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<0> yeah i dont need IP6, its just that i noticed it did have one of those, but it doesnt seem to be getting an IP4 from the router.
<1> where is a good place to ask about initrd images and the linux boot process?
<2> It keeps you from being "proactive" which tends to become "labor-intensively stupid"
<3> anyway, the IPv4 should just be from the DHCP server. what output does dhclient provide why you try to use it?
<2> sin: Google
<0> but my other wired box, and the laptop im on wirelessly right now, they both connect fine.
<0> danieldg: it times out
<3> can you see its request on the DHCP server?
<1> Dagmar, scowered it can't find exactly what Im looking for
<3> oh, the IPv6 address is probably fe80:: something, which is link-local and doesn't count
<0> danieldg: its a basic router, so i cant see any logs or anything from it.
<0> also, the ethernet is connected, and verified on both ends physically and by the ethernet lights. its like the router is just ignoring this one box, and i dont know why.
<2> Well, I've done my five Google lookups for people and I've only been in here three hours tonight
<3> ironfroggy: ok, does ethereal on the box see anything interesting?
<4> then dont do the lookups
<4> Dagmar, tell them to search for themselves. its in the faq is it not?
<2> sin: I suggest you do what I generally do, which is to paste your question into Google
<0> danieldg: where should i look for something relevent?
<2> ev0: That's what I'm doing.
<2> I've had it with people lying to me about not being able to find stuff with Google tonight.
<3> ironfroggy: look for anything on the UDP ports 67 or 68; do you only see your requests?
<0> danieldg: on the box trying to get the address? i says its trying dhcp on port 67
<3> ironfroggy: ok, and nothing else?
<5> how do i write an iso with cdrecord?
<3> ironfroggy: if you set the ip manually, can you ping other computers? (maybe cable's bad or something)
<2> *groans*
<0> danieldg: i cant set it manaully for this router very easily. but i know the cable to be fine. thing is, it works perfect if i use a different router. just this router/PC combination that i have trouble with.
<0> any other box works with this router, and any other router works with this box. just the two together that i have trouble with.
<3> ironfroggy: very strange. maybe the network cards just don't like one another or something
<3> (you can tell I'm out of ideas ;)
<0> i have never seen such behavior in my life.
<0> and i cant change the router either. its my vonage router :-/
<0> maybe i can connect the old router to the new router and the PC to the old router and .. gee thats sad for one PC and two routers on one desk, isnt it?
<3> yeah, that does seem like overkill
<0> i dont know what else to do :-(
<3> tried the other ports on the router with no change?
<0> yeah first thing i tried
<6> got a computer here... worked fine for months then one day began shutting down for no obvious reason. Seems likely to me that it's overheating (AMD) but nothing has been changed and the fans are still spinning. Any ideas?
<0> tried the same one the other box works with, and no good.
<0> ok, i just found something weirder on this.
<0> the box is getting a DHCP lease and an IP, i see it in the DHCP table on the router. so maybe somehow it is never getting back to the box.
<0> ok how do i set the IP manually, now that i know what it should be?
<3> an idea: check the MAC address of everything - all distinct?
<3> ironfroggy: is this running linux? what disto?
<0> mandriva
<3> ok, don't know the exact place there. ask google or #mandriva or something
<2> What the **** is with some people? http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Kittenhuffing.gif
<7> lol this is a long shot but, anyone here willing to test a program for me? They just have to tell me if it runs.
<8> what that for?
<8> me run progy and get probed by trogen stik? okay. sounds good.
<7> it is a tcpserver I made using lazarus
<8> what is the tcp server being used for..?
<7> it relays text that it was sent back to all connected clients
<7> (chat program)
<7> I'm need another user to test it because it runs on gentoo fine but not on my friends os (suse)
<7> oh and it runs on windows
<7> it runs on the computer that it was compiled so I want to make sure it doesn't only run because of that
<9> can someone look at my named.conf -->http://pastebin.com/635319 for some reason i cannot make it to query the forwarder dns server first (or only for that matter). when i do an nslookup www.google.com its always says its using my local dns server instead of the forwarder..
<2> duh
<2> Nslookup is going to query based on what's in /etc/resolv.conf dude
<7> overrider: you would have to pay me to try and set up bind and a named.conf file again
<10> i think that people that say duh are stoopid
<7> pain in the arese
<2> At least I can spell.
<10> and rude and ignorant
<2> Get back on the short bus and be quiet before they put you in timeout again.
<11> wtf
<10> huh? was that an effort at comedy?
<11> whos trolling
<7> oh great
<7> some idiot is going to pull the firealarm
<2> Rather obviously, CrazyDoode is, but I think he's just being a knob more than actually attempting to trol..
<10> at least im not rude
<2> But you still whine like a little girl.
<11> rj1, who was your comment directed at
<10> dagmar, that's a girls name right?
<7> phew they didn't pull it
<10> or are youa guy that dresses like a girl.
<9> Dagmar, ok , this was the method to check which dns server it is using. my problem is that i am having a machine called outside.abc.com , which isnt in my locl network. it is somewhere else with a dynamic ip, so when i try to ping it in my lan of course it says not found.
<2> No more than Queen Elizabeth is a boat's name.
<12> Dagmar, i'm surprised you haven't /ignored that douchebag yet
<2> TragicZ: He's on his third strike now for failing to make valid points.
<10> TragicZ: duh
<13> what are some ways to take a dir full of .wavs and burn them as audio frames?
<12> heh
<2> overrider: So what's that got to do with nameservice, specifically?
<11> rj1, were you referring to CrazyDoode when you said "some idiot"?
<7> no
<11> rj1, then whom
<2> overrider: It shouldn't matter what nameserver is being used, if the people maintaining that other domain haven't screwed up.
<7> I was referring to some idiots who were outside my door about to pull the fire alarm
<11> gotcha
<2> rj1: Stabbing makes a great discouragement for that.
<9> Dagmar, how else would i be able to resolve machines using my domainname in my lan AND also a few which are outside on the net.
<7> grr
<7> I can't believe they are considered my peers
<11> rj1, kick their trashes
<7> grr
<7> Wouldn't be hard seeing that they all were drunk
<2> rj1: take a picture of them.
<7> don't have my camera here ;(
<2> ...or just squeeze a camera in their general direction.
<2> Or something that just looks like it MIGHT be a camera if they're drunk
<7> heh
<7> I'd throw my laptop at them if it wasn't my laptop
<2> A PDA will work, or even a freakin walkman if it's dark.
<11> dagmar, lol
<2> Mention that campus police might be very interested in the picture when determining who gets to pay the fine for a false alarm
<13> so you wouldn't throw your laptop :)
<14> Hello
<9> Dagmar, say your dns server is serving abc.com ; when you try to to ping ggg.abc.com and you didnt specify it in your zone file, bind will not try to look if another dns server has a valid record for it, it will just say not found ggg.abc.com
<7> that's okay, they are bound to use the Internet one of these days >:)
<15> greetings to everyone
<2> overrider: Of course. That's the way things are SUPPOSED to work.
<2> overrider: Your local zone file makes YOUR local nameserver consider itself the server of authority for that zone.
<2> overrider: You *can't* just add entries to an existing zone maintained elsewhere, if that's what you're asking.
<13> tried xcdroast, didn't look like there was any way to say "convert these wavs to tracks of DA frames then burn those tracks"
<2> ecdemo: GOogle knows
<9> Dagmar, well i know, but i thought that was what the forwarder first directive was for. when i ping ggg.abc.com, it asks an external dns, gets an answer, done. if i ask for aaa.abc.com it asks an external dns server, doesnt find it, then asks my local server, finds it, done
<2> overrider: nope.
<2> overrider: Docs are nifty.
<13> tried that, that's how I got to xcdroast
<16> hey Dagmar
<2> overrider: A forwarder is just a host that all queries with no cached/local answer are forwarded to, INSTEAD of your nameserver trying to lookup the hosts
<2> Generally they're not terribly useful
<9> Dagmar, ok then, too bad
<9> thks though
<13> anything specific you know works with 2.6.7 and cdrecord-2.01 (possibly with a patch or two)?
<16> ecdemo, got kde?
<13> on one machine, yes
<15> so dont violate or you get violated :p
<2> pfft.
<16> do you use it on your burner machine?
<2> cdrecord can do it
<2> ...but again, reading is fundamental.
<16> Dagmar, not all of us are hardcore :P
<16> some us prefer easy :P
<13> not this one, but I think both have burners; I know the one that does not have kde has a burner
<2> martian67: That's what Windows and OSX are for
<16> Dagmar, i disagree
<2> Of course, the tradeoff is that you're limited in what you can do with them.
<16> linux has the best of both words
<16> it has hardcore when you want to be hardcore
<16> and easy when you want easy
<7> your point?
<2> Then people shouldn't whine when they want hardcore but only want to be easy.
<7> ; () ()
<7> j///k
<16> ecdemo, k3b is a great app for kde
<7> martian67: just remember, the next time you see a penguin be sure to thank it.
<13> the one with kde, not sure what drivers are there, but it was from a custom debian-installer image said to use kernel 2.6.15
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