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<0> to be made aware of the errors when i dont want to fix them is distracting
<1> well, when you finish your IDE
<1> tell me how it works out ;)
<0> it'll be awhile before its "finished" ... but it gets more useful by the day
<1> do you have a prototype?
<1> I'm interested at seeing what you have
<0> im using it to edit itself
<2> bytecoder, simply put, it doesn't exist
<1> hehe
<0> hanumizzle, you can state that with authority, but you cant see my monitor so you simply dont know ;)
<0> bytecoder, im working on a manpage browser for it atm
<2> one time I caught a b*** that weighed 278 lbs
<1> oh?
<1> what's wrong with 'man'?
<2> but it 'got away'
<0> bytecoder, man isnt a browser
<0> its a viewer
<1> oh, that clears things up ;)
<0> and mans binary size is 49028 ... which is more than twice as large as my entire IDE
<0> my manpage browser is only about 500 bytes, and will be another 500 before its done
<0> so to call man externally would take longer, and waste resources
<2> YAWN...the woman package in Emacs does all that and a bag of chips: http://centaur.maths.qmw.ac.uk/Emacs/WoMan/
<3> info is more of a browser
<1> wait
<0> gufymike, yup...seperate deal tho...right now i just want a manpage browser
<1> so your manpage "browser" works for any type of manpage?
<1> and it's only 1000 bytes?
<0> bytecoder, its a file finder w/ a viewer & search function
<0> i need the file finder object at other places in the code
<2> yes, info is a superior format for some things...even so, man can be very good for depth-first searches
<0> so yes, it will find manpages and browse/view/search them
<1> uh huh...
<2> a few lines of emacs lisp
<0> it only takes 1,000 bytes because the data structures that make it work are already in the code and 100% reuseable
<0> a list is a list is a list ;)
<1> why are you measuring a portion of a program in bytes?
<1> when you couldn't possibly know how big it would be
<0> bytecoder, because its an indication of speed and efficient code reuse
<1> not if it's not accurate...
<4> Does anyone know why module1 would fail to load module2 ,despite module2 not beeing loaded?I can modprobe module2 fine
<2> codergeek42, is 42 the answer?
<2> if so, what is the question?
<0> bytecoder, i know how large it is, because as i add parts of it i recompile and it displays the binary size
<1> unless you measured the object file
<1> but unless you were to manually pick apart the final binary, you wouldn't know how big it is
<0> 69876 -> 24554 35.14% linux/elf386 oc
<5> anyone know if there is a NOAA chanell somewhere?
<0> bytecoder, i know how large it was before i added the manpage browser, i can see the bytecount go up as i add functionality to it...will i know the exact number ? no...will my estimate be accurate ? yes
<6> hanumizzle: It's the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything :)
<2> how do we know any of this exists?
<0> hanumizzle, you cant and you dont...unless you posess the knowledge to understand that what i say is possible
<0> in which case you can come to the conclusion that it could exist
<2> headmonkey, yeah I guess it 'could' exist
<0> if my goal were to impress you, i'd email you a copy of it ;)
<0> but thats not my goal ;)
<7> or belabor ##linux with it
<2> well, it seems that most of your arguments about software use the hingepin example of your stupendous vaporware
<1> http://cwarren.infogami.com/Boa/syntax
<1> I added exceptions in the example
<0> hanumizzle, i cant be held accountable for your perceptual biases
<2> headmonkey, 'perceptual biases'? I'm just calling a spade a spade
<0> thanks for proving the point ;)
<1> what point?
<2> bytecoder, when we call his bluff, he tries to derail the argument into a bunch of philosophical bull****
<0> bytecoder, that he has a perceptual bias, and reality escapes his grasp concerning certain subjects, as it does all of us
<8> "how much doyou trust them" "oh to the ends of the earth" "and when is that" "oh about 12 minutes away"
<2> what 'certain subjects'? your vaporware?
<2> if you are going to make an ***ertion, BACK IT UP
<0> hanumizzle, i made it all up...forget that it exists....and never make use of it ;)
<2> that's very simple
<0> hanumizzle, you cant afford for me to back it up, same as you cant afford to purchase a license for windows source code
<0> hanumizzle, if you can indeed afford it, and would like to purchase it, i will make it available to you upon receipt of your funds ;)
<2> headmonkey, fine...then don't tell us about your vaporware
<0> hanumizzle, dont listen ;)
<9> Question! What does it mean when my computer completely halts and the caps and scroll lock are flashing?
<2> someone who is able to fit a man page browser into <= 1K of code should already be ridiculously wealthy
<2> spyro_boy, I'd say that's a kernel panic
<1> spyro_boy, computers usually do that when they restart
<1> flash the lights, that is
<9> O.o
<1> or start, rather
<1> is it continuous flashing?
<1> or just once?
<2> ominous, continuous blinking
<9> Mine does this often when I'm screwing around with my wifi
<1> I've no idea, then
<9> bytecoder, continueous
<1> sounds like something's b0rked
<10> Hello folks
<9> It has happened to me a lot in the p***ed few days.
<2> wtheck, hello
<9> I mean, around two-three times this morning.
<9> It's starting to anger me.
<2> is your brand of wifi card known to behave like this?
<10> I have rhel4 on a box. If up2date is not working, is it possible to i) re-install python ii) repair python install? somehow!
<9> Actually, more worry than anger.
<2> wtheck, try rpmfind.net
<9> hanumizzle, nope. It doesn't do it on windows.
<2> it could be the driver
<1> sounds like a linux driver problem
<9> Lately my wifi connection has been crappy so I'd keep having to screw around with the antena and reconnecting, maybe that
<9> that's the problem. *
<9> bytecoder, hanumizzle, thanks.
<9> Is it unhealthy for my computer if I just leave it this way?
<1> depends
<2> spyro_boy, I doubt it
<1> try it and find out ;)
<9> :|
<9> I can't wait until I pay for my own net.
<1> is there any way you can isolate the problem?
<9> I'm ONLY using this wifi because I have to share the DSL with my dad.
<9> bytecoder, isolate the problem? What do you mean?
<10> B|ngo! found src-rpm, useful?
<10> for python
<1> as in
<1> figure out what's causing it
<1> e.g., try using a different wifi card
<2> wtheck, you might just want the binary
<1> try connecting to a different network
<1> etc
<10> hanumizzle: ?
<10> hanumizzle: Is it possible to gather the binary without up2date?
<1> wtheck, you'll probably want a binary rpm
<9> bytecoder, I can't get a new card
<1> wtheck, a source rpm means it'll compile it, IIRC
<1> spyro_boy, well, try and isolate it somehow
<9> bytecoder, and uh, yeah, there are two networks I can connect to easily.
<1> well, it sounds like a driver problem
<1> although it's not possible to tell 100%
<9> bytecoder, I hope it's only a driver problem.
<1> well, if it's a driver problem
<2> try fuddling with it on a virtual console...when it crashes, you should get diagnostics
<1> it's likely you'll have to fix it if you want it done any time soon
<1> or maybe try and send in a bug report to the maintainers of the driver
<1> see if maybe they can help
<9> bytecoder, I'm using ndiswrapper
<11> what do i type into konsole to find out what processes are running and using up so many system resources ? the load of my comp is reaching 6 and i've no idea as to why
<9> The drivers aren't linux native.
<1> spyro_boy, is there a native driver for your card/chipset?
<12> anjay: top
<1> that might be the problem
<9> bytecoder, I doubt it.
<9> I'll go check.
<2> anjay, top or ps aux
<1> what wifi card do you have?
<11> thanks, lemme try 'em
<9> bytecoder, US Robotics Turbo PCI
<9> I don't remember the model number, but I can find it on the official site by picture. :)
<12> anjay: gnome-system-monitor is also good for seeing memory usage
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