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<0> im having issue with ld, anyone wanna give me a hand even though its not kernel related?
<1> hi. Anyone able to help with a problem with usb-storage and ISD-200 on 2.6?
<1> hmm very quiet
<2> we're all either away or ignorant.
<1> Think I'll give up for tonight.. If you want a driver debugged....You have to doo it yourself
<1> bye
<3> is anyone around who is knowledgeable about building a gcc cross compiler?
<4> emerge alsa is for the alsamixer ?
<3> emerge alsamixer, though this question should probably be asked in #linux
<5> how do I enable usb2 mode for external hdd on 2.4.27 ?
<6> anyone know why Linux does not free up swap space after an app that was using the swap space closes ? e.g. an app just used 800MiB swap, and now that it is closed 790MiB are still showing up as being in use
<3> i think this channel is dead
<6> shiftless: usually, yes. but once in a while someone is awake =p
<3> lol
<5> Samus_Aran do you know how to enable usb2 for ext hdd ?
<3> also, do you know how to build a cross compiler? :P
<6> _joey_: I know how you are supposed to enable it, but I haven't had it work for me as of yet (using a USB 2.0 camera with USB M*** Storage)
<5> how you suppose to enable it ?
<6> _joey_: it is just supposed to be automatic once you have the proper kernel modules loaded
<5> ehci ?
<6> _joey_: there are a couple modules for USB 1.1 and one for USB 2.0, which supports most but not all USB 2.0 host adapters
<5> all modules are automatically loaded during boot. I am using debian's default kernel
<5> 2.4.27
<6> _joey_: however you also need to keep in mind that on most mobos there are often some USB 1.1 ports, and some USB 2.0 ports. also most USB hubs are not 2.0
<6> _joey_: in dmesg it will tell you whether it is using low speed, full speed or high speed
<6> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
<6> like that
<6> you'll want it to say high speed
<5> Samus_Aran I can pastye ouptut from proc on #flood
<6> but as I said, I've never actually managed to get the Linux kernel to treat any of my devices as high speed, so I'm probably not the best one to get advice from
<5> spd paramater shows 12
<6> _joey_: watch -n 0.1 sh -c 'dmesg|grep speed|tail'
<6> _joey_: then plug it into each port and see if you get a high speed showing up
<6> I just tried all six of my ports but only get full speed, even though my camera claims it supports high speed
<6> I want to figure this out as well =p
<5> brb
<6> g'day all
<7> heya paistis, gb :)
<8> to patch a kernel the command i use is cat /path/to/patch | patch -p1
<8> right?
<8> ???
<9> what kernel version?
<8> 2.6.16-rc1-git4
<9> that is the commad
<9> or gzip -cd patch-version.gz | patch -p0
<8> whats the difference between that and the one i gave
<8> i noticed that one has patch -p0 not -p1
<9> read man patch
<8> ok
<10> chances are it is not the specific channel for that, but anyway: what would happen if I hot(un)plugged a PCI device from a normal desktop computer?
<8> thx
<8> TiCPU: i doubt any desktop pc supports it so the BIOS/kernel would get confused and it would crash
<8> not to mention its never a good idea 2 add/remove an electronic while its on
<8> y would u need 2 do that anyway
<10> well, just because my friend told me he hotplugged a PCI soundcard on a computer with WindowsXP and he got the little popup which detected the hardware right away, I was like: 'Huh!'
<10> I'll have to try that someday on a worthless computer
<8> i suppose its possible but its just a bad idea
<10> I already hot unplugged a video card because I had not choice and it worked but never hot plugged something
<10> I had no choice* I only had one card and it was a compaq which wouldn't boot nor ask F1 to continue if no video card was installed
<10> my real hotplugging issue however, is IDE disks, I always do that in Windows but on linux its a pain, I can't seem to be able to change the HD without rebooting
<11> opps
<12> TiCPU: you need too choose your friends more carefully :)
<12> you can hotplug anything if you can afford too replace it :)
<10> ahah
<10> no problems for IDE hard disk/cdrom, I hotplug them anytime in Windows OS, but when it comes to linux, I sadly can't :(
<11> TiCPU: perhaps someone is working on a driver for the specific hardware you are using
<11> what hardware is it exactly?
<10> just via82cxx very normal IDE chipset
<11> is it actually a hotplug system?
<10> no
<10> it just works
<11> seems you should actually get hotplug hardware if you are going to do hotplugging
<10> I bet it cost much more than a standard MB
<11> me too
<10> not supported however does not mean not doable
<11> dont expect more than it says it can do
<10> just re-reading IDE disk geometry should not be that hard
<11> try reloading the driver
<10> just like the need for rebooting after fdisk'ing a disk non system partition, re-setting the sectors of changed partition should not be hard
<10> as read in lsmod: via82cxxx 13980 0 [permanent]
<10> [permanent], the only module having that tag
<10> seems like rmmod -f did the trick anyway
<10> remodprobe did a big kernel OOPPPSS
<11> well... you better be sure you arent actually using the module
<11> like you know... mounted filesystems and all
<10> oh no, I just modprobbed it, changed disk configuration and re-modprobe
<10> I'm only doing tests right now
<10> that method is not viable with 4 IDE disks plugged on the bus
<10> even with the OOPS it seems it worked
<11> in anycase... if this isnt a server, just reboot...
<10> lazy solution
<11> if it is a server, shell out the cash
<10> I hate that way of programming
<11> what way?
<10> not thinking of what is possible and only what it is said can be done
<11> when it's not designed to do it, you shouldnt
<10> should not does not mean forbidden
<10> some day I'll have to put my nose in the kernel source to check how things were done
<11> it's more of a "at your own risk and dont complain when you break everything"
<10> which is exactly what I'm thinking
<12> TiCPU: I have in the past plugged & unplugged disks into a functioning box
<10> windows allow that bad stuff to be done
<10> gb: with the same disk its not a problem, with another disk, the kernel just don't get that the geometry changed
<12> no problemif they're identical, can be tricky if they're different geometries though
<10> hdparm -z won't reread the partition table because disk geometry changed
<12> yup
<10> just like fdisk'ing a disk in use won't update the values in kernel even if a partition isn't in use, that is Very dumb
<12> although there are controllers supported under linux which can handle that too
<11> gb: yeah... but he wont pay for any
<10> no as it only is my own personnal computer
<11> pff... it's just dumb
<10> not thinking of those possibilities is just dumb, right
<11> right... well when you short something out, you will see how smart you are being
<10> I'll have to do it myself someday when I have time, but I never played with the kernel source yet, well, just a little in some modules
<10> I shorted the power supply more than once, like 4 times, they have auto resetting fuse in there anyway, I always plug IDE then power
<10> now that I have a better power supply, not overloaded, I never had troubles
<11> ... it wont always save you from yourself. it's not meant to do that.
<5> could someone tell me if this controllers supports usb 2.0 please
<5> USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 11)
<10> ah well, that turns in circle: not meant for, not designed to, not the way is it suppose to be used. I always think about what can be done even if it's not designed for, I'll peak at the source code someday because anyway, every answer I had to that problems were the same
<5> on PIII board
<10> joey: nop
<5> :(
<10> maybe you have other busses, any other USB listed ?
<5> 0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 11)
<5> 2nd one
<10> same thing
<5> but I have four usb connectors
<5> is usb 2.0 supported on ms windows for these controllers ?
<10> nop, they are listed as Universal Host Controller
<10> USB 2 is Enhanced Host Controller
<5> I need pci card with usb 2.0 ?
<10> it could be one way to get such a controller
<5> what are other ways ?
<10> new motherboard ;)
<13> is it possible for a process to get a notfication whenever a routing table update occurs ?
<13> anybody ?
<10> Gravis: +IDE hotplug (controller level)(Alan Cox) <-- ooohh wow, a patch in -ac kernel patchset, seems like someone though about it as being doable but not recommended (shesh)
<14> Is ti possible to get CPU serial number or any other number that uniqly identifys certain board?
<15> is kerneltraffic down for anyone else? i haven't been able to get to it for a few weeks now
<16> Hi
<17> hi, has anyone an idea on my odd pcmcia problem? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3070753.html#3070753
<9> is it possible to limit connection cast usage whit iptables
<18> paistis: #iptables
<9> thanks
<12> your welcome :P
<9> gb: morning
<12> paistis: iz it?
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