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<0> hello
<1> oh right that isnt ballistics
<0> what isn't?
<1> http://www.irrgheist.com/
<2> ok guys, who is here who has minimal (and I mean minimal - to the point of 'colour within the lines') artwork skills, and who wants to be in the manual for knights and merchants, and has some spare time about now
<0> editing objects out of an image is more than just "colour within the lines" work, it's real hard, I know, I've done it
<2> yeah I know
<0> I had to cut Kazamatsuri Rinna out of a screencap to make a background image I have
<0> I thought I did pretty well
<2> but its not rediculously hard, Ive done 8 of them in the last 4 hours
<2> but I have 17 to do
<2> and with a decent tool, and I believe the gimp qualifies, it isnt too hard to do
<0> gimps alright, I could do with something better though
<0> I should start working on my own image tool sometime
<3> deltib: just stick with x3 and the cute anime girls project for now
<3> :)
<0> true, true
<0> I've come up with a lot of great ideas for Suupa Rori actualy
<0> mostly story related though
<0> I've knowen what I wanted from the gameplay for a long time
<0> and I even had the greatest idea...I could keep going with games in the Suupa Rori universe after the first game, once I've set the scene for the whole "world populated entirely by hot/cute females" I can do pretty much anything with it (except medival settings, since it's all sci-fi)
<0> to bodly go where no cute anime girl has gone before
<0> except in Kiddy Grade....and Galaxy Angel
<2> deltib: anyway stop cluttering the channel - I want people to spot the 'GET INTO THE K&M MANUAL' 'SIMPLE WORK FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS' message {:-)
<4> haha
<0> er, sorry
<4> well I have time but I really have not done much with gimp
<5> lgp-michael: Next couple of hours? But, but.. It's almost two past midnight!
<4> I waked up at 9pm
<5> lgp-michael: And yeah, I might do it anyway :)
<2> well, the job is - I have images, the buildings from knights and merchants - I need them taking out of their ingame background and putting onto a white background by erasing the old ingame background
<2> and in return you get listed as an LGP artist ***istant in the manual for the game
<2> so, if anyone is up for it...
<5> Oooh.
<0> white background? wouldn't an alpha channel be better?
<2> no, cos its going into framemaker which doesnt support alpha
<0> figures
<5> How many?
<0> I suppose you need to use framemaker cause of some industry standard thing?
<1> lgp-michael, still need help?
<4> never knew there was framemaker for linux :o
<2> PRaabjerg: I have 17 left to do
<2> deltib: yeah
<2> Darklock: there isnt {:-(
<4> lgp-michael: there is
<2> Darklock: I have to use doze for it
<1> lgp-michael, I will help :)
<2> Darklock: yes but it costs more
<4> but there is :P
<2> gaminggeek: thanks {:-)
<5> I will help too, if needed.
<2> Darklock: yeah, I just blank that out of my mind cos Id like to use it but I cant spend 400 extyra on it
<1> Your welcome :)
<2> PRaabjerg: thanks {:-)
<2> ok
<2> let me get an image for you both
<4> lgp-michael: support the linux efforts! :P
<2> Darklock: foir 400 pounds, when I have to use doze for illustrator and photoshop anyway - nah, Id rather spend the money on food {:-)
<1> lol
<1> right now what do I need to do with this?
<4> I could say the same when I get an lgp game for windows with a gaming magazine that costs tenfold at tuxgames :P
<2> gaminggeek: ok, all the background stuff, the gr*** behind the building stuff like that
<2> Darklock: yeah I know {:-(
<2> trust me, I wasnt happy about it
<1> get rid of it?
<2> yep, it needs to be white background
<2> Darklock: but really, 400 pounds is a lot of money - thats 2 months rent for me
<4> you share a flat? oO
<4> (is that even english?)
<2> yeah
<3> there's no framemaker for linux afaik
<3> at any price
<4> micks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fmlinux556.png
<2> micks: there is, or was last time I looked
<3> Darklock: there was one beta
<3> it never got released
<3> there's framemaker for Solaris
<2> I saw it up for sale
<2> hrm,maybe I got confused them
<3> that had to be bogus
<2> maybe yeah
<2> I dunno
<3> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/fmlinux.html
<3> that's all there ever was
<1> :(
<4> aha
<2> oh, it was *unix* that I remember it for
<3> yes
<2> yes, micks, yer a hero, you saved me
<4> lol
<2> I knew I remembered it, and it was more expensive
<4> dun think you will get away so easily next time!
<2> and I wanted it
<2> Darklock: heh
<1> lgp-michael, do you want the aliasing in there or not?
<2> trust me, when Ive been working solidly for 12 hours on artwork for a release, nothing is easy any more
<2> gaminggeek: the aliasing?
<1> jaggys
<2> ideally cos it looks better with them
<1> ok
<0> so you're cutting them out with hard edges?
<0> okay, that sounds a lot easyer
<2> no
<0> oh, right
<2> tho the radius of the tool Im using is small so its close to
<4> then gaminggeek got the wrong side
<1> ?
<4> you meant antialiasing?
<0> oo, you know what might make it easyer, switch to selection editing mode, and do that, and then once you've got the select mask just right, just copy and past
<1> do you need this path?
<2> I try and cut off the path
<1> ok
<2> or at least trim it to the logical doorway of the building, depending on the building... so if it has an archway, I cut it just inside the archway
<3> I wanted to support pixel
<3> I thought maybe lgp could be using it one day
<3> now the bloody thing refuses to open a .tga image
<1> that would be good
<1> :(
<1> got you doing some too eh?
<5> lgp-michael: Let me get this right. _All_ the ground must disappear, together with shadows?
<2> PRaabjerg: including shadows yes
<5> What about the trough left of the stable? :)
<2> for the stuff inside the stable for yours, leave the *inside* ground inside the fence
<2> for the trough, get rid of the broun muddy ground but leave the trough so it looks disconnected
<5> How about.. The brownish ground inside the stable?
<2> probably will look best if thats gone
<5> Otherwise, I guess stuff can be copied in again from the original.
<1> What about the stuff in side the fence next to the piggys?
<2> yeah, leave that inside
<1> ok
<1> Why are you getting them put on white background?
<2> cos they look better in the manual without a square of background
<2> I tried it with squares of background and it looked - not great
<5> Wasn't there a manual already? Ready to print and all? :)
<2> in greyscale
<5> Ah.
<2> we didnt get the best master artwork from the company we got it from
<2> we've had to wing a lot of it
<5> Anyway. This looks finished.
<5> I wonder if my router will allow file sends.
<2> yep {:-)
<1> I'm done too :)
<5> Ah. Good.
<1> sending
<1> doesnt look like its going to work
<1> is it ok if I put this on googlepages for you?
<1> oo it sent :)
<2> gaminggeek: it was working, I just was in the middle of retrieving PRaabjerg's one from its directory
<1> Ah right :)
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