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<0> why shall i have a lot of swap when i have lot of memory?
<0> does it have something to do with over-committing?
<1> the multiple-of-RAM rule is usually a load of crap for most configs
<2> Hi all, I'm just messing about with some LKM coding and..I'm running slackware 10.2 with kernel version 2.4.31 and im just wondering why theres no linux/symtable_begin.h file in the includes
<1> figure out what ceiling value you want, subtract how much RAM you have
<1> the only exception if if you want suspend-to-RAM, in which case you need at least as much swap as DRAM
<1> h3x3m: probably because most of the LKM guides focus on 2.6 kernels
<1> h3x3m: 2.4 is old. it's stable, and people use it for servers, but for the most part it's not relevant to be learning anymore (at least IMHO)
<2> kumquat: Okay thanks, ill compile a new kernel then
<1> :)
<1> 2.6 is far more fun. heh.
<2> I take it 2.6.15 is the way to go
<1> more or less.
<1> depending what you're doing with it... I use -ck
<3> hi there
<3> I have a debian box (PIV 3.0 Ghz 1GB ram) and it has a 2.35 load average. When doing a "top" I can see that there aren't any high cpu-consuming processes. The ones that take most cpu time are sshd and top (obviously). How can I diagnose what is causing that 2.X load ? Theoretically that means there are more than 2 processes waiting for CPU time, but no one is using it. Is this correct ? Thanks in advance
<4> I hope you guys can help me out. I use IPCop. It's a firewall distribution but it doesn't contain any build tools. So I built a kernel for it on another box. When I finished I copied the kernel, the config file, the System.map and the modules directory to the target box.
<4> But when I run depmod I get a huge lot of unresolved symbol errors.
<4> And kernel modules can't be inserted at boottime. Does anyone have a clue what might be the cause of this?
<5> GutterPunk: unless it's debian or you have some clue about what you are doing it wont work
<4> gb, could you please explain why this won't work? or what are my options?
<4> I thought I had a clue...
<5> When you build akernel you need too take into account the libraries on both your build machine & the one it is going too run on. If they differ best case scenario is you will get a few warnings & everything works, worst case scenario it wont even boot let alone load modules because of unresolved symbols amongst other things
<4> gb, is this a glibc issue?
<5> glibc is but one stumbling block amongst many
<5> if you caninstall distcc & the equivalent too build essential on the box, you can build it nsatively using the cpu cycles of another box or if it's debian you can build it with debian's make-kpkg and install it using dpkg
<4> gb, so the only option I'm left with is building IPCop entirely from scratch?
<5> dunno never used it, might just be easier too get latest iso of ircop if you're so wrapped in it
<4> gb, well I have a debian box. if only the firewall would have the tools to install dpkg's
<5> GutterPunk: Why dont you do debian on both?
<4> gb, the latest iso is 1.4.10, but it doesn't have the patches I need. And I wouldn't expect them anytime soon.
<5> r you not up too speed on using debian yet?
<4> gb, I like debian a lot. IPCop just isn't a real distro. It's just dedicated to firewalling
<4> hehe
<5> impossible too find good help nowadays
<5> tried any of the others, my bro uses smoothwall here
<5> he's not entirely concerned about it's age though
<5> why do you see it essential too break it?
<4> gb, has smoothwall got means to create a custom kernel? Cause IPCop lacks ALL the build tools
<4> gb, I need the L7-filter patch applied to it
<5> no idea, my brother uses it, I use sid/woody
<4> I need to enable the distro to use application level filtering. It's part of my thesis project
<5> imalso unconcerned about the latest & greatest patches because im disconnected from internet for 3-9months at a time
<4> But I'm already stuck doing the preparations... :s
<4> I see :)
<4> So you think my only option is building this whole damn IPCop thing from scratch all over again? One thing I'll add to the LFS dir is the damn build tools. Hope I don't leave one out
<5> GutterPunk: you want a build dist try bluewall
<5> araujo is it's author & he started with lfs for the same reason
<5> he got pissed off with all the dists having all the extra crap without build tools
<4> gb, but he hasn't got a firewall :)
<5> gee your so fussy, neither has lfs :P
<4> Sigh... Promised myself I wouldn't sleep before I got this figured out... By now it's already 4:18AM... I
<4> C ya later, I'm off to bed :)
<6> I'm having a problem with a new driver's interrupt not being called. If someone could just check to make sure there's no glaring mistakes... it's for a machine that's not mainline yet
<6> (I'm very much a kernel noob)
<6> http://oe.reversefold.com/sharpsl-rc.patch
<5> how do you know this?
<6> because the printk doesn't get called (AFAIK)
<6> then again...perhaps printk isn't allowed
<6> probably not, now that I think of it
<5> ok how about /proc/interrupts ?
<5> thats a better indication of whether interrupts are occurring
<6> hmmm...I hadn't checked that
<6> nope, not happening
<5> is your device listed there?
<6> yes
<5> 0?
<6> 45: 0 sharpsl_rc
<5> uhuh try different io or irq then or ascertain which device has stolen it's interrupt
<5> of course not knowing what kernel doesn't help much
<5> probably wouldn't help much if I did know though :)
<6> 2.6.15
<6> with lots and lots of patches
<5> but might help sumone else steer you in the right direction
<6> Richard Purdie's patches mostly for Zaurii
<5> ok heres the deal anything thats configured correctly will have an ascending irq in /proc/interrupts
<5> what you need too do is fix it so it does likewise :)
<6> i.e. when I press a button on my remote the # in /proc/interrupts should go up, right?
<6> well, Richard told me that the sound would steal the interrupt....but sound is in a module and I moved those modules away...
<5> yup everytime the device is used
<6> but if the module isn't loaded it shouldn't steal the IRQ, right?
<5> theoretically
<6> (and I have rebooted a few times...)
<6> I understand that
<6> very much so
<6> I was just making sure that the sound module wasn't taking the IRQ
<5> tried a different kernel?
<6> I found the call that should be taking the IRQ in the sound code and it's not listed in /proc/interrupts, so that's good
<6> what do you mean by a different kernel?
<5> it very well could be either a kernel config issue or actual feature of the kernel you are using
<6> I can't use stock kernels for this device
<5> note I did not say bug :)
<6> heh
<6> well...this code *is* somewhat derived from the Embeddiz kernel code for an old 2.4 kernel...::shudder::
<6> that stuff is scary
<5> not the first time an identical config on a different kernel earlier or later will work
<5> possibly some of the features were generated in the derivation :)
<6> BTW, just for my info, does printk work in an IRQ functioN?
<6> gb: rest well, thanks for the help
<7> hi i have problem compiling the ipaq driver from synce
<7> it cannot find the usb-serial.h in /usr/src/linux/driver/usb/serial
<7> there are no files expect a Makefile and Kconig
<8> hi, does the 2.4.31 kernel need to load hotplug if /dev/udev is not needed?
<9> Jack-Bauer,
<9> dude
<9> nooooooooooooooo :)
<5> yup
<9> gb, dude sup :)
<9> Pentiums 775 socket are all 32 bit right
<9> ?
<5> yes please always open too supper :)
<9> gb, :(
<9> :)
<5> don't ask me questions about hardware I cant possibly afford :)
<9> gb, :)
<9> no problem LOL
<5> remember my computers are recovered landfill machines
<5> oh no where?
<9> gb, i miss my amd64 i sold it :)
<5> uhuh
<5> just ask linus for one, he throws them away regularly
<9> gb, now my an8 fatal1`ty sta @ my home about 8 months as souvonire
<9> hahahahaha gb :) u think he will give me one LOL
<5> _RADIOhead: at the lca about 80% of the audience volunteered too be recipients of his used machines :)
<5> why you keep up the lamer mating call?
<9> gb, talk more simple with me , u know my english is not so good :)
<9> i did not understand : nothing :P
<5> you hunting lamers at the moment with lol?
<5> lol==LamerOnLine==maing call for other Lamers
<5> arrgh mating rather
<9> hahhahahahhahaha
<9> hahhahahaha
<5> thought maybe you were being like the duck hunters with their duck calls, trying too lure them into the open before you took a shot
<10> and shot your friend...
<9> ;P
<5> freind?
<5> Everyone knows this bofh has no friends :)
<10> at least nobody is asking you to fix their computers anymore ;)
<9> :)
<5> ahh it worked _RADIOhead you got one CTCP VERSION reply from tweak_st: mIRC v6.12
<9> hahhaha
<5> if only what tweak_st said was true
<5> I might not have my migraine thumping like it is
<9> damn internet
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