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<0> Jabberwock: you need to get out more than me if you can 'despise' a group of programs (other than windows of course)
<0> :-)
<1> bronze: why does "umount /work" not work? /work is my smb share
<2> windows is not really a program, it's just a random collection of leftover bits from one.
<2> >:(
<3> misha-amd64: try smbumount
<1> bronze: the fstab thing works at least with "mount -a", I will restart now..
<4> q_w_e: Your ***umptions are wrong if you ***ume that I sit around thinking about despising programs unless I'm using them and having issues.
<0> yay all servers, drives and users finally back online and it's only 215am :-)
<0> Jabberwock: figure of speech dude
<4> So was my saying I despise them :P
<5> Q: I created a source package for a python app with automake. It installs fine, runs fine, the dynamic globals.py file even works. However, I have a q: How do I package it to make it portable? Lots of files like install.sh, COPYING, INSTALL etc are symlinked to /usr/../automake/ something. Should I just make "static copies" of all these files when making my tarball?
<5> or is there some additional command you give automake/autoconf to make it nice and tidy and "portable"
<5> note the nerd points for me: Today I made a package that builds with ./configure; make && make install for the first time :-)
<5> yes, ##linux is a soapbox! ;-)
<6> nice of him to not have a complete quit
<7> hey, I've got some bash scripts that may or may not try to access stuff that my user should not be accessing....is there a way with the env vars (or something) that I can make sure it doesn't do anything it shouldn't?
<7> my, that was incredibly vague
<5> yah that was vague.. umm, `whoami` perhaps, to check you are root?
<8> kaylee_: run it as another user
<5> aha now I get it. Yes, run it unprivileged
<7> how do I run it unprivileged?
<5> wells slpyhd said it. Make a user and give it just enough privileges and nothing more
<9> ok ... there's a businesscard, netinst ISO image which I can locate from ftp/http sites. Where can I find a full one? I'm reffering to this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6ysYOk83.html section of Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide.
<9> ups
<9> wrong channel
<10> ae
<10> opz
<11> look under cd images
<11> ah i was about o say why aren't you asking in debian
<7> engla: I don't have enough access to make a new user
<5> kaylee_: okay, then I have no idea at all. But what would happen if you ran the command chrooted (i don't know if you can do this either), would that solve it?
<0> we need a bot on this channel, the apache one is so cool!
<7> engla: I decided to just go for broke and try running it
<7> it _seemed_ to do fine.
<7> so I guess I don't need to worry too much
<0> good night
<12> hi guys, how can I find what groups a user has?
<12> i added a group like: usermod -G blah user
<12> but I don't see it in p***wd... where is it stored?
<13> aaron: /etc/group
<13> aaron: if you are logged in as the user then the 'id' command will show you too.
<12> scampbell: excellent, thanks!
<14> hi guys
<14> I'm looking for a silent air compressor to clean my PCs... any recommendation?
<15> a straw and strong lungs
<9> hehe
<16> compressors are generally loud
<14> lol
<9> Renich: why not just use a vacuum cleaner
<14> yeah, but there are some that are silent
<14> hahaha
<16> which ones are silent?
<14> well, dentists use silent ones... there are aerographs too
<14> those are silent and you find 2HP ones
<12> ok, i have nsswitch set up for "files ldap". I'd like to add a *local* user for an id that is already in LDAP. Now I think I can't use the usermod/useradd tools (they try talk to ldap) so I have to manually add this person
<14> but I have never used an aerograph compressor and don't know if it would work
<12> is there a way to get the home directory created correctly other than just manually copying it to the right place?
<12> (the ldap account specifies some different location, like /users/username)
<12> or can I jsut point the local account to the same home dir?
<12> (i think i can if i keep the same uid/gids)
<12> also I don't want to fsck myself over by screwing up /etc/p***wd :/
<12> or maybe i could temporarily hack /etc/nsswitch to comment out ldap, and just use useradd/usermod as normal
<12> but i'm afraid of hosing my system
<17> im having a problem with cardbus in linux
<17> linux detects when i put a card in the system, but it doesnt show up in lspci or anything
<13> arron: sorry, haven't done much with ldap auth :(
<12> scampbell: are you familiar with 'vipw' command and whether it is legitimate to use on Linux?
<12> (man page says it's from BSD...but this is a RHEL system so I'd presume only OK software was installed)
<13> aaron: I would just manually add the entries to p***wd and shadow myself. Back them up first is always a good idea. cp -r /etc/skel /home/username then chmod -R username:usersprimarygroup /home/username to set perms. Should be gtg.
<12> i'd need to do 'crypt' or something to generate the p***, right?
<13> aaron: leave it blank then use p***wd to change it. I'm thinking it should find the files entry first and change it for you.
<12> hmm ok
<13> aaron: and, since the user doesn't exist in ldap it can't really hurt to try. Otherwise, yeah you can crypt your own.
<12> the user will exist in ldap
<13> aaron: just glancing at useradd and family it looks like you can just do '--service files' and they all operate on the local stuff (as opposed to --service ldap)
<13> aaron: that from man useradd
<17> man this is pissing me off, pcmcia doesnt work properly in the gentoo live cd or my base install
<17> but as soon as i pop in a suse cd it does
<13> dman: different versions of pcmcia I presume?
<17> not sure
<17> same kernel version
<17> well 2.6.***
<12> scampbell: hmmm, apparently the useradd I have with RHEL AS 4.0 is not that smart yet
<13> aaron: darn
<12> but I will try to remember to bring that up with the sysadmins next time they are considering upgrading
<13> dman: my suse shows pcmciautils rpm, it has firmware and such for various things. I'm not an expert here but I'mm guessing that would be of issue.
<12> because that would be very useful in this case
<17> i have pcmciautils installed
<17> what version you got?
<13> dman: vers 7 release 9
<13> dman: suse 10.0 default that is.
<17> im using
<17> pcmciautils 012
<13> dman: looks newer to me 012 > 007. how odd.
<17> but yeah iv configured the kernel and everything what i think to be perfectly
<17> all the pcmcia modules are loaded
<17> unless pcmcia depends on another device on the laptop
<17> which i havent loaded
<7> is there a way to find out who was logged in and when?
<7> (not current, I'm talking about previously)
<13> kaylee: use the 'last' comand.
<13> dman: i have modules pcmcia pcmcia_core yenta_socket firmware_cl*** rsrc_nonstatic ipw2200 probably the last two are related to my specific card.
<17> i have all but firmware_cl***_rsc_nonstatic
<17> and ipw2200
<13> firmware_cl*** and rsrc_nonstatic... I think the firmware_cl*** might be of issue, just guessing that it loads the proper firmware for each card. Again, no expert here.
<17> ill load a suse live cd
<17> and see what modules it loads
<17> yeah firmware-cl*** is there
<13> dman: k, of course, we are comparing apples to oranges to some degree but you get it.
<17> yeah
<17> well i figure linux is linux
<17> as far as this goes anyway
<13> dman: /lib/firmware seems to hold the actual firmware code for me, I have 144 files in the tree down there.
<17> how do you unload a module
<13> dman: modprobe -r modulename
<17> ill unload the firmware module from the live cd
<17> and see if it still works
<13> dman: linux = linux if same versions and distro. otherwise it's only similar :0
<17> bah cant unload a used module
<13> dman: pull the card , unload the module and stuff the card back.. most likely the card won't load though.
<13> dman: that really only tells us that suse need the module 'firmware', doesn't really say much about gentoo's versions. :(
<17> well the way i see it theres two possiblities
<17> 1, im not loading a certain module in gentoo
<17> 2, theres a bug in gentoo that suse doesnt have
<13> dman: or 3... gentoo isn't properly installed <runs for cover>
<17> hah
<17> well gentoo is installed, the kernel is compiled, pcmciautills is installed
<17> but yeah there might be a issue with what iv compiled
<17> for sure
<17> oh wait a second
<17> firmware_cl*** is there
<17> i have pcmcia, firmware_cl***, yenta_socket, pcmcia_core and rsrc_nonstatic
<17> thats gotta be it
<13> dman: yeah, just saying. I'm tech for hire by trade so I always ***ume that all problems are my making until I can rule that out..
<17> yeah
<17> well i cant see suse specificly patching a bug in their kernel for this
<17> and not giving it to the offical tree
<17> which gentoo would then use
<17> maybe i should just use suse :P
<18> anybody an idea?
<18> prior with ubuntu breezy I was able to execute files from my usb stick which has reiserfs, but back to debian sarge i'm not able, chmod is well set (no changes) how cime?
<16> J-Ph: how is your usb stick mounted? with noexec?
<6> Looking for some opinions here... Is linux (specifically gentoo) a big deal to get working with say, a usb canon lide 60 scanner? Is the software good enough to allow me to scan things pretty easily, with some various settings?
<19> anyone have the file i need to play Doom legacy?
<17> scampbell nope thats it ****it :P
<17> im going suse
<18> why suse dman?
<18> 10.1 ?
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