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<0> bobbens: I'll do my research and see what I can come up with on google. I have a lot of learning to do.
<1> I would think that would be user-space
<0> infi: do you have a direct link?
<1> google does
<0> infi: alrighty
<0> infi: I found a heck of a lot of kernel module ethics threads while googling..
<1> well, this all sounds like they implemented it via HTTP and HTTP cookies. that's application layer. while there is a kernel httpd, mostly the kernel lies at a layer far below that which would be appropriate for this... I dunno if I would risk system/kernel instability to switch calls to hold :)
<1> there's lots of other kernel projects to work on though :)
<1> but you can really do it however ya like. http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
<2> didnt sound like a kernel project to me, but people do things in such wierd ways :)
<0> infi: good point. The kernel module solution for this application is exotic because eventually I can build a kernel just for this task... and put it on a seperate machine to be as robust as possible.
<0> that's my fantasy stability platform... no code to be insecure ouside of kernel code... because the OS is just a kernel.
<2> you can always use chroot jails and the works which can make it just as secure
<0> bobbens: that's true too. I like chroot jails.
<0> bobbens: the #perl channel has me checking out poe.perl.org for a solution...
<2> i havent done perl, so i would do that in python, but of course thats personal preference
<0> bobbens: I really don't have a preference.... initially I though it was a PHP suited task... till I realized I didn't want to have to trigger it with a SMS text message from my cell phone... to have procmail trigger the PHP script to run...
<0> bobbens: and then since I didn't know PERL too well I figured... eh... just build it into your kernel... that way when you turn on the computer you'll see the service start and you'll know it's working.
<1> erm, the service can run as a user-space service, too, and still start at boot :)
<1> no reason to run it in supervisor mode with full access to hardware...
<1> do you know C?
<2> ive made my own sort of daemon like that (which i regret not turning into a kernel module), but initscripts work fine. Main reason id like to have a kernel module is since it is hardware interfacing, i'd feel more comfortable that way, but since it was a big rewrite i just left it that way
<0> infi: yes I know some C
<0> infi: what's wrong with user-space service? sounds good to me
<1> k, well, it can be a user-space C program, too, then ;)
<0> infi: you guys are like the coach I never had
<1> nothing would be wrong with user-space, we're all saying it would be better suited for this I think
<0> ;)
<0> hmm... think I can keep a framebuffer on VT2 or VT3 to show the output of the app??? basically put my GUI on VT2 or VT3??? that's still cool in userspace right?
<1> yeah, just disable getty on that vty (from /etc/initttab) and write your output there.
<3> do the kernel
<0> infi: I figure I want to watch the debugging code realtime... is there a better way than through framebuffer?
<1> dunno
<1> this really sounds like you're making it more complex than it has to be :)
<0> probably.
<0> It's like putting a tiny little present in a big box with a fancy ribbon and bow.
<1> but I don't know their app, so I'm just rendering a guess
<1> I'd say it's more like designing a ferrari to drive you back and forth to work down the street :)
<0> lol
<0> silliness
<4> can anyone point me somewhere where i can read about the 8254, rtc, and HPET (timers).. i'm trying to form distinctions between them all and figure out which my laptop has
<4> axp earlier said that since it's an intel chip, it should have an HPET but i enabled HPET and i get: Using tsc for high-...
<4> i dont know what tsc is, so i'm at a loss.
<5> Why would ACPI stop informing acpid when the power button is pressed after resuming from a software suspend to disk? (It works before software suspend.)
<6> i have a pata controller that i nkow works with linux (since i have managed to install linux using a live cd on a drive attatched to it). How can i find out exactly what module i need to support it? i tried crosschecking output from lspci -v and lsmod after booting from the LiveCD, but i cant seem to make the connection.
<6> the chip on the controller is labeled Silicon Image SiI0649CL160, and it supports raid 1/0
<4> k, cat /proc/cpuinfo doesnt show apic
<4> so i shouldnt enable apic or i/o-apic right?
<4> allo?
<4> can someone tell me why i would need to enable "Legacy Power Management API"?
<4> i know it says if unsure say Y, but i want to know why
<3> marik_, because some programs use this interface
<3> older programs
<3> and it doesnt really do any harm
<4> like which?
<3> dunno
<3> older programs
<4> ..
<3> like older kde and gnome power management applets
<4> lol
<4> ah, that it?
<3> well its not like i notice what program use an older interface
<4> i dont use either GNOME nor KDE
<3> well you still might run into a program which use it
<3> its just an interface
<4> how can i identify a program that uses it?
<3> it wont make your kernel slower or anything,, and you want have worse power management
<3> turn it off and see what complains
<3> why is it so important ??
<4> chn, just bugging me is all
<4> what about inotify?
<4> what uses inotify that i would need it?
<4> why would i need "Support old ALSA API" ?
<7> anyone awake and has any knowledge of kernel patch with IPW3945 Intel Wireless Adapter?
<8> marik_: who said you need it?
<4> gb it's turned on by default
<8> marik_: read the help, it's on by default for legacy apps that rely on it no doubt
<4> i'll disable it then
<7> anyone on ipw3945?
<8> tolkan: dont repeat asking the same question, if you want help try & give some specifics of an issue you might be having including kernel versions, what you've tried, etc
<8> even if I did have such an adaptor, i'd be unwilling too help sumone who was trying too get help by polling a channel
<4> heh
<4> on high gb?
<8> ey?
<4> nothin
<4> check this out: http://rtg.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/fileadmin/user_upload/publications/sa-wiet.pdf
<7> gb: i don't mean to poll, but i'm sort of clueless of who to go and talk to. IPW3945 source came with a patch_kernel script that includes the source in the target kernel. during make, the kernel comes back with random build errors. ones that don't point to much.
<4> lol
<8> No Lamer hunting please
<4> i just configured 2.6.16-gentoo-r7
<4> whatever that translates to
<8> I probably spend more time configuring the I do compiling,by readsing through each help bit for new code in order too avoid gotchyuh hung systems, etc
<8> too date the approach has worked well except for the rapidly evolving kernel which sees me a whole series behind by the time I have a kernel compiled
<4> ya same.
<4> normally i'll take the "if unsure, ..." part on faith, but recently i've really been trying to go through them all and figure out what they're for and why i'd need them
<8> I certainly dont want support for pci cards, etc which wouldrequire areboot too install, but anything thats plug n pray I like too have modules for
<4> time to boot into my new kernel
<7> thanks for your help gb, as you have proved my waste of time explaining my problem to an empty room.
<9> Your time is clearly so very precious.
<7> i don't spend my time idling in 'nix chat rooms. So yes, i would consider it precious.
<9> Yeah, well, to me your problem screams "I don't know how to build my own kernel" along with "I lack social graces".
<8> tolkan: idlingin chat rooms is mypreference too polling chatrooms
<8> Dagmar: lets keep it kernel related & not feed the trolls :)
<9> Okay, I'll amend that to simply say "Your RAM is broken".
<9> Build errors that are random are pretty much always bad RAM.
<7> how about some constructive comments?
<9> Get memtest86.
<7> oh, **** you.
<8> Dagmar: nah user error, replace user & punch a key too continue or is that punch user & replace keyboard?
<9> I think the latter.
<9> He really had some ego tied up in his RAM. I wonder if he was overclocking.
<8> nothing wrong with overclocking, especially if your machine is in siberia or Antarctica :)
<9> Why he'd get so upset about the possibility of bad RAM is beyond me.
<1> free help didn't come fast enough
<10> hello
<10> is there any library to convert hex to decimal ?
<10> anybody ?
<1> a library?
<10> or is there any library function avl in glibc ?
<10> infi ?
<1> printf("%d\n", 0xFFFF);
<10> i have a hex number as a string
<10> i want to convert it into dec
<10> like atoi
<10> is there any library function ?
<1> ah, well, not in the standard library. you can write one fairly easily.
<1> actually, maybe scanf/sscanf/etc. might do it.
<9> bugger. There are functions for that but I can't remember them to save my life right now
<1> http://www.rocketaware.com/text/convert/integer/
<1> scanf has a few problems though, read the corresponding entry.
<9> If you wanted to be really retarded about it, you could use the name resolution functions.
<9> So long as your address isn't longer than say, 16 octets, they'll take hex now.
<9> People might frown on that use of socket functions tho. ;)
<9> s/socket/inet/;
<11> anyone who knows kernel programming,please help me
<1> http://nanocrew.net/2005/10/03/despair-linux/ <- Despair posters about various Linux distros (work-safe except for Ubuntu link)
<9> That ubuntu one is almost post-modern in that sense.
<9> "Why yes, looking at cleavage is perfectly acceptable in the office" or somesuch. Heh
<9> Honestly, when I saw that GDM screen I never even thought twice about the fact that I was staring down a woman's shirt
<9> Dunno if that's a bad sign or a sign of "maturity"
<1> yeah, ironic there :)
<1> that's Jon Johansen's (of DeCSS fame) blog, by the way. just ran across it.
<11> hey, can anyone help to solve my kernel program
<12> infi: hey sorry to bother you but how do i set an ip on a eth device using ioctl
<12> no docs online ,, well a lot but only releted problems not mine
<1> no, not exactly. there is a chapter in LDD3 on network devices, however.
<1> and in the LKI
<1> you can also use strace on ifconfig to see how it works.
<12> hmm hmmmm
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