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<0> cat /dev/kmsg displays the same messages that dmesg, but only from the point when you started reading
<0> s,dev,proc,
<1> how do you mean "only from the point when you start reading" ?
<0> for example if you ran "cat /proc/kmsg" and your harddisk dies after that, the message about it will appear, but not if it happened before you executed it
<1> so, if I start cat bla after the eror happend then I wont see it
<1> but if I start it before I will see the error?
<1> Does cat refreshes itself?
<0> if you run "cat /proc/kmsg >> log" and leave it running for all the installation, log will contain everything that happened during the install
<1> Well, then I will try that
<1> cause that would be exacly what I need :)
<0> provided the installer uses the kernel logger
<0> i.e /proc/kmsg has only the same messages that get logged to dmesg
<1> okey
<1> but that should be sufficient
<0> no output from all possible commands and stuff
<1> No, its fine
<1> all I need is that information :)
<1> TnQ
<1> I will try
<0> :)
<1> if it does NOT work I will come back
<1> otherwise I thank you with these words "youre my hero for today"
<0> ok, let's hope you don't come back :p
<1> ;)
<1> ciao!
<1> srry :P
<1> It worked...buutttttttttt there is a but
<1> If cat is loggin all the info......I blocks my console input (cause cat is busy)
<1> how can i exit cat-mode?
<1> balrog-kun, ?
<0> maybe try (cat /proc/kmsg >> log)&
<0> i don't know what shell your installer is using
<0> can't you open another shell?
<1> hwat does that do?
<0> puts cat into background
<1> well, wacit a sec
<1> does not matter anyway
<0> same as if you pressed ^Z and typed "bg"
<1> I have also a hang problem so that I cannot do anything
<1> so in fact I just have to log directly to tha harddisk so a reboot does not matter
<1> ahhh
<1> but of course /dev/hda5/lod does not werk
<1> but I dont have time to mount
<1> any idea?
<1> *log
<1> cause logging to the ram is not usefull if a second afther the error you have to reboot cause the system hangs :)
<0> why not mount?
<0> you can do cat /proc/kmsg >> /dev/hda5 but it will destroy the filesystem
<0> i mean cat /proc/kmsg > /dev/hda5
<1> why does it destroy the filesystem,?
<1> I got the msg that it 'was not a directory'
<1> when i tried /dev/hda5.log
<0> because /dev/hda5 is not a directory
<1> when i tried /dev/hda5/log
<0> it's a device node
<1> I know, bit you say that it is possible
<0> it contains a filesystem, but you can write the log to it, thus replacing the filesystem
<0> why not mount the filesystem instead?
<1> becuse I will be to late for cat
<0> you cannot create a file on an unmounted filesystem
<1> pfiew
<1> seems that i have to modify the pre-install
<0> why not mount, say, /dev/hda6 before running cat?
<0> (use the -o sync option)
<1> yeas, but ATM i ask how to pause the install, that wuld give me time to mount and cat after
<1> otherwise all the problems will happen before I have given the cat-command
<1> kill -STOP
<1> and kill -CONT
<0> do that in the emergency shell
<0> mount && cat
<1> mount /dev/hda5 /oldroot && bla bla
<1> I have some options now
<1> :S
<1> conclusion: you have to type FAST :)
<1> mount /dev/hda5 /oldroot && cat /prec/kmsg >> log
<1> mount /dev/hda5 /oldroot && cat /prec/kmsg >> /oldroot/log
<1> darn
<0> mount -o sync will help to avoid fs errors when it hangs
<1> yeah, but that would really be to much
<1> I trust the fixer :)
<1> otherwise..no fatal info on dev5
<1> hda5
<2> is there a way to recompile only the source modules that have changed in the linux kernel instead of every module everytime i do a make modules ?
<0> that's what make should do, it should avoid recompiling things that haven't changed, by default
<2> it doesn't
<2> not in the kernel anyway
<2> ****ing rebuilds the entire thing everytime
<0> unless you do "make clean" everytime too
<0> try "make" instead of "make modules"
<3> greetings
<1> w0000000000000000tttttttt
<1> TnQ balrog-kun
<1> I have the log :)
<3> are you going to cut it into timber and build a tree fort with it?
<1> yep
<1> ;)
<1> enought w0000000t for 2 castles and a fort :p
<1> ;)
<0> :)
<4> Hi, im using a ULi M1689 chipset, but for some reason i cant get LAN or AGP to work. I heard this was a problem up until 2.6.11 came out which was said to support it all. But im still having major problems with agpgart and ethernet controler not being detected properly
<4> im using 2.6.12 now
<3> no idea
<3> is there any way to *not* need to recompile every single file when I run make?
<4> hmm
<4> oh dear, turns out the patches werent included in 2.6.11 when it was released
<4> swine
<0> Stevie-O: this is the whole purpose of make
<3> no, that is not the purpose of make
<3> in fact, that's kinda the opposite of the purpose of make :)
<0> you'd use a normal script otherwise
<3> in fact
<0> make on my current tree takes 5 seconds
<3> I shall quote from the beginning of 'man make(1)'
<3> DESCRIPTION
<3> The purpose of the make utility is to determine automatically which pieces of a large program
<3> need to be recompiled, and issue the commands to recompile them.
<0> i wanted to quote the same fragment :)
<3> that's great for you
<3> make for me takes a lot longer
<3> because, as I said, it recompiles every single file -- not just the ones that actually need to be recompiled
<0> something is wrong with your toolchain then
<3> lovely. Any idea what?
<0> what filesystem is your tree on?
<0> make relies on file mdates
<0> i don't know what else
<3> I'm using some obscure filesystem called 'ext3' ;)
<0> oh, couldn't you use some more popular filesystem :)
<3> Maybe I should convert to cramfs
<0> oh yeah, or onionfs
<0> that's what you get for being an outsider
<3> hey, which kernel version is your tree?
<0> 2.6.16-r1
<3> if you run make on your tree, what are the first few output lines
<3> ?
<0> CHK include/linux/version.h
<0> make[1]: `include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.
<0> CHK include/linux/compile.h
<0> there are 6 lines of output alltogether
<3> http://rafb.net/paste/results/hFFbIS10.html
<0> what changes did you make between that and the previous make?
<5> anyone familiar with the slab allocator in the kernel?
<3> not really
<3> balrog-kun: No changes.
<3> I'm pretty sure it's related to the fact that it seems to want to re-do the config autosplit
<3> balrog-kun: When you run make, do you simply run 'make'? or do you specify something special?
<3> Prerequisite `FORCE' of target `scripts/basic/fixdep' does not exist.
<3> Must remake target `scripts/basic/fixdep'.
<0> oh
<0> no, i simply run make
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