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<0> 8139 chipset for nics is a good example :)
<1> Hey, they work so long as you don't expect, like, anything above 80% max throughput. ;)
<2> dagmar, any other usb device i have tried works fine tho
<1> I've gotten more than a few of those realtek's. Never once used the driver from realtek. Most of them worked fine, except under load.
<2> web cam, headset, mouse... even the lcd monitor hub works
<1> biohazrd: Here's the test of it tho... Does it actually work under Windows with the Windows-supplied drivers?
<1> Card readers aren't supposed to be complex devices. Typically they're going to conform to usb removable disk standards.
<1> If they don't, they're usually trash.
<2> good question.. i dont have native windows
<1> I'd take it to a department store or something and plug it in (be discreet, they can be paranoid about that)
<2> vmware on xp probably would be a bad test



<2> haha
<1> ...or if you have another USB thumb drive or something, and *that* works, your hardware is probably non-compliant.
<1> ...or you've horribly, horribly screwed up the usb.ids file
<2> Dagmar I think you are on to something
<1> I have a lot of USB stuff
<2> its a combo fan controller/cardreader
<1> Most of it, horrifyingly cheap. Bought at prices that practically scream "This is cheap because it's crap"
<1> That's is bizarre
<1> Very likely it's just a non-compliant device. Someone probably had a chip to control fans and tacked on the reader controller.
<1> But I'd take it to a department store or something where they have demo units and test it.
<2> http://www.thermaltake.com/accessories/a2259hardcano13/a2259hardcano13.htm
<1> Windows and Macs are supposed to be able to read removable USB disks without any special stuff being loaded. It should work without it asking for a driver, if the thing uses the removeable drive spec
<2> Dagmar, its to hard to take out and do that... unless they dont mind me opening up their case :)
<1> If it asks for a driver, I'd just abandon worrying about it.
<1> No, they'll have demo units in most electronics stores.
<1> Machines just sitting there running, usually with USB ports right on the front.
<2> it came with a driver cd, so my guess is that you are right that it is non-compliant
<1> You can generally get less insane ones very cheaply.
<2> it doesnt have standard plug, only ends for mobo usb header
<1> NewEgg's been pretty aggressive about certain things lately, so I wound up getting a 1Gb SDcard from them for like, $20USD (no joke) and another USB SDcard reader for $9.
<1> It *looks* like something you'd get out of one of those little vending machines at a grocery store or mall, the housing is so cheap, but it works.
<1> OH
<1> Jeez. Make 100% sure it's actually pinned correctly.
<2> i should grab my wifes Zio reader, i know those work
<1> There's no such thing as a "standard" USB header on a motherboard.
<1> I've seen at least three different pin configurations for them.
<1> You probably have two of the wires crossed or something like that
<2> I double checked that to, cuz i thought i might have got one wrong.. but i will triple check
<2> can i hot plug them?
<2> or should i shut down
<1> If the words to describe what the lines do don't match exactly (because some people like to say "neutral" when they mean "ground" and so on) then the documentation on them might even be wrong
<1> You can hotplug anything USB
<2> so i can pull plugs on the mb headers and move stuff around while its running?
<1> It's just not such a good idea to be working on that sort of thing with it powered up
<1> yeah
<2> k
<2> ill pull it in the morning when i have a fresh head
<1> Good idea. Too many mistakes are made in the wee hours of the morning for people who aren't on 3rd shifts
<2> yah like me forgeting to enable /dev/mapper when i rebuilt my kernel an hour ago
<2> had to load the live cd chroot and recompile it
<1> Ouch. You know about recycling .config files, right?
<2> then i forgot to change gcc profile, so when i booted, nvidia.ko bitched
<1> yech. gcc.



<2> i normally copy .config to another file
<1> I've blown about two hours today poking at the pro-police patches. It's got me very not wanting to look at gcc again for awhile
<2> and load the alternative file, but i just went to raid so i copied the old file back that didnt have it setup
<1> Ah
<2> like you said, dumb things happen late at night
<2> i appreciate your help tho
<2> i am going to go over the pin configurations one more time, if that does not work i think you are right about it being a compatibility issue
<2> I recall the instructions for windows said you had to install the driver cd
<2> i could try it out on vmware with XP
<1> If it was talking about that with respect to use of the fan controller, fine. If it was talking about that with respect to using the card reader, and it's *not* talking about Win98, then it's likely not using the removable disk spec
<2> cant find the manual atm, but i am gonna load it in vmware for giggles
<2> Dagmar: its got a driver for XP and 2000
<1> not a wonderful sign
<2> doest find the device right to install in vwmare tho.. ventrue to say its an emulation issue
<2> just my bad luck i guess
<2> Dagmar: again, thank you. Take care
<3> hi folx
<0> no thedruggies are down the corridor
<4> how to fix stuff like
<4> In file included from scripts/mod/../../include/linux/input.h:18,
<4> from scripts/mod/file2alias.c:40:
<4> scripts/mod/file2alias.c:34: error: previous declaration of '__u8' was here
<4> /mnt/hdc2/kernel_work/work-2.6.16.17/include/asm/types.h:14: error: redefinition of typedef '__u8'
<4> i had even to link asm-i386 to asm, weird
<4> cause i aint got a asm/socket.h anywhere
<5> may be you include some file which includes it?
<6> i guess there is two variables what have a same name
<4> dunno C that well
<4> if i comment the typedef's out, i get other big errors on another place
<7> is there any info on the power management API? I've googled , and found references to stuff like "pm_register()", but i think it's deprecated now..
<7> i'm only trying to get one of my driver's functions called when the user try to suspend
<8> stupid question, but anyway I need to know the answer... if I have a P4 processor with EM64T support what kind of processor should I choose in the processor type into the kernel?
<9> EM64T = X86-64
<9> same thing to the kernel
<0> ccamacho: it makes little difference what type of processor you have, even a 32bit kernel or one compiled for 386sx will work on it
<8>
<0> what matters is the lowest spec you need the kernel too run on because kernels compiled specifically for 64bit arch's wont operate on lower archs
<0> ie something compiled for a PIII will not operate on a 486 or 386sx
<0> bah
<8> can anybody help me with my question?
<10> Hi all. I am not able to compile my sample device driver that i wrote.. I have the source tree compiled and installed at /usr/src/
<10> I run a 2.6.16 kernel
<10> It keeps saying No rule to make though I have a makefile put up :(
<11> i'm trying to compile a 2.6.16 kernel on an i686 with the processor type set as 386, yet repeatedly uname -a tells me i'm running i686. is there any sort of 'processor detection override' of some sort that might be happening here? i don't have another 2.6.16 kernel on the machine at all so i don't know why i'm getting this result.
<12> hi all!
<11> hi aXp
<12> hay delire
<12> ?
<11> .. pretty quiet around here
<12> jop!
<13> hi


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