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<0> Hi everyone
<0> quick question, what is the best IDE to use for browsing through the kernel source? and is there any good GUIDES on linux kernel development?
<1> hmm
<1> i could actually answer that
<2> http://www.avemetal.com ! :)
<3> i'm a NEWBIE running debian gnu/linux sarge 2.6.8-3 on a laptop P133 80MB RAM and everything work OK except the wireless cards. whenever i insert a card in the pcmcia slots i get : cs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power
<3> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/powerbugs.html has NO newbie friendly fix for sarge!
<4> What compiler do I need to compile Linux-2.4.26?
<4> I have been trying very hard with no success. I have tried both gcc 2.95.3 and 3.4.5
<4> Neither can compile the kernel (from kernel.org).
<5> floyy@bitch:~$ cat /proc/version
<5> Linux version 2.4.31 (root@tree) (gcc version 3.3.5) #6 Sun Jun 5 19:04:47 PDT 2005
<5> last stable I think in 2.4.*
<4> I can compile 2.4.30 fine.
<4> Its 2.4.26 that won't work.
<4> I suppose ill just have to write a shell script to download and compile every gcc in existance until it finds the one that works?
<4> It has something to do with a fastcall macro.
<4> A function will have fastcall in one place, but not in another, the compiler notices this and errorrs.
<4> Ill try it with 3.2.2 next, as I just installed it.
<4> If that doesnt work I suppose ill give 3.3.5 a shot...
<4> nope, gcc-3.3.5 won't work either...
<4> Is it even possible to compile 2.4.26?
<4> hmmm... the README file says to use 2.95.3
<4> For what reasons wouldn't a kernel compile with the default options with the compiler version the README says to use?
<4> you see, we have "extern void FASTCALL(smp_send_reschedule(int cpu));" on line 29 of include/linux/smp.h
<4> yet, we have extern void smp_send_reschedule(int cpu); on line 42 of include/asm/smp.h
<5> step by step
<5> ;)
<5> linux from scretch :)
<4> floyy: are you telling me to modify the kernel source code by hand?
<4> someone must have got this thing to compile at some point...
<5> no
<5> I am telling you , you are not install somethin propertly..
<4> floyy: I had to install gcc by hand because gentoo won't let me install gcc-2.95.3
<5> i dunno where is mistake
<4> I spent several hours working on it before and couldn't figure it out, so I got the 2.95.3 source code and compiled and installed it to /opt/gcc-2.95.3
<4> Someone in ##Linux told me all I have to do it make CC=/opt/gcc-2.95.3/bin/gcc dep bzImage.
<4> Is this wrong?
<5> i dunno
<5> I never had that mistake
<4> floyy: how do you select the compielr to use?
<5> what kind of question is that ?
<4> floyy: What kinds of questions exist?
<4> I wasn't aware that there was more than one type...
<5> mkdir /usr/src/gcc-build;cd /usr/src/gcc-build/gcc-2.95.2/configure --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/src/include/g++ \ --enable-shared --enable-languages=c,c++
<3> i'm a NEWBIE running debian gnu/linux sarge 2.6.8-3 on a laptop P133 80MB RAM and everything work OK except the wireless cards. whenever i insert a card in the pcmcia slots i get : cs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power
<5> make bootstrap
<3> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/powerbugs.html has NO newbie friendly fix for sarge!
<5> make install
<5> ;)
<4> floyy: how does it avoid overwritting your old gcc?
<5> rm that pkg
<4> rm the old gcc?
<4> What if I need it?
<5> hmm
<5> you install new one
<6> spin_unlock_irqrestore ? what do this function ?
<7> hi, i know the kernel has support for my nforce mobo with audio etc... should I install the official driver from Nvidia?
<7> hi
<7> why is the 2.4 kernel still on developing while 2.6 is out?
<8> any sparc gurus around?
<8> i was hoping someone could explain why the lock is needed in atomic_set() on sparc ...
<9> because source is text, compiled is binary, binary uses more than double the character space not to say that it uses it better
<10> VIm_Enforcer: you dont compile everything, you optimize and machine code is generally much more compact then C code, read up on compiling on wikipedia
<11> hm
<11> but then, all the chars, they are converted into bytes
<11> so it should be the same
<11> nvm
<11> i'll read it up
<11> :)
<11> oh, i see
<9> no cos the for return; theres only 1 byte
<10> no, you have to interprete the C code, read up itll probably be easier
<11> heh
<11> i see now
<11> my bad
<9> search on asm :-)
<11> it's not just simple char to byte conversion
<11> :)
<11> sorry to bug you with stupid questions :P
<11> ubra: :)
<10> and while you're at it search for other programming languages like brain**** or shakespear, which might teach you more bout compiling and such
<11> heh
<9> brain**** heheh ><>,.,.
<10> brain**** has really compact source code, but its completely illegible
<9> you mean the asm source
<9> cos there are some in perl and so
<9> oh, nevermind
<11> heh
<11> when i learn C i'll get to hacking the kernel
<9> thougth you meant the compiler
<11> :P
<10> get "The C Programming Language: Second Edition"
<10> good book to get started
<11> bobbens: yeap
<11> i'll find an ebook
<11> :)
<10> that one is one of the best, its a bit old but will get you making proper code, unlike th crap you can see slapped together online
<9> dont like 21 days C tutorials eh?
<11> my words
<11> 21 days c tuts for the lose!!!
<11> screw them
<11> you can't learn how to program in 21 days
<11> in any language
<11> except maybe for awk
<11> :P
<11> which rock, btw.
<11> s
<9> well i did for perl and php
<11> bobbens: http://www.fis.cinvestav.mx/~jccorona/manuales/ProgrammingLanguageAnsiC.pdf -- a quick solution :D
<9> in like 10 days or so.. knowing good C though
<11> ubra: ya, but did you MASTER them?
<11> you know programming only when you dream about making scripts
<11> ;)
<10> VIm_Enforcer: yeah thats the one i meant
<9> you mean by master? im not a web designer so i have no interest
<11> bobbens: heh, i know, saw it in bookshop
<9> i did some weather php page.. database and such..
<11> but it's kinda expensive
<10> this might be a bit offtopic for #kernel btw
<11> sorry
<10> VIm_Enforcer: i have a printed copy
<11> heh
<10> you might want to try ##C
<11> yes, yes, sorry
<11> goodbye, see yeo when i get into c
<12> hello all.
<12> I've some problem regarding sk98lin ver 8.31.2.3 and also the sk98lin on 2.6.16-r6
<12> I'm on DGE-530T and seem to be the vendor driver work...
<12> and I found some hint on the web saying I've to disable the sk98lin and make sky2 module?
<12> is that right?
<13> hi
<13> what cause "Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!" panic
<9> init tried to exit()
<9> you got that w/o messing with the kernel?
<9> paistis
<13> what is the w/o messing=
<13> problem is solved
<13> dram enhanced paging -> boot helps
<13> thaks ubra anyway
<14> Hey, I have some problems with my hard-drives, and I think it's kernel-related (but i'm not shure), I've looked at google, and found other persons with the same problem... but without a solution. Could someone read http://pastebin.com/715130 and give me some directions... tkx!
<9> with out messing..
<9> i dont think its solved
<9> you didnt add any modules to the kernel, hacked it in any way?
<14> I folllowed the gentoo-handbook and added nvidia drivers
<14> but the strange thing is... that I had the same problem with ubuntu
<8> sorry, to ask again: wondering if there are any sparc gurus here
<14> and still now with all my disk disconnected (exept one)
<8> i'm trying to understand why atomic_set() on sparc requires a lock
<13> ubra: dram enhanced paging -> boot
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