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<0> email's cheap
<1> Viking667, the university spends $TooMuch on printing crap out for me.
<2> i love that picture
<2> i can't help but look at it and laugh
<3> I do my best to print two-up, both sides.
<3> I've had one book I was able to print four-up, two sides... that was a lotta pages.
<1> Viking667, when I print out course notes, I usually do duplex and 4-per-side on a ream of paper that I stole from work...
<3> I find that on a 300dpi, 4-up is mostly too coarse for diagrams. Hell, it's too coarse for 1-up due to the dpi<==>lpi conversion.
<1> Viking667, these are scanned handwritten notes - instructor calls it "poor man's powerpoint"
<3> ewww.
<1> They're not bad. Most Powerpoint notes I see are pretty crappy.
<3> Hope he has a REALLY good scanner then, or that he writes nice and large
<1> ftp://mershell.no-ip.org/temp/may31.pdf - look past the 1st page
<0> lo_tek
<4> Hrmm ... simple enough question ... I'm using TightVNC to VNC into my server. Only problem is, I seem to be getting twm ... how do I run KDE?
<0> kdestart



<4> I don't seem to have that?
<0> look in opt/kde/bin
<0> is it there?
<4> Quiznos: I don't even have an /opt/kde
<0> is kde instald?
<4> Quiznos: Most definitely
<4> It works just fine when I'm physically at the computer.
<0> where?
<0> i hate remotes
<0> where is it?
<0> kde/
<5> good night! pleasent dreams to everybody!
<0> nite
<4> Quiznos: Uhh, sorry, gotta go, something came up. I might be back later but I don't expect you to stick around waiting :-P
<0> i'm here for 4h more
<0> ~4
<0> s'ok
<0> ~3 actually
<0> miscnted
<0> cyde run updatedb
<6> hello
<0> which Levin are you? :)
<6> can someone help me with a software prob? even if my drivers & modules are installed linux still complains /dev/video either no permission or no such file- this is a logitech quickcam folds
<6> i'm *the* andrew levin
<0> heh
<6> the, this one, anyway
<0> i dun video
<6> i must have kernel support for this
<6> it worked before
<0> do you>
<6> cant figure out difference
<0> k
<6> only webcam
<0> find a howto
<6> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/browse_thread/thread/b187e46d7020c5b7/4fa69b2c9dc502f7?lnk=st&q=%2Fdev%2Fvideo%3A+simple+linux&rnum=1#4fa69b2c9dc502f7
<7> ooga booga ! my IDE just compiled its first source file
<0> woo
<6> i looked
<0> where?
<6> nothing good enough
<6> i had it working
<6> linux documentation project
<6> all the drivers were/are loaded
<0> k
<6> mknod'd correctly
<0> see if there's a #video
<0> or #kernel
<3> "22k" ?
<6> hm
<7> 22k binary size
<7> i cheated a little
<6> it seems my drivers are not loaded, i must have given up and said **** it
<7> its 63k without upx
<3> ahhh.
<6> ok, so i will just use a picture thats 3 years and 50 pounds and a beard old for now
<6> thank you quicnos, very kind and friendly
<6> in fact
<0> load em up
<0> yw
<6> i like you so much i will stay



<7> still...i think its impressive....i can shave another 1k off it easily
<3> a_levin: you using quickcam or c-qcam or bw-qcam?
<0> yw
<6> no its 2.6 theyre not modules on here
<6> quickcam
<6> but tried c-qcam
<6> neither worked
<3> a_levin: you using Mandriva?
<6> slack
<3> yuck.
<6> Viking667, http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/browse_thread/thread/b187e46d7020c5b7/4fa69b2c9dc502f7?lnk=st&q=%2Fdev%2Fvideo%3A+simple+linux&rnum=1#4fa69b2c9dc502f7
<7> gedit is 600k and it doesnt even compile ;)
<6> it always worked before
<6> just had to do a little homework
<6> but this is like flunking the midterm
<3> a_levin: ah huh. If it worked before, .rmmm.... did you recompile the kernel or something?
<6> yes
<6> i did
<3> Oh. Define "doesn't work"
<6> but what difference is there, i dont know
<6> errors that disable user programs from reaching and using /dev/video
<6> $ xawtv
<6> This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.16.18)
<6> WARNING: Your X-Server has no DGA support.
<6> can't open /dev/video0: No such device
<6> v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
<6> v4l2: open /dev/video0: Permission denied
<6> v4l: open /dev/video0: Permission denied
<6> no video grabber device available
<6> $ gqcam
<6> /dev/video: Permission denied
<3> mmm. try that as root
<6> bash-3.00$ ls -l /dev/video
<6> crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-05-29 23:54 /dev/video
<0> are you in group video?
<6> # gqcam
<6> /dev/video: No such device or address
<0> or root?
<6> no
<6> root there
<0> ls -l /dev/video
<3> Quiznos: doesn't matter. perms are wide open
<0> is there a subdir
<6> bash-3.00$ ls -l /dev/video
<6> crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-05-29 23:54 /dev/video
<6> no
<0> k
<3> it's usually a char dev.
<0> grep -w video kerneltree/doc/devices.txt to match the node maj.min
<6> any suggestions? this isnt essential im willing to take a pont in the right direction
<0> a_levin: ln -s video video0
<6> hjold
<6> oops
<3> Quiznos: that won't work either, if device isn't even modpraobed
<4> Quiznos: I'm back, running updatedb now.
<3> a_levin: lsmod | grep quick
<0> cyde k,
<6> no modules
<0> Viking667 maybe it's a name thing?
<6> its built in the kernel
<6> even when i had the modules loaded, however, i got the same error
<6> (sometimes)
<3> a_levin: oh. That's a surprise.
<4> Quiznos: I do have that run on a cron job every night though so I don't think we need to wait for this to complete ... what are you looking for?
<6> on an earlier time it worked
<3> a_levin: try this: lsusb | less
<6> ethen on another build it stopped
<0> cyde, k, locate kde |less
<3> look for a logitech
<3> actually, change that line a bit.
<6> not registering the camera there dude
<3> a_levin: try this: lsusb -v -v | less
<4> Quiznos: Heh that's a huge amount of results


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