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<0> 2.{6.{16{-mm1},15.6,14.5,13.4,12.6,11.12},4.{33-pre2,32},2.{27-rc2,26},0.40} <- haha, who wrote this must be a psyco
<1> hi, if dmesg reports "Hyper-Threading is disabled", does that imply the processor supports HT? I have a Dell system and I see no BIOS option to enable HT, can I force it to be enabled under linux?
<2> how do i specify an alternet .config file to make?
<3> why don't you just back up the .config file?
<2> I'm working with two kernel configuations, was hoping there was a way to choos other then coping/symlinking
<3> ryan`: ok, i'm not sure about that
<3> conn: do a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
<3> if that says "ht" then it supports hyperthreading
<3> i think dualcores also report that, though
<1> bernardl: it's there
<3> conn: is that a dualcore machine?
<1> bernardl: nope, in fact it's a celeron
<3> celeron supports HT?
<1> well it has the flag enabled, but there's no bios option to enable it
<3> what flag?
<1> I'm wondering if Dell do that because it's a "budget" system to deliberately cripple the functionality
<1> the "ht" I mean
<3> that just means it "supports" it, it's not enabled
<1> right, I was asking if the kernel can force it to enable, overriding the BIOS
<1> just to see if it works
<3> that i don't know
<3> but hyperthreading is not that useful anyways :)
<1> heh, ok :)
<1> I was in a tinkering mood ;0
<3> maybe it's a kernel boot option
<3> i'm not sure
<1> acpismp=force
<3> i presume cat /proc/cpuinfo does not show you have 2 cpus, right?
<1> nope..
<1> I don't have 2 "physical" cpus
<3> ht will say you have though
<1> if it's enabled, I suppose
<3> yes, it will
<3> so you need to figure out how to enable it
<1> I'll try that boot option, brb
<4> Hello what does an oops message mean?
<4> The sidewinder module works in 2.6.14 but not 2.6.15. I use gentoo-sources
<4> I would try a clean source next, may I oldconfig from the gentoo-sources made earlier?
<5> hi. i can't get any response from the kernel i built (2.6.15.1) does anybody have an idea what i could be missing?
<3> define "response"
<5> bernardl: there is none... that's the main problem
<3> does it boot?
<5> no
<5> the last thing i see is the message from grub. after that there is only a blank screen
<3> have you modified the grub config to use the new kernel?
<5> yes. actually it was done automatically and looks pretty saner from what i can tell
<5> /s/saner/sane/
<3> try a newer version :-)
<3> 2.6.16 is out
<5> i don't think it is the kernel itself. should be rather my setup
<5> though... i got no clue where to start searching
<3> kernel-HOWTO is a good start
<3> also, look specifically on how to rebuild it under debian
<3> here's my notes for building on debian: make-kpkg --revision=<revision> kernel-image kernel-headers
<3> might be out-dated though
<3> also zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz
<5> yes i did read through howtos
<5> i mean i rather expect i spoiled the menuconfig
<3> well also check your compile logs
<3> see if there were any errors
<5> it fails to build the kernel on the first error doesn't it?
<3> not necessarily, i don't think
<6> hello! i was hoping someone would be able to provide direction for helping me make a patch for lzma compression support! (for ppc...) i'm a bit of a newbie...but at least i could make an ebuild for the updated version of the lzma sdk :-/ any hints of what to do next?
<5> i build a nearly unchanged kernel now. just to see if it is my kernel setup or something different. only made the ext3 fs being built in rather than the ext2. yet i wonder why he takes so long to compile. i was told it should be fast without changes to the config?
<7> what does "profiling support" ?
<7> I see this option in my kernel setup and I don't know if I should enable or disable it.
<5> TheBonsai: doesn't it sa something like: "if you don't know di """
<5> ops /s/di/do/
<5> /s/sa/say/
<5> bbl
<8> hi. even if i use the standard settings as provided by the package my screen keeps being black right from the start. i only changed to build in ext3 rather than ext2. what else could i try to make it working?
<9> sending echo Hello :) to neil_m gb TheBonsai :)
<10> Was ioperm() removed in 2.6 or has it never been apart of the kernel ?
<8> how do i get a initrd (for use with grub) after building the new kernel? or would i need to create this together with the build? i'm a bit confused there because i read howtos on this issue and none did mention to create an initrd
<10> some distros has tools to automagically create initrd images
<10> s/has/have/
<8> yes debian has. but is there a way to create this after the kernel is built? or is the only way to do it all again?
<8> actually debian even updates grub`s config, claiming everything is fine not mentioning that no initrd was present...
<8> might be i'm in the wrong channel for this specific issue though
<10> I guess there is no problem creating the initrd afterwards
<8> hmm ok i'll look further into this. thank you
<11> Isil`Zha: technically you don't need initrd too boot a kernel
<11> I dont use initrd
<11> I actually have ramdisks disabled
<11> waste of space in my kernel & memory as far as I'm concerned
<10> hehe
<11> initrd are great if you are wanting a kernel that will work on almost any hardware, personally I prefer my kernels too only work on my hardware & I dont give a rats if my kernel config dont work on yours
<10> this is probably a stupid questin. Is there a particullar reason to why a kernel driver would use ioperm ? ( I guess it has all the permissions it needs )
<11> yup you're right :)
<8> gb: sounds interesting. but as long as i don't deactivate this it would need one right?
<11> Isil`Zha: nope
<11> initrd's are only needed if you are lame enough too compile things needed too mount / as modules
<10> Isil`Zha: if you have configured the kernel to fit your system it should boot without initrd
<11> if you compile everything needed too identify the hardware & fs for / into your kernel initrd is sperflous
<8> gb: actually this might be as this is my first attempt ^^ and i guess this concerns pretty some things
<8> Kjetil: i did but it doesn't boot. so i search for a reason
<10> Isil`Zha: what error did you get ?
<8> Kjetil: none. and this certainly doesn't make things look better
<8> Kjetil: the only thing i `get` is a blank screen
<10> Isil`Zha: you did compile it with vga support ?
<11> Isil`Zha: did you plug the screen in?
<8> Kjetil: that vag console support thing? yes
<8> /s/vag/vga/
<8> gb: no chance to forgat that. this is a labtop ^^
<10> Isil`Zha: does it show a lot of text before the screen goes blank ?
<8> ... my spelling today....
<8> Kjetil: the only thing it shows is the message from grub
<11> Isil`Zha: depends, I have on occ***ions forgotten too remount the video cable properly after pulling apart the keyboard, etc in one
<10> what message ?
<8> Kjetil: those about 4 or 5 lines it prints out after the respective kernel was selected
<11> ahh good so lilo/grub/boot loader functions?
<10> *ponders if the grub config is misconfigured *
<10> -config
<8> gb: yes no problem with grub. but as the only image which works has an intrd it made me thinking about things...
<8> /s/thinking/thin/k
<8> .... hopeless today... :P
<10> Isil`Zha: no uncompressing linux message ?
<11> Isil`Zha: more often then not you're just missing something silly like console support
<11> but if grub/lilo/why works then it should at least start decrompessing the kernel
<8> Kjetil: i looked into this. the lines look alike. just the line containing the initrd is missing
<11> 2.5" hdd?
<8> Kjetil: ah yes no uncompressing message
<10> Isil`Zha: initrd will not prevent the kernel from booting
<10> /loading
<8> gb: i expect it. can't tell for sure
<11> use your fav search engine/rtfm for it
<11> my lilo.conf's are too simple :)
<8> i actually read a howto on it. it was claiming to include the initrd line too... apart from that it should be as it is supposed to be
<12> hi
<11> and very long
<11> medium
<10> Isil`Zha: if you run grep -i console .config in you kernel source folder what does it say ?
<10> s/you/your/
<12> can't get my rtl8139too card to work on amd64 with 2.6.16
<12> what's the prob
<11> Kjetil: you really shjould shoot your typist :)
<11> seuche: hahahaha throw it in the rubbish & buy a real one :)
<10> gb: yeah, I should
<11> seuche: seriously if it's a machine you use a lot, you should
<11> get a 3com or similar
<12> hmmmm.... i've got a nForce network card onBoard. this one worked for some time, but the stopped working suddenly.
<11> anything but a card with that crappy 8139 chipset
<10> 3c905 is nice
<11> I prefer even 10mbit cards too 8139's
<8> Kjetil: what do you want to know? i don't know about c&p in console sorry...
<10> haha
<12> i've got a 3com card
<12> i'll try it
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