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<0> I don't know why people are apologists for bad games.
<0> Frankly, I'd say that I agree that porting bad games is a waste of time.
<0> http://linuxgames.com/news/feedback.php?identiferID=8606&action=flatview
<0> (referring to this thread)
<0> People seem to miss the fact that good games don't have to be expensive games.
<0> But, there are plenty of bad games out there, and they should be avoided.
<1> zborgerd_, well, i'm trying to stay impartial in the post, but -- yeah, i think the game is going to be terrible crap
<0> I like to support Linux gaming, but I won't buy low-quality titles.
<1> I don't understand their choice of game at all
<1> there are B titles out there that are still fun to play
<0> micks: It's because they already have some ties with that company, and it was an easy snag.
<1> yeah, you're right
<1> zborgerd_, did you have a look at the screenshots
<1> it looks like the crap that was robin hood remade as a mafia game
<0> micks: I think that LGP has been picking some good titles latey, but I was a bit worried at some of them after Majesty.
<0> micks: It is.
<1> yeah
<0> At least, that's what it looks like to me.
<0> I was thinking the same thing.
<0> Oh. Robin Engine? We ported that. Easy job for Chicago.
<1> right
<1> well, supposedly LGP's number one crappy game is software tycoon -- which is a Runesoft port :)
<0> To be fair, Ballistics and Bandits use the same engine, but they are both decent games that fill a niche on Linux that hasn't been filled.
<0> micks: No way. Software Tycoon spanks Soul Ride.
<0> Ugh
<1> heh
<1> I have neither of them
<1> don't intend to get them either
<2> {:-)
<0> I'm curious as to what lgp-michael|mob has planned next.
<0> Ah
<1> but I've been very happy with the recent titles
<0> Speak of the devil himself.
<0> micks: I have too.
<2> zborgerd_: an RPG I hope
<1> gorky 17, x2 and cold war are all cool
<1> lgp-michael|mob, so do I :)
<0> I love Cold War and X2, and even G17 (though I haven't played it all the way through)
<0> lgp-michael|mob: You already negotiating one?
<2> zborgerd_: Im negotiating three right now in the hopes one of them pans out
<0> Have you played all 3?
<2> no
<1> none of them
<1> heh
<2> but all 3 have good revies/previews
<0> Interesting.
<1> they're new titles, lgp-michael|mob doesn't want older games anymore ;)
<1> which is cool
<0> I'd still like to play Silver on linux, but I know that's not everyone's cup of tea and it's kinda old now.
<0> It probably wouldn't sell.
<2> micks: hehe yeah, Id LIKE to port NWN2, Civ4 and Halo 3 - however back in planet realworld...
<0> But, frankly, I'm out of the loop on PC rpgs.
<0> Since I only play console RPGs anymore.
<2> zborgerd_: when we get a linux RPG you'll play what LGP tells you to play! {:-)
<1> I've resisted the temptation of buying a console for a long time now
<1> lgp-michael|mob, lol
<0> Pretty much. :D
<2> gah thats it, Im taking a cab to the train station, I cant be doing with another half hour walk today
<0> It's good for you.
<1> what he said
<2> Ive already done 2 half hour walks today
<1> pffft
<0> lgp-michael|mob: Man. If you could snag the fallout games, you'd be the world's hero.
<0> Even though they are old, they are really well regarded
<1> I _love_ fallout
<1> zborgerd_, stay tuned to linuxgames.com
<0> Uh oh.
<1> i might have a very pleasant surprise for you in store ;)
<0> micks has yet another news story this week?
<1> more like monday-tuesday I guess
<0> Oh.
<0> That's far away.
<1> but fallout lovers will be very happy
<2> micks: hey, only Im allowed to drive people mad with anticipation on this channel {;-)
<0> Heh. Is SCUMM getting code? :D
<0> lgp-michael|mob: I know that you never share numbers, but do the recent three LGP titles seem to be doing as well as you hoped?
<2> zborgerd_: no, but our new salesperson who has been 'starting' for the last 2 months is now close to actually starting, so Im hoping for some improvement
<1> lgp-michael|mob, I think I fasttalked some guys in Slovakia into becoming an LGP reseller
<0> Yeah. I've been worried that they aren't going up the TuxGames list as quickly as I hoped.
<1> linuxos.sk
<2> micks: {:-)
<1> did they contact you yet?
<2> nlt that I know of
<2> but Im not first line of contact unless they have y direct email address
<1> I didn't give them your address
<0> Particularly, I really thought that Cold War would go faster.
<0> It's been pretty well-received by players. Why aen't people buying?
<0> Linux gamers piss me off.
<1> I'll have a review up at lg.com next week
<1> it's pissing me off as well
<1> it's one hell of a good game
<1> I got two copies so far, and I intend to buy more :)
<2> hehe
<2> micks plays them in stereo, one computer for each eye
<0> lgp-michael|mob: Are these newer RPGs?
<2> yup
<0> What do you cl***ify as an RPG?
<0> Turb-based Japanese style console games, or something like Diablo or NWN?
<2> to give you an idea, I was chasing 5, and one that Ive about given up on is gothic 3
<1> :'-(
<1> the non-existent developer team
<0> Wow
<2> zborgerd_: buggered if I know, I mostly play RTS {:-) I wouldnt know one RPG from another
<2> Im going on the fact that its reviewd as an RPG {:-)
<0> Man. I'm so far out of the loop on PC RPGs.
<2> now there is an interesting thought I just had
<2> if Linux had happened 20 years earlier, would communism (russian style) have been more successful, as it would have had an idologically sound technical base to build more modern technology on...
<2> probably not, but these things pop into my head sometimes {:-)
<0> No
<1> heh, I certainly hope not
<1> besides, Linux is based on freedom, communism is based on collective stupidity and red tape
<2> heh
<2> true, I guess in some ways I think of communism as 'proper' communism, not real world communism
<1> I sometimes can't believe how lucky I was not to get a real taste of the real world communism
<1> it was a close shave too
<1> I was nine when those morons fell
<2> yeah?
<2> ahh
<2> quick, now we can wrk out how old micks is
<1> 26
<1> it's not a secret :)
<2> really? I thougth you were older than that
<2> damn I feel SO old now
<2> I was under the impression you were older than me
<1> whaaaat? :D
<2> damnit, is SOMEONE older than me - anyone...?
<1> just because you teach at university you don't have to be an old absent minded professor :)
<3> To become really communistic, the GPL would still have to be rewritten in major ways, I think :)
<3> Yeah, that only happens when you get older :)
<2> to be really communistic, you wouldnt need the GPL, it would by default belong to everyone {:-)
<0> I think that's the big deal. People tend to intermix communism and dictatorships. They are not the same. Dictators (e.g. Zedong and Stalin) have probably influenced the way people perceive communism - at least in terms of a western standpoint.
<2> communism is great, it just can never work while human social evolution is as immature as it currently is
<2> give it another thousand years and it may work
<1> communism can't ever work, period.
<0> I think it's unrealistic.
<2> it depends if humans grow out of the need to accumulate
<1> if people weren't stupid and evil, there would be no difference between capitalism and communism in practice
<2> the star trek universe for one, tho its never really mentioned, is almost certainly a communist modelled society, everyone works for the good of the community, nobody gets paid, they all do it cos its right
<2> thats a good example of how it could work out (yes I know its fiction but you know what I mean)
<0> Mainly because I think it's impossible for everyone to be cl***less, or have a common ownership of things that are physical.
<2> My biggest thing is that if everyone shares equally, where is the motivation to work hard or to excel
<2> when you can sit around and do nothing and get the same results
<0> lgp-michael|mob: Star Trek is certainly modeled off of communism, but the key there is that technology sorta defies things the we rely on today.
<0> E.g. Food and objects can be synthesized.
<1> yeah the real world communism works like this: nothing really belongs to anybody, so nobody cares about anything, everybody's used to getting money for not doing anything at all and/or stealing and you have to go through awful red tape anywhere you go, everyday
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