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<0> hola
<1> como esta?
<2> perfecto
<1> donde esta?
<0> bleh
<0> hey balrog-kun
<0> damn.
<2> en el hospital
<2> hi Stevie
<0> hey, question
<1> lo siento
<0> I'm still fighting my kernel on the total-rebuild-thingie
<0> what do you get if you do 'grep -c FORCE Makefile' ?
<1> i've never seen a noticeable improvement in the system after customizing the kernel
<2> Stevie: 28
<0> really
<0> and yet when you do 'make' it doesn't insist on rebuilding the whole damn kernel?
<2> i've often seen a noticeable improvement when the kernel didn't work before customizing it and did work after it
<2> Stevie: yup
<0> Prerequisite `FORCE' of target `scripts/mod/sumversion.o' does not exist.
<0> Must remake target `scripts/mod/sumversion.o'
<2> Stevie: does it say "GNU Make 3.80" when you do "make -v"?
<0> GNU Make 3.81rc1
<2> that's not it then
<2> try checking the modification date on scripts/mod/sumversion.o
<2> using stat or something
<0> you clearly missed this part
<0> Prerequisite `FORCE' of target `scripts/mod/sumversion.o' does not exist.
<2> that's probably a consequence of something else
<0> what do you mean?
<2> something totally unrelated at the first sight
<2> do you have a /etc/make.conf?
<0> nein
<2> keine ahnung
<0> you have exceeded the limits of my German
<2> == no idea
<0> I can put up paste output
<2> well
<2> i'd try making a simple Makefile on the same filesystem
<2> with one target depending on a second one and seeing if they are always remade
<3> my kernel module works
<0> congratulations?
<4> what's linux kernel's entry point for page fault?
<4> i mean, which function should I look at to begin understanding its page fault handler
<0> i'd look in the VM stuff
<0> hrm.
<5> yupexactly
<6> i get a strange message: usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
<6> usb 1-1: device not accepting address 5, error -71
<6> any idea?
<7> go deeper
<7> find out what does error -71 means
<7> go deeper than that
<6> don't find nothing on google
<7> find the code that generates that message
<7> look at the code
<7> find out who put that code there (maybe have to access that bitkeeper thing)
<7> BEFORE talking to that person, find out what docs s/he wrote
<7> look at those docs
<7> try to think about what you've read, draw conclusions
<7> try to apply them to your situation
<7> if that works, good enough... if and ONLY if not, contact the author
<6> thank, i don't really have time to loose with that...... will connec my usb stock on a windows machine, less trouble
<5> you have usb stock? Ibet it's value decreases with time :)
<5> marccollin: you have a user error, replace user & press a key too continue
<7> marccollin: then you won't be of help to someone trying to help you
<6> don't have time to loose, time is money, thanks to all
<7> "I don't really have time ... " GUESS WHAT? how much time do you think any of us tmie
<5> of course it has all the time in the world too maintain a me$$yd0$ systemtoo access some crappy usb device
<5> rather then configuring it's systemproperly too begin with yup I can see how thats more effective
<5> or having the time too even try & use crap hardware/protocols too begin with rather then using stuff thats fully functional
<5> yes time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so
<8> and no, i'm not a bot!
<8> gb: Rusty isn't the trivial patch monkey anymore.. someone else took over the job I think...
<0> you're not a bot?
<0> t
<8> hahah no
<8> ahhh Adrian Bunk is the new trivial patch monkey now
<5> cef: ahh ok
<5> cef: howdy doody anyhow? :)
<8> gb: how ya doin'?
<5> must be time for another caffiene injection
<5> ?I ask first :P
<8> not too bad.. t'was in japan for a week.. enjoyed myself immensely
<5> japan??
<8> oh yeah... especially that moustache he was sporting for a while
<8> yup
<5> wot nomoustache anymore?
<5> hewas quite proud of that I recall
<8> one of our suppliers is over there.. they had a conference thing that I went to.. paid for by them no less
<8> well, he's shaved it off a few times I think.. think it might be back now
<5> a junket jaunt ey?
<8> yeah. twas a good trip. fun and productive
<8> lots of alcohol was drunk *grin*
<5> tsk tsk
<8> as for rusty's moustache.. it's very "I'm here to clean the pool."... *grin*
<5> oh? when did you last see him?
<8> didn't see him this year.. last year at canberra.. can't remember if he had one then.. I think so
<8> I do remember him shaving it off once.. but I can't remember why
<5> I didn't see him at canberra
<5> mind you I was only there for a few hours
<5> wasn't overly impressed with the nations capital or the people who infested it
<5> mind you I feel that way pretty much about most of aus's city's & indeed most of its towns now
<8> heh
<5> guess thats why I spend majority of my life in deep bush away from beaurocrats & protagonists
<5> I think its the lemming factor
<5> aus was infected a few hundred years ago by this uk virus & hasn't been able too shake it since
<5> but this aint relevant too #kernel, so off too get more caffiene
<9> which kernel option do I have to change to module to have the usbserial module?
<5> Renacor: how long is a piece of string?
<9> as long as you can get it :)
<9> now how can I make the usbserial module work?
<5> the same way you judge the length of string
<5> open your eyes & have a look
<9> hey thats not fair, I answered your question and now you know how long a piece of string is
<5> instead of joining irc &asking vague questions
<9> what a ripoff
<9> heh
<5> the exact location within the config & name of a module varies fromkernel too kernel & given the large amount of information you've provided you have your answer, go & look for yourself
<5> I recommend everything usb related be made a module
<9> thanks
<5> theres a whole menu devoted too usb crap so if you make everything within a module you should be ok
<5> of course dont bother with devicedrivers not related too your particular hardware
<5> but even so building a module your not going too use will only increase compile/link time by a few minutes & consume a bit of diskspace
<5> the trick is too configure your system too load the correct modules as needed
<10> Is it possible to acquire hardware information through the kernel? Specifically, I'm looking for the type of RAM a computer has (e.g. PC3200, PC4000, etc).
<5> umm there are perl scripts that interrogate proc, etc but the actual consistency of a cpu/ram which determines, it's speed is really only detected by running various tests on it which are not always accurate anyway
<5> ie theres no sure way of knowing
<5> you have too rely on what the manufacturer tells you via any id on the hardware if any at all
<0> isn't there some i2c prog in lm-sensors that can interrogate those chips?
<5> umm if im not mistaken all lm-sensors does is grep proc for certain id's
<5> if you know the id you are looking for you should be able too confirm it by greping proc in a similar fashion
<5> unfortunately many people have no idea of what they are looking for which is where lm-sensors comes in by providing that human/computer interface
<5> I found hinv.pl is quite handy but I dont recall it identifying ram, just pci/isa based stuff mainly
<11> Hello. Can I get the `syscalls.master' file directly, _without_ downloading the entire source archive?
<11> Does Linux even have a `syscalls.master'??
<9> anybody know why I would get this error message when trying to use pppd "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid argument" ?
<7> sounds like a capability issue
<7> you doing pppoe?
<7> or what device?
<7> ok, no response...
<7> I'll probably be around in an hour or three...
<12> is anyone not able to grab the latest 2.6 snapshot using cogito with rsync?
<12> i try cg-init rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git and it keeps saying that its Missing object of tag [kernel version]
<5> bons: you taking a poll?
<12> gb: i'm sorry?
<5> yes you probably should be
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