5> dagmar, i mean what file.. since its a mounted drive i cant use crontab -e
<0> dagmar: but was his problem simvision or X? a CPU designer shouldn't have to know X
<7> thechris, whats the problem?
<1> poo: It changes from distro to distro but you can try /var/spool/cton
<1> er /var/spool/cron
<5> dagmar, perfect thx
<4> Cashel, well, right now, X11 is just plain broken
<4> Cashel, i can't run local or remote apps
<0> poo: or /usr/spool/cron/crontabs/root o
<1> wizzi: If he's going to spawn apps on a remote machine, he does, or it's the local campus support teams problem.
<1> wizzi: Let me put this another way
<1> I know how to do all this **** specifically BECAUSE I will read documentation.
<1> Those people who willfully refuse to read documentation will generally stay very ignorant.
<1> Their laziness is not my problem.
<8> Does anyone know of a program to record your desktop?
<7> thechris, so how did you break it? And stupid as it may sound, have you rebooted? A lot of the gnome panels, applets, etc go crazy in X if they are ran twice, and sometimes X dies without killing them..
<1> Their laziness tells me beyond a shadow of a doubt that "helping them" by essentially handing them fish after fish is a complete waste of my time
<1> ...as is arguing with pesky n00bs about it.
<0> me too. but I've had that kind of response often enough when I don't know what the problem is, that I've had to read *far* more than I should have to in order to solve it.
<4> Cashel, i am afraid to reboot...
<0> sorcre: xv does image grabs, i'm sure others do as well
<7> thechris, understood, server then?
<4> and well, ubuntu hangs if I try
<1> wizzi: If you had to read "*far* more than [you] should" it's probably because you were missing that much knowledge to begin with
<4> Cashel, no, i'm afraid i won't be able to log back in
<7> oh
<8> wizzi: I don't mean images, I'm talking about recording what I do on my desktop
<7> p***wd root .. set a root p***word.. if it still doesnt work boot into single user mode and fix the problem from cli :)
<1> Being able to find information on the internet is the #1 most important skill anyone attempting to work with technology can have.
<4> i wonder how mit-magic-cookie gets enabled. i mean that just makes no sense... work 5 times, then suddenly a new security policy comes up...
<1> You don't have to know everything at once, you just have to be able to find out the things you don't already know when you need to know them.
<7> thechris, but if your realy afraid, kill everything gnome, x, etc...
<4> Cashel, yeah, i guess if it doesn't work, i can always more off of ubunut
<0> dagmar: this would be the philosophical argument I was talking about. I agree that everyone should be able to learn, but there's also the issue of time versus getting the job done.
<7> thechris, ps aux | grep gnome .. | grep nautilus, etc etc..
<1> wizzi: Expecting other people to continually use their time so that you don't have to use yours is just as good as asking to piss in my face
<9> well that was mostly painless
<4> Cashel, its an X11 issue. Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
<4> that was from trying to run firefox
<7> ohhh
<1> wizzi: Like I said before, if he'd shown any indication that he had been actually reading documenation relevant to the problem, I would have helped. It would be a huge waste of my time to even TRY when he was clearly at the "zero knowledge" level
<4> wa wa. now dagmar will have to be pissed off to himself
<1> Anyone who wants to criticize whether or not someone's going to spend hours walking someone through a fix should go straight to hell, do not p*** go, do not collect $200.
<7> thechris, put your /etx/xorg.conf and append your system details to a quick note page.. I'll see if anything strike me as odd..
<7> The one time I realy needed that kind of help, I prepaid a guy via paypal :)
<7> not 200 tho.. to high for internet help :P
<7> anyone running SLI under linux yet?
<7> buying a new board for this purdy amd 64 x2 sitting here... wondering if I should try out SLI or if its still too early...
<1> Cashel: Well, man... buy one video card now, and you can always order a second identical one if/when you find out SLI does work from looking at the nVidia README
<1> There are some caveats with SLI still
<7> Dagmar, PCI-e is cheaper is why I was fishing for opinions... :)
<1> Cashel: Look into the ASRock 939dual-SATA2 board then
<1> Cashel: It's got both PCI-e and 8XAGP on it
<1> Obviously that won't do SLI, but the board itself is cheap and it will let you continue to "fence-sit" on your old AGP card while you decide where to upgrade to from there
<7> was considering the Asus A8N-SLI
<1> I hear good things about that one
<7> So do I, heheh
<7> but not linux things, just good things :)
<1> Plus it seemed to work okay in the machine I built with one last fall
<4> sweet i fixed my issues despite dagmar
<1> Linux compatibility is about checking to see if a chipset is supported.
<1> You don't have to worry about specific motherboard modes
<1> s/modes/models/
<4> it fits in one line too... copy .Xauthority over...
<7> Am I correct in my belief that a dual socketed board will take 2 x2 chips thus giving me 4 core? :)
<7> considering trying it if works like that...
<1> The only thing on that board that should be even remotley problematic would be the SATA controller, which merely qualifies as "slightly bitchy" because it's SATA after all
<1> Cashel: That depends on the motherboard (check the manufacturers site!)
<2> how is SATA bitchy?
<7> yeah, and I have sata drives too.. but I'm preped for that ..
<1> infi: You've apparently been blissfully unaware than until 2.6.15 you didn't actually have a guarantee that your SATA disks would come up *in the same order* every time
<7> its my understanding that under some setups you cant boot from SATA
<1> ...and it's still "in theory" working properly with 2.6.15
<2> oh, right. I thought you meant a hardware issue
<1> Nah, just growing pains from a whole new type of hardware being intergrated
<1> er integrated
<2> indeed
<10> Cashel, I never could get GRUB to boot from my SATA
<1> Cashel: The bootloaders tend to always lag a bit in supporting new stuff
<9> when I get disconnected in a few minutes, you can imagine me cursing the madwifi drivers
<6> any suggestions to make nautilus not hide any extentions i can't seem to find it in the options and i'm not sure what to google for it
<11> hi all -- i got a really wierd problem with sh
<11> guys, if i run 'sh' from a terminal it runs bash implicitly in this wierd mode yeh?
<9> that's wierd?
<11> na
<11> thats not id
<4> scorp007, it is possible that sh is aliases
<4> scorp007, try: which sh
<11> hmm
<11> no see thats not the problem
<1> What the **** is a "weird mode"?
<11> i make a softlink in /bin
<11> and try to run it, but sh cant find it
<11> all other shells work fine
<4> scorp007, echo $PATH
<11> yep
<1> ...and how is this different from behaving exactly as the man page for bash says it will behave if you invoke it as sh
<4> is /bin there?
<11> i appended /bin to $PATH
<1> Amazing how little sense you're actually making
<11> lol sorry
<11> hard to expoklan
<1> How, exactly, did you "try to run it"? What, exactly, was "it"?
<4> scorp007, if you can't tell, dagmar will only tell you to rtfm...
<11> the softlink doesnt work
<4> then get pissy
<1> "doesn't work" is also uselessly vague
<11> but it only doesnt work in sh
<7> .. but then you SHOULD rtfm :)
<11> ok hold on
<7> tho getting pissy is bad
<11> i have a softlink called render in /bin
<11> it points to renderdl
<7> ok.. I've had enough whiskey tonight....
<4> Cashel, reading the manual only works if you know where to look, or want to learn everything abou something.
<1> OKay, so you have /bin/render pointing to /bin/renderdl
<11> renderdl works fine when executed from sh
<11> no, renderdl is in a different dir
<1> Executed how???
<7> thechris, learn everything about something? Where are THOSE manuals? lol ... point taken tho..
<11> well its a renderer
<1> What EXACT command did you type and what directory were you in when you typed it
<11> doesnt matter how its executed, it finds the thing
<9> the moment I start thinking this is finally working stable, it's going to break, I know it
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