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<0> hi
<1> hi, what option is needed to support more than 3 gb ram on x86_64?
<2> hi mem support
<1> which option
<3> hey is hotplug staying as an option or is it getting removed and forced to use udev ?
<4> Hotplug is obsolete.
<4> Later versions of udev counterindicate the use of hotplug.
<4> er... s/counter/contra/
<3> well it still works now . I ahgte and not getting into it but I hate udev . I prefer to stay with good old well working never had a problem static dev . wich is stay beause it the basic . man linux is tartignt o feel like m$ lossing the chioces . was one of the greatest things I loved about linux . so if I don't use udev I'll loose hot plug :(
<3> ahgte/hate
<3> staying* its*
<3> tartignt/starting
<3> so if I still wan to use static and not be forced into using something I hate whats will I be able to use for hotplug . ?
<3> shouldn't say if . I do want to still use it
<3> man I'm starting tyo dislike linux . Its becaoming mor like m$ . Losing chioces and being stuck with one you don't want
<3> kernel 2.6.16.15 I/m in General setup whare is CINFIG_HOTPLUG ?
<5> use the '/' key to search for CONFIG_HOTPLUG
<3> it in the kernel config but do / CONFIG_HOTPLUG and it says its not there
<5> actually, bvernt
<5> it's UDEV now.
<5> hotplug is deprecated.
<3> bvernt?
<6> oneforall: definitely
<3> well the config is still making CONFIG_HOTPLUG
<3> so whats it unde in thew kernel
<3> definitely?
<3> bvernt whats this ?
<6> oneforall: definitely
<3> yeah whast younsaying definitely to thou :D
<5> my personal multipurpose exclamation of reversal/scoffing/disgust/etc. don't worry about it.
<5> move along, nothing to see there.
<6> I thought it was your lexdysic typist teasing the lemmings again
<3> so what do I look at in the kernel thats still making the CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y in the config file ?
<6> oneforall: what makes you think repeating your question will get you an answer?
<3> hope
<3> :D
<5> perhaps it's for backward compatibility, WHO CARES?
<5> it won't affect anything.
<6> if you cannot be bothered too go & look for it with less and./or grep why should we?
<5> if the new kernel doesn't pay any attention to it, it won't make a difference if you put CONFIG_GOATSE in the file! some things aren't worth investigation...
<3> I do I don't want udev I want to stick with static dev and no not devfs(sick of hearing people say that) and hotplug
<6> so do it & stop taunting us
<3> well if its removed then I'm forced to use someting I hate. The m$ style . I left it years ago now it haunting me :(
<6> oneforall: why not just stick with a kernel that still has it in?
<5> just use goddamned 2.4 then.
<6> oops sorry for suggesting the use of common sense, thats obviouslynot what's called for here
<5> Point: "In 2.6, Hotplug Support Is Deprecated."
<5> Choices: a) Use 2.4. b) Don't use Linux. c) Learn the nice features of udev and get used to it.
<3> been using 2.6 for a long time and its still working .
<5> d) Disable udev
<3> I tried udev and I ahte it . because every one jumpo\s off a bridge I gotta jion them . NO
<6> oneforall: then stop taunting us with your obvious wisdom on the subject
<5> e) write your own branch of 2.6 that re-enables hotplug.
<5> 6. There is no option 6.
<5> 7. No poofters.
<6> yay mp
<5> Q: Now shut up about hating Udev. Noone cares.
<6> yeah we already got one :P
<3> well looks like one of the greatest thing\s about linux just died today . ahs the m$ attitude now we don't care use what we tell you no more chioces damn
<5> Go flame torvalts@osdl.org fer crissake.
<5> torvalds
<6> oneforall: warning
<6> support@microsoft.com would be just as relevant :P
<3> yeah sounds like it
<3> so shall I change my version reply to xp****syourballs
<6> oneforall: if you cant be bothered too help yourself, you probably shouldn't inflame the situation by carrying onlike a pork chop
<6> oops sorry thats not being sensitive too pork chops
<5> my pork chops are always very well-behaved, I'll have you know.
<6> mine usually get eaten :)
<5> well, yes, but they don't talk back and get cheeky.. er.. saucy.. er.. they don't give me lip. um.
<5> ok.
<5> maybe they are little bastards.
<3> well you must be a windows user too abviously
<4> Then they deserve what happens to them.
<4> That's the first time I've ever seen the phrase "carry on like a pork chop" tho. I like it. :)
<6> hehe
<5> Boy, HE sure gave us the verbal lashing!
<5> s/HE/he/; s/us/US/
<4> I remember oneforall from ##Linux.
<4> I don't have nice words for him.
<5> yeah, I bailed from that crapfest
<4> He's one of those hard-line communists that believes that for something to be good, drooling head-trauma victims should be able to use it without documentation.
<5> heh
<5> When you have books like, "Teach yourself C++ in 10 Minutes" selling like hotcakes, it's to be expected.
<4> I'm thinking (speaking figuratively, not ***ist) that these people just need to find geek boyfriends.
<4> ...or, *friends* for that matter.
<4> I've had to look at udev way too much lately. I can't really find anything structurally wrong with it
<4> I thought #7 was "Cannibalism is right out."
<5> nah, every odd rule was "No poofters."
<6> Dagmar: please dont knock communists by ***ociating them with oneforall
<7> nah, dont think it was me yesterday
<7> but lately #kernel has been getting alot of activity, especially in the lemming sector
<7> mmm and last lemming wanted to use devfs instead of udev on new kernels
<4> I'd rather push the "make explody" button than close the gate.
<6> hmmanyone else notices trhat mcedit screws up sometimes when coding?
<6> vi doesn't seemtoo do the same
<6> not sure if it's mcedit, ncurses or just screen
<6> but it's quite annoying
<6> might even be that combination with the tridentfb
<6> anyone else had thesame on the same or different framebuffer?
<7> mcedit? never used it
<6> this is on a2.4 kernel so I'm hoping when I finally finish configuring my now 3 subversions out of date 2.6 kernel that it will be fixed
<7> if my laptop would have finishe compiling id have the latest
<7> but it didnt yesterday, so itll be out of date tommorrow or so
<6> hehe
<6> I dont even get too finish configuring before a new version is released & usually it's acase of I dont even finish diwnloading the current kernel before a new one is released
<7> yeah rythym is picking up
<7> they make too mny
<6> gottuh havea newrelease for each bug :)
<6> the ones they introduce that is,not the ones they fix :)
<7> might as well just set up a svn server so we can just svn update; svn log --limit 15
<4> They have pills for getting a tan now?
<4> ...or are we talking in a curative sense, like tanning hides.
<6> Dagmar: you'd need too read some of the bofh 2005 archive too understand
<6> what you do is spike ppls coffee with tanning tablets & then ring the appropriate authorities with a terrorist report several weeks on :)
<6> such authorities who never discriminate then remove said combatants for an interview
<4> Okay, this is why I stopped reading those british-written ones
<4> Someone with a tan doesn't neccessarily look like an arab
<6> Dagmar: they dont have too, they simply need too look different :)
<4> You guys must be even more monocultural than the bible belt in the US
<6> Dagmar: imnot in the united State of rectums :)
<4> Don't even start.
<4> Don't confuse the US gov't with the US citizens. They might as well be two separate races by now.
<6> Dagmar: do you know thwe difference between yogurt & australians?
<4> Less drunken carousing?
<6> nope yogurt has culture :)
<4> AH.
<4> Soviet Russia got rid of the KGB, the US gov't bought it on the cheap to go with the Apartheid.
<6> Dagmar: as for the citizens of usr,I go on what they are like by their postings too west aus newsgroups & the ones which come in here ranting about obsolete driver support :)
<4> Oh, that's not an accurate indicator
<4> There's just a really low barrier to entry on the Internet for morons in the US.
<4> Seoul is just as connected, but you don't see 'em because they don't all pretend to speak English.
<4> You've seen the new AOL commercials, I presume?
<4> The ones where AOL proudly inserts completely boring, talentless people into professional events where they have absolutely no business being in the first place?
<4> That about sums it up.
<8> hi!
<8> anyone knows what's is TIMER_MAGIC (defined at include/linux/timer.h) ?
<9> morning
<4> Why, it's magic, of course. ;)
<8> rtlinux show a warning
<8> because MAGIC != value
<10> Hi people! I need some sort of virtual serial driver for linux to make an USB device apear as a serial device to the host software. I've checked kernel sources and found USB serial driver. This driver creates /dev/ttyUSBx devices. Is this what I'm looking for?
<8> tiny: yeah
<8> tiny: look major/minor numbers and use mknod
<10> donLatino: I can see that there is specific hardware support for diferent devices under that menu. Will I need to support mine and why do we need this support if USB is standard. Shouldn't converting from USB to serial and vice versa be simple then?
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