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<0> anyone know if there is a way to fully reset or power off a ide hdd while the system is running?
<0> im getting this error with one of my drives Buffer I/O error on device hdd1, logical block 786451
<1> anyone know anything about http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123367
<1> it's the last problem with my mobo and I am keen to see some progress :)
<2> hi just wonder so many people seem to thing when I say static dev I'm talking devfs. well I know they are 2 diffrent things and devfs is not in the kernel any more. But is static dev going to or is that what I feel is the foundation and udev is just another enhanced chiopce.?
<2> personally I still like static dev tried udev and don't care for it. Don't like that rules file at all .
<3> is the kernel hacking for newbies a good intro to the linux kernel ?
<4> before starting to work on the linux kernel make sure you know C well. then I guess you could also use Linux Kernel Development by R. Love
<3> oh, ok, d1zzy
<3> i am better at C++ than C .. :(
<4> I dont know "kernel hacking for newbies" to make an oppinion on it
<3> anyway, i think i can manage :D
<4> I know the other one and its a very good book IMO
<3> ok, d1zzy .. you have read it ?
<4> yes
<4> both editions
<3> ok.
<4> you should get the second edition as its updated to 2.6.10
<3> and which edition is th 'better' one ?
<3> ok.
<3> ty :)
<4> I haven't done any kernel stuff for some time but I do remember the books as being one of the best on kernel topic. if your development effort is focused on new driver development you might also want to check out Linux Device Drivers 3rd edition (nicknamed in here LDD3)
<3> d1zzy: Linux kernel development 2nd edition, sams, 2005 ?
<3> thats the one ?
<4> I think so, let me check ISBN
<3> ok
<4> ISBN: 0672327201
<3> ok.
<4> you can search on amazon directly by the ISBN
<4> if you are doing driver development (most of the kernel development effort happens in that area anyway) you should consider LDD3 as I said
<3> yes, i am doing that.
<3> no, i want to understand the kernel, in general
<4> ah then mr Love's book is better I think
<3> ok.
<3> wow, most people have given it 5 stars
<4> :)
<2> hi just wonder so many people seem to thing when I say static dev I'm talking devfs. well I know they are 2 diffrent things and devfs is not in the kernel any more. But is static dev going to or is that what I feel is the foundation and udev is just another enhanced chiopce.?
<4> udev from the kernel point of view is static dev
<3> oneforall: udev is a choice. you can use static dev.
<4> from the user point of view is dynamic dev creation
<4> oneforall: when a new device is registered the kernel notifies using sysfs (I think) where udevd listens and acording to its rules (that are configurable) it manages the devices
<2> well I prefer static . I don't like udev or want it but glad good old static is still a chioce :)
<3> atleast, on slackware it is :)
<3> oneforall: but what is the reason for not liking udev ? static dev has a lot of clutter.
<2> well I don't consider 275K /dev a pain :) and that has more for me and apps adding to it than default . but I don't like the cumbersome rules dev and its been a while but there were a couple of things that i couldn't get to work at all . I have no need for it dev does great for me in all the years of using it .
<3> oh, ok, oneforall
<2> I honestly hate the rules file . I'll wait and look at something new in the future. plus 3+ rimes(quit counting at 3 ) the uev versions released failed so another reason and I play with cvs svn compile kernel 2.6 from just a little after it was released so it not that I donno what to do :0
<2> rimes/times
<2> uev/udev
<2> thats rules file was the ising on the cake so to speak for me
<2> ising/icing
<2> sux to so many people over the time in slackware and other channels I've been to gave up and use it and still don't like itbecause they figure that static dev is out. I know it because people thing that devfs is static dev . Why because every time I say static dev they say why do you want to keep using udevfs :(
<2> thing/think
<3> lol
<3> no, there are three /dev implementations. static, devfs, udev
<2> yes
<5> where is the LamerOnLine?
<5> at least three
<3> have to leave .. catch ya all later :)
<5> hmm a non-resolving ipv6 address
<6> Im looking at dnotify support... From what i can see, i need to have one fd open for each dir i want to monitor, right?
<6> yeah.. i should fix that some day.. :P
<5> not today? :P
<6> maybee ;)
<6> anyway, the dnotify stuff... i would like to monitor a whole directory structure.. but having one fd open for each directory would probably not be very effective (maany dirs..).. any ideas?
<5> lotsa ideas, just no energy too put them into practice
<6> put them into words then? ;)
<6> hm my IP should resolve btw, dig -x 2001:16d8:ff20:0:0:0:30:30 seems to lookup fine..
<5> mm must be a freenode thing then
<6> tried from 3 differnt servers, all can lookup
<6> guess so
<7> ha
<8> well if anyone got any good ideas about my dnotify problem, let me now
<8> hm inotify seems better for this..
<9> hi all
<7> hai2u aXp
<10> how do I create a kernel backdoor entry ?
<5> vimman: try init 0
<5> jstrom: What are you trying too do exactly?
<7> sup
<5> yes please
<5> I always like a bit of supper at this time o night
<5> thinking I might go grab a potasium stick n shove it between some toast
<8> gb: well.. my plan is to monitor X number of dirs (mounted drives), and on any change in directory structure (new dir/removed dir) in any of these, i create/remove a symlink point to this directory, in a central place... so i have symlinks from one central "view" which "mirrors" all content in all drives
<8> i know there is onionfs, but that does not allow me to write in the original dirs (without manual updateing the "view")..
<8> and lvm exists, but then if one drive goes, all data goes
<5> ahh so a claytons plan9 ey :)
<8> plan9 got something like this?
<5> plan9 is a theoretical file system
<8> isnt it an entire OS?
<5> theory goes something like you login at a central point & you need not concern yourself with where the actual data lives, because it just does & is the same wherever you go :)
<8> okay
<8> unless you're the admin? ;)
<5> short answer is I dont know of anything :)
<5> which does what you want too do that is
<8> well this view of mine will only be read only.. for my fileserver, ftp and samba read only access to this view
<5> many would say I should remove the of & place a . after anything :)
<8> haha ;)
<8> well inotify seems to work somewhat better for this task than dnotify.. just have to patch it into my kernel and start playing
<5> there are monitoring tools too alert you on critical file changers but I don't know if they're capable of doing anything but loggin/emailing you
<8> yeah, FAM and such exists but i dont think they work to well with many dirs (recursive) like intoify seems to do
<5> yeah I wasn't thinking of fam
<5> I was thinking more along the lines of logcheck, etc
<8> oh yeah well, but thats not like this at all ;)
<11> ok I just downloaded 2.6.15.6 did config file up and when I go to type in make so it will make the kernel it bombs out on me
<11> In file included from init/version.c:9:
<11> include/linux/compile.h:7:28: missing terminating " character
<11> make[1]: *** [init/version.o] Error 1
<11> make: *** [init] Error 2
<12> hi if my ethernet adpter packet len more than 1500 then shld i drop it
<11> hello I cant seem why i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/592995
<11> if someone could help me that would be great
<13> Hi all. would someone here mind to explain to me the difference of a "normal" kernel patch vs. a "broken out" kernel patch?
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