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<0> paistis>still saying i have a 2.4 kernel
<0> how u doing, just woke
<0> 2.4.31 #6 Sun Jun 5 19:04:47 PDT 2005 i686
<0> ive installed the 2.6.15.1 kernel and its displaying 2.4.31
<0> ive put system.map in /boot along with image file, and edited lilo.conf
<0> root@ggggg:~# lilo
<0> Added slack(k2.6) *
<0> root@ggggg:~# uname -a
<0> Linux ggggg 2.4.31 #6 Sun Jun 5 19:04:47 PDT 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linu
<0> wonder wtf is going on as i have compiled 2.6.15.1
<1> clown1: no fire here
<1> Can anyone get todays /server joke?
<2> How to see if kernel has evdev functionality? Should I do grep evdev /proc/kallsyms ?
<1> mm
<1> you know emacs would make a terrific os, if only it had adecent text editor :)
<3> i am getting a 'PCI-DMA: high address but no IOMMU' kernel panic when testing the gpl broadcom drivers (alpha yes i know); is there a way around that issue? the only fix i have seen mentioned is setting the IOMMU in the bios but mine (compaq laptop) has no such setting, does anyone have knowledge on this?



<3> or could i live without IOMMU build into the kernel? (amd64 1.5GB ram)
<4> Morning
<5> hallo
<4> Morning
<1> that wot you reckon?
<6> so system.map, .config, image, only the 3 files to be placed in /boot, just making sure before i do this on my good machine
<1> clown11: did you mkswap your / partition yet?
<6> ahh dam, i ahvent
<6> turned swapon
<6> i havent*
<6> lucky im only unzipping the tar.gz
<1> a pfy of mine did that after an all night install of slack via single floppy
<1> wasn't very happy afterward
<6> yeah i bet
<6> i just enabled swap
<6> root@stixfish:/usr/src# cd linux-2.6.15.1
<6> root@stixfish:/usr/src/linux-2.6.15.1#
<6> funbit
<6> lol
<6> ok menuconfig open, "Load an Alternate Configuration File" , wheni enter that it asks for the .config file, do i just type /boot/.config
<6> Enter the name of the configuration file you wish ?
<6> ? to load. Accept the name shown to restore the ?
<6> ? configuration you last retrieved. Leave blank to ?
<6> ? abort.
<6> i could type /boot/.config in there
<6> File does not exist!
<7> hey guys.
<7> anyone about?
<6> /usr/src/linux-2.4.31 thats where my old config file is
<6> toload in menuconfig
<4> Morning
<8> moo
<7> hey guys
<7> I was wondering if anyone knew of issues in the kernel with VIA 8235 chipsets
<7> Specifically with the 82xx sound drivers
<9> Solaris444: yep
<9> dont know why you aretaking a poll about it though
<7> sorry Bonz. I have a a computer here that is refusing to behave.
<7> I try to run some particular games in SuSE Linux 10.0 and there is just no sound.
<7> Is there any fix at all?
<9> I bet its doing just as you told it :P
<7> thanks Bonz :-P
<7> Is there a fix though?
<7> This is for a customer.
<7> I ship a reasonable number of linux systems.
<7> Sound seems to work under xine.
<9> depends on what you are doing wrong
<7> Well, I just run through the usual setup routine.
<6> i want to load my old config file in menuconfig is the path /boot/config-ide-2.4.31 or /usr/src/linux-2.4.31 , sorry just wondering which one itis
<9> oh so you want me too troubleshoot for you & let you pickup the $?
<7> No $ in this for me Bonz
<7> It's for my Uncle.
<9> well drop the bulldust & try with some facts
<9> things like what you've done already
<9> what is & is not working
<7> He stOK then.
<7> Well, I get sound on startup no problems (using KDE)
<9> if audio is working with somethings then you probably have something locking it
<7> Sound in Amarok is fine.
<7> Sound in Chromium is fine.
<9> yup once kde starts arts will prevent other things from using it



<7> Sound not working in Tuxracer.
<7> Not working in frozen bubble.
<9> killall -9 arts & voila sound should work
<7> just tell arts to NEVER start?
<9> actually I thinkits called artsd, but fuser -av /dev/dsp should tell you
<9> no, because things that use arts wont work then
<7> um, but they can't do that every time.
<7> Besides, wouldn't killing arts after startup just prevent all those things from starting anyway?
<9> nope
<9> I use kde without arts occ***ionally
<7> and how does that go for you?
<7> I just don't understand why you are so sure arts is the problem.
<9> in any case its a suse user problem,not kernl related
<9> simple,because you tell me sound works sometimes & you admit too using arts
<7> ah ok.
<9> its a common user error
<7> I have heard arts has issues. But isn't it a dependency for a large number of porgrams?
<7> I'm sorry for the incessant questions, but I really don't want to have the same problem again.
<9> nothing too be embarr***ed about, its just a matter of reading & experimentation on your part too get your config right for your needs in your wm
<9> different needs==different config
<7> ok.
<9> good luck
<7> Alright. but don't remove arts?
<10> There are things like artsdsp to wrap non-arts-aware things to using arts, aren't there?
<9> rj-away: doesn't always work, especially for things that write directly too /dev/dsp
<9> some things also have options too take advantage of arts, esd & other crappy user daemons, but I found most of them too be painful
<4> Hi my friends
<4> What caused the kernel panic "kill init"
<4> Unable to kill init
<9> how long is a piece of string?
<10> Bonz: Doesn't artsdsp hook 'open' for calls to open '/dev/dsp' and translate them appropriately? (I could be wrong, I'm just guessing how I think it'd work.)
<9> rj-away: I'm tellingyou from experience that while it works for some things it does not work for everything
<10> I've experienced similar results with esddsp.
<9> just a pitareality I'm afraid
<9> yup
<9> even alsa which is suppossed too fix the mess in audio dont always work
<10> Makes me wonder why some things work with the dsp wrappers, and some don't...
<10> Maybe one way, once I summon enough 'care', I'll find out.
<9> rj-away: slaq coding :)
<6> i been told by a guy, that all he puts in /boot after a kernel upgrade is just the image file
<10> Heh.
<6> hmmmm
<10> clown11: That's all you need if you don't have modules, et al, but you probably still need to update your bootloader.
<9> clown11: yup, been there done that if you dont ant too use lilo
<6> i want to use lilo
<6> illput System.map , image file in /boot , just the 2
<6> edit lilo.conf
<4> Clow1 does u kernel work
<10> You might want to name the image, System.map something more significant.
<6> Paistis_gprs>Sorry dude bombed out 2 times last night
<10> Like bzImage-2.6.11-sound or something.
<6> back for a 3rd
<4> And run lilo
<9> I recommend always putting your .config in there too with kernel-version-config or similar too
<10> *nod*
<6> yeah my image file is just bzImage pretty plain
<10> Makes it easier if you want a similar config to an existing one but with something small added/changed/etc.
<6> ok
<9> yup, dont forget a cp /boot/bzImage /boot/stable if it boots ok
<10> .config's not required to boot (neither is System.map) but they are generally 'a good idea(tm)' to keep around.
<4> Back to the cl***->
<6> ok bonz ill write that down
<9> of course you might not find it very stable if it crashes,but you can fix that whenever
<6> ok
<10> Which distro are you using?
<9> bithard too copy it when you overwrite bzImage with a borked kernel though
<6> kernel-version-config , wheres path to that one dude
<6> im on slackware
<10> Slackware doesn't have a sane way of upgrading kernels, 'the slackware way'?
<10> So package maangement, etc don't break?
<10> *management
<9> clown11: chuck it in /boot with your image for reference
<6> yeah. slackware is picky at times


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