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<0> hiya, I am trying to compile a kernel for a AMD k6-2 500mhz pc, but I also have a much newer system (1.8ghz) so is it possible I could configure the kernel on the old pc, but compile on the new, then copy it back to use on the old pc?
<0> its just that it takes a couple of hours to compile the kernel!
<1> fo shoa
<2> yes it's possible
<0> Lord-Voldemort, what about the modules tho? I know how to copy the kernel image over to /boot, but where do the modules go? ive been using the debian kernel-package thing to make it easier, but the faster system is fc4
<3> Hey, I was just wondering why net_device_stats still uses only 32bit values, and hasn't gone long long, or had additional stats as to not break the old tools using the 32bit values? It seems to me with GigE, this counter is verging on useless.
<4> hi people!
<4> i have some issues with booting from an external usb hdd
<5> smoo2: if you're familiar with nfs, you could just mount it on your slow machine and run make modules_install locally after the compile.
<5> But if you want to do it manually, they're normally in /lib/modules/$KERNEL_VERSION
<0> SuN, yeah i have nfs between the 2 machines
<4> i have usb m*** storage compiled in etc... the boot results in a kernel panic as it can't find the root partition (/dev/sda2) right after that i see a console message that the usb hdd got mounted
<0> SuN, but the slow is the server!
<4> is this some timing issue ?
<5> smoo2: well, either set the other one up as a server too or just copy your kernel source to a share.
<5> It doesn't care much about where it resides.
<5> Be creative ;)
<0> SuN, but what I dont see is after the kernel compile, before i install it, where are the modules to copy to /lib/modules/kernel_versio
<5> All over the place, I wouldn't recommend installing them manually from the source tree.
<6> inter_module_get is deprecated and __symbol_get is not right... what should I be using ?
<6> is there a kernel hacking newbies channels somewhere?
<5> I'm having a small problem with usbhid: after boot, the module loads without errors, but my mouse connected to it won't work until I rmmod and modprobe the module again. I've tried all possible combinations to circumvent acpi (lapic, pci=noacpi, pci=biosirq) but I don't think it's related to that.
<5> I was wondering if anyone had a hunch as to what's wrong.
<5> Is usbhid picky about the order in which it's loaded in combination with other drivers?
<7> SuN: no idea if it'l work, but try compiling the modules as built in
<7> I found in the past with things like sound cards & file system drivers the same sorts of things would happen as modules but compiled in there'd be no issue, mind you it doesn't always fix it
<5> Tried that, same behaviour, unfortunately.
<7> just something else too try
<7> yup ok
<7> I have same issue with my pcmcia unfortunately
<5> That was one of the first things I tried... compiling in the UHCI driver and usbhid, so at least they'd be loaded in the order preferred by the kernel.
<7> need too restart the pcmcia before it loads everything properly
<5> :/
<5> It's annoying.
<5> And weird too, considering restarting isn't that different from the system loading it.
<7> why how often do you unplug, plug in devices?
<5> reloading the module I really mean, not restarting :)
<5> Well this is a laptop, so pretty often.
<7> hmm not my notebooks :)
<7> 09:06:04 up 30 days, 16:12, 25 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
<5> Heh
<5> Portable + uptime don't go too well together :)
<7> of course they do if you live in a car with solar panels on its roof :)
<5> Unless it continues counting after software suspend :P
<5> Hah, seriously?
<7> yup
<5> Wow :)
<7> unfortunately my network connectivity isn't as stable
<5> Depends on the neighborhood I guess?
<5> :)
<7> but at $100 a month for sat I aintr getting it anytime soon
<5> I'd say you're better off with some 3G service, sat has awful latency.
<7> SuN: umm where I usually live there are no roads let alone a 3g service
<7> dont stop the beaurocrats from annoying me though when a chopper spots me
<5> No roads but there are freeloadable wlans?
<7> umm not for thousands of k's
<5> So how do you access the internet?
<5> 56k from a car?
<7> I dont only access net for 3months of the year when south
<5> That's worse than dieing!
<7> rest of year no net access
<5> Or dying even.
<7> nah lotsa others things in the bush :)
<7> especially when its been a good monsoon
<7> last yer was poor because most of the billabongs n drains were dry as
<0> Hi I just compiled 2.6.15.3 on debian, I get a kernel panic, it says it cant mount /dev/hda1 and to append a valid root= option, but the options are correct, and work for other standard deb kernels!
<5> You sure you didn't just forget to build in your fs driver?
<0> well, its ext3
<0> im pretty sure its there, and I used the .conf from my previous working 2.6 kernel
<0> it complains about VFS
<8> that's usually missing filesystem
<0> humpf
<5> COuld be something like an ide driver as well.
<0> oh well, 5th time lucky!
<5> Is this PATA or SATA?
<0> pata
<0> old system
<0> amd k6-2
<5> Hm, can't think of anything that's changed for PATA.
<5> But you might want to do a make oldconfig just in case.
<0> well, im going to try compiling 2.6.15.4 on my newer pc and hopefully it wont take as long
<0> and then i will copy it over
<5> WTF 2.6.15.4
<5> Just when I finish building 2.6.15.3
<0> lol
<0> Ive had 2 nights of kernel compiling, its now 1am on the 3rd
<0> and now ive forgotten to copy the old .conf
<0> and i just turned the machine off
<5> :/
<0> do you know of a smallish distro that has the dvb usb module pre compiled?
<5> No clue, sorry.
<5> Hm, Slackware does seem to have most of them as a module.
<5> At least, I can't recall explicitly enabling them.
<0> oh
<5> So that must mean they're standard in Slackware :)
<7> whats dvb?
<0> i think i will try fc4, and then if no luck there i will go to slackware, I will say good bye to debian
<5> Digital Video Broadcast
<0> yup
<7> ahh ok
<7> your blaming an entire dist on one kernel?
<0> i have a usb freeview (uk digital terrestrial) thing
<0> gb, oh i full acknowledge its me not the distro
<7> hmm sounds interesting
<7> only a uk thing or available for digital terrestrial elsewhere too?
<5> It's available here in NL in certain areas.
<7> uhuh
<5> Only densely-populated areas though.
<0> yeah, most of central europe has it i believe
<0> there are also dvb-s (satalite) and dvb-c (cable) drivers too
<5> Since that's the only infrastructure available here.
<7> yeah I'd like sat tv/radio straight into the pc via pcmcia
<7> but yet too find a card
<7> usb==crap
<7> & I dont blame the drivers, the so called standard is flawed
<7> pcmcia is much more mature albeit still suffers some of the issues of hotplug that usb does
<0> hmm well i am not optermistic about this working, 1) i only have usb1, 2)the system is ~8yrs old and only 500mhz
<7> hhehe pushing the proverbial up an incline ey?
<0> gb, my initial goal is just to be able to dump the mpeg straight to disk, then i wont need x or anything, and it will be fairly easy to script to record at set times
<0> if that works, then i might look to see if the picture is watchable too
<7> smoo2: yup sounds good in theory :)
<0> in theory....
<5> Does your card have a hardware encoder?
<7> hehehe always good in theory
<0> SuN, i dunno, its one of those little usb stick size things, not a set top box
<7> translation too practice always seems a tad more difficult
<5> Probably not then, heh.
<0> lol
<0> well
<0> at worst I can use it on my xp laptop for when im away
<7> wine?
<0> at best, i will be able to ssh from work to home to get all my tv recorded!
<0> so i have compiled this 2.6.15.4 on my fast machine, i know i have to copy the vmlinuz to /boot and set up grub, but where do I find the modules which I must copy to /lib/modules/2.6.15.4 ??? sorry im a bit slow
<8> run make modules_install and copy all /lib/modules/2.6.15.4
<0> so make modules_install will compile and install the modules to /lib/modules/2.6.15.4 on this machine? and then i copy those to the other?
<7> smoo2: if you have two machines with identical gcc, etc you can install n run distcc on both n let the grunt machine do all the work & let the makefile place everything where it belongs
<7> or if you use debian learn too compile it with fakeroot as a user & install the kernel deb on the machine that needs it
<7> lotsa ways too peel the feline
<0> gb thats what i tried, the old pc is deb but this pc is fc4
<0> i think i will just install fc4 on that machine tomoorw
<7> smoo2: ok as long as the gcc is the same then distcc is possibly your best bet for future compiles
<0> i'l google
<7> wot dist of deb?
<7> I find woody is better for compiling
<0> gb i have no idea :-/ lol i just did a net install
<7> sid breaks too often n sarge has the outdateness of woody with the instability of sid :)
<0> distcc looks good tho
<7> smoo2: trick is too make sure gcc's are the same or terrible things could happen :)
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