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<0> redduck666: I don't know how it does, but it does
<0> or at least it seems so
<1> i mean how does it differ between 'real' file and 'hard link'?
<2> it must detect them
<1> man_in_shack: how?
<2> inode comparison or something
<0> redduck666: you can detect hard links by checking the inode number. hard links have the same inode umber
<0> s/ umber/number/
<3> this really, errrr...."hit the spot" >:), http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=867732F62F33280B my apologies, I'm overlyimpressed and thought...I'd share. Good morning, ##linux.
<1> pinchartl: i know that, but they are preserving the hard links at the high cost in performance
<2> redduck666, how?
<1> they are probably checking ALL the things that are copied, and if you give it to copy crapload of files that would take a LOT of time
<2> don't need to
<1> there is no other way to check for hard links (that i know of)
<1> man_in_shack: no? what is the other way?
<2> every file has counter for how many hard links there are
<2> normally 1
<1> man_in_shack: yes, but to find out the hard link they must check every other file
<0> redduck666: no, they could keep a hash table indexed by inode number
<2> redduck666, getting that info isn't too bad. the whole directory is read into memory when it's accessed
<2> and it stays there
<1> btw that checks how many files with the same inode number there are. if two files have the same inode number and are on different partitions they are not the same
<4> idea: take GNU-C++, replace all libs, headers with rationally written libs and headers, be rid of the bloat
<5> hi
<1> 15:40:31 /bs/c/courses $ time cp -a hard_links/ dir1
<1> real 0m10.632s
<1> 15:40:52 /bs/c/courses $ time cp -r hard_links/ dir2
<1> real 0m7.443s
<1> -a is slower :)
<2> -a has a lot more things to check
<5> i'm using wget to fetch certain files off a ftp-server. thing is it fetches index.html files four times for each directory (C=[M,N,S,D] and O=[A,D]). in my case there are hundreds of directories to 'parse' so this process takes quite a long time. is it possible to disable fetching all those index.html files?
<2> redduck666, remember it's not just hard links but permissions too
<2> and such
<2> :)
<6> wee
<7> Hi lads
<2> anyways ...
<7> which Linux OS would you guys recommend for networking and security penetration testing?
<8> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chrysalids
<5> re
<2> redduck666, if you don't like the "efficiency", why not write your own cp program? :)
<2> teh opensourceness
<7> ?
<5> [repost] i'm using wget to fetch certain files off a ftp-server. thing is it fetches index.html files four times for each directory (C=[M,N,S,D] and O=[A,D]). in my case there are hundreds of directories to 'parse' so this process takes quite a long time. is it possible to disable fetching all those index.html files?
<1> man_in_shack: it is not that i don`t like it, it is that i am interested in how it work
<1> s
<5> snf, as target or as source platform?
<7> sourc
<7> e
<5> snf: you're free to choose, personally i'd take debian.
<5> btw. linux is the os, which is all the same. you mean linux distribution
<7> yeh :P
<7> why debian?
<5> you might want to have a look at grml.org
<5> because it's gnu!
<5> and none of the whistle and bells crap
<5> ubutntu, debian, slackware something like that
<5> if you don't want to lean linux you might want to try something more easy like gentoo
<7> i want to learn it
<5> but basically it's all the same
<5> try debian
<5> it's good
<7> what about suse and fedora, well ive narrowed it down to 3 susde, fedora and debian not sure which one
<7> ok :)
<8> Recommending Gentoo for Newbies? Debian for Newbies?
<8> hu?
<5> sure. he's prone to learn
<8> i guess
<8> just a hard road to take
<5> for network administration and testing?
<5> you're kidding?
<8> oh my bad
<8> I thought that guy was new
<8> I havnt read up
<8> my bad
<7> :)
<7> thanks alot for your help :)
<9> folks I had installed libs to use mathlab based apps here as a user but I don't remmember how to place them on path sot the apps can see it can anypne give me thos command line please?
<5> snf: debian is a good approach between taking all configuration tasks away from users and doing all of them
<7> cheers :)
<5> suse mostly prevents you from configuring things yourself, although you can with some effort to prevent suse from managing things
<7> oh i see
<7> isnt suse owned by novel or something?
<5> slackware is quite unix-like which keeps configuration to the user
<5> debian is the approach in the middle, configuration: yes configuration-overkill: no, thanks
<5> snf: suse got owned, yes
<7> hehehe great
<5> and of-couse, it has decent package management
<7> do you know the minimum requirements for debian?
<5> .. and comes in various branches :)
<7> i see
<5> snf: it's minimum requirements for linux
<5> and you can run linux almost everywhere
<7> i see ok :)
<7> thanks alot man
<7> i ***ume your a debian user yourself?
<5> i guess you're talking about x86 processors here?
<8> XFCE is a good light weight Window manager I think
<5> there are various ports to other platforms
<5> seer___: www.debian.org
<8> Sparc, Power PC, etc
<5> 'see': debian.org
<8> ARM? i think
<10> I love XFCE. With all the goodies, it's what allowed me to give up Win completely.
<5> yes, arm too
<11> I have an ancient Pentium III 650MHz laptop with 60 MB of RAM and a 6GB HD and I want to run some graphical linux distro on it
<11> is there anything that is small enough to run on it ?
<5> ..
<5> damn
<5> you can run any windowmanager on any linuxdistro
<12> ive ran ubuntu on a Pent1 - 100
<11> 60MB RAM <<<<
<12> so about any disrto can work onm that thing.
<13> I think "not painfully" is implied here
<12> but use light window managers
<5> you want a decent, slim _windowmanager_ not a graphical linux distribution.
<11> doesn't X use like 32MB at least?
<12> dsl - can proberly run good on it.
<14> how do i set a paging (swap) file? I don't have a free swap partition
<12> Genfoo: my laptop had about that much.. or less..
<11> hahahah
<11> will look into DSL
<12> WTFMI: theres a swap hopwto. you just make a swap file then use the swapon command. I think
<15> Vista calls it's composite engine 'window manager'
<11> lol: (you will be amazed at how fast your computer can be!)
<15> =)
<11> composite engine lmao
<5> vista - my ***!
<8> Zenwalk
<15> yes, like xcomposite
<16> ugh... damn stomach viruses :|
<16> I just slept for 21 hours
<11> :\
<14> dr_willis, thanks
<11> with
<11> *wtf?
<12> well ya know a multi-billion doller company. cant be expected to come up with good names/terms.. :P
<11> I just woke up from sleeping 13
<11> dr_willis, I don't know what to download
<11> but I'm guessing its this:
<11> http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/current.iso
<11> correct?
<12> Genfoo: thats when it pays to read the web site. :P dsl is a live cd' that caninstall to hd.. so yes.
<12> a HUGE 50mb!
<12> :P
<16> that's damn small
<16> hehe
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