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<0> scheme48 is masked ;)
<1> masked?
<0> is scheme48 a programming language, from the manual
<0> yes, seems like gentoo's portage contains buggy scheme48
<0> so they mask it
<0> so you wouldn't screw up
<1> scheme48 is an implementation of scheme
<2> i've to reboot...
<1> well don't download it from gentoo
<1> get it from the web site
<0> :]
<1> scheme48-1.3.tgz
<1> that's what you need
<1> http://s48.org/1.3/download.html
<0> i'm not that noob so you'd give me a link to the download :)
<0> i had already googled



<1> i just tought you are lazy :)
<1> (in case that..)
<0> :D
<2> /bin/sh linuxrc has PID != 1 right after getting executed
<2> i'm confused.
<0> my pid 1 is "init"
<0> 11494 is /bin/sh
<2> on my gentoo machine it is also 1 and on every other system it was also 1
<2> but PID 1 shouldn't be [swapper]
<2> and i don't understand why [swapper] is PID 1
<1> maybe he doesn't use init
<0> i don't have swapper ;/
<2> i'm not using init, that's right; but in this case linuxrc should be PID 1
<0> i have no idea, just a noob in how actaul system boots ( after kernel is finished loading) ;/
<2> hm, I don't have [swapper] either on my gentoo machine
<1> Drakas: it loads init or linuxrc
<1> Drakas: if neither those exists then i think that it tries to load something like /bin/sh or /bin/bash. if neither those exist then it panics
<2> yes, and i want linuxrc to start init
<1> estel: maybe init expects to be first process or something?
<2> yes
<2> that's the problem
<3> that would be why it's called init :)
<2> but init can't be PID 1 when linuxrc isn't PID 1
<2> PID 1: linuxrc -> init
<3> so then the question becomes why is linuxrc not 1
<2> yes; that's the question i'm interested in ;-)
<0> http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/d248efe0f73aaa14/d795941a4bfcedd8?lnk=st&q=linuxrc+is+not+pid+1&rnum=3#d795941a4bfcedd8 might be useful
<0> ktne: hwo do you convert string to integer in pascal ;?
<3> start with count 0
<3> then repeat this:
<3> multiply count by 10
<3> add next digit
<2> hmm, busybox seems to be the problem...
<1> Drakas: use Val()
<1> Drakas: or StrToInt, but i don't remember in which unit is it
<3> when no more digits, you're done
<0> and how do you the convert back?
<0> StrToInt is only on Delphi ;(
<0> Val, too?
<1> StrToInt is on FPC too
<1> FPC implements most of Delphi
<1> you have to enable it with parameter -Mdelphi sent to fpc when compiling or use {$mode delphi} on top of your source file
<0> but i dont want to include delphi libs..
<1> uses SysUtils;
<1> this is FPC units
<1> not delphi units
<1> you don't need delphi to use fpc
<0> well... where would i put uses part then, if i am doing a normal app?
<1> because fpc reimplements all delphi units
<1> after program
<1> http://dada.perl.it/shootout/fpascal_allsrc.html
<0> okey
<1> and again, fpc doesn't require you to have delphi
<1> fpc has reimplemented most useful delphi units
<2> i don't know why, but using root=/dev/ram and init=/linuxrc linuxrc is finally PID 1
<3> so, where would I find specific definitive information on sata and sata2 controllers?
<0> estel: maybe don't use init parameter?
<0> not sure though
<2> no, using init and root parameter it works...
<2> but i still don't understand why
<4> hi



<2> maybe i can also exec init; but qemu is very, very slow :(
<4> is it possible get workin network driver on 2.6 kernel when those have been create to 2.2
<3> paistis: you'd have to port the driver... but isn't there a 2.6 driver?
<4> no :(
<3> then you'd have to port the driver
<4> okey
<4> thansk
<2> kernel ops; but it seems to work ;-)
<2> ok, thank you for your help
<3> so, where would I find specific definitive information on sata and sata2 controllers?
<3> as it applies to support by any linux kernel
<0> :]
<5> maybe ciscos are affected by the DCC exploit too ;)
<0> Hou_Free_: what exploit?:))
<0> my pascal app is awsome
<0> a mini shell...
<0> with errors when you type p instead of 5 ;)
<0> LDD
<0> ktne
<0> :]
<0> ktne
<3> tst
<0> ktne
<0> noob question: how do i compress "pret" and "sample" files into program.tar.gz ? ;)
<6> noob answer: man tar
<3> Drakas: a .tar.gz is a .tar that was compressed with gzip
<0> i already have an answer ;]
<0> ;]
<7> hi
<7> Getting error "Unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffff88005060 RIP" after a call to framebuffer_alloc() and then attepmpt to pci_resource_start
<8> any kernel-guru's around :(
<8> hercules / # modprobe smbfs
<8> FATAL: Error inserting smbfs (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/fs/smbfs/smbfs.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
<8> hercules / # dmesg | grep smbfs
<8> All help will be greatly appreciated
<8> smbfs: Unknown symbol capable
<9> High Memory Support, the default is 4 GB, is bad for any thing to enable it in 64 ?
<9> oh... sorry, i don't have look the "help" button on this special menu =)
<10> Thanatermesis: yes
<10> unless you have more then 4gig it's pointless enabling the code too generate mallacing your remaining memory for addressing
<9> is bad ? mmmh... this kernel needs to are "generic" then for machines "less than" 4 gb or "more than", correct ?
<9> aha
<10> yes the kernel is geared for addressing up too 4gig
<10> why waste memory too adress more if most have less then 4gig?
<9> another question, im curious for look the diferences between the original conf of the kernel and this debian default conf where im touching a little, where i can found the original conf ?
<10> usually comes in the deb containing the kernel
<9> the debian conf yes, but the original kernel conf also ?
<10> dunno what you mean
<9> mmmh, what is "vanilla" ?
<9> this is not the "flavour" called to the original kernel configuration ?
<10> depends on the context
<10> if you are referring too the default values taken on when the .config is missing I do not know where that comes from
<10> otherwise its simply the .config included within the tarball or package containing kernel source
<10> My guess is such settings are acquired from the Makefile
<10> the same file at the top level you set items like extra version, etc
<9> aha
<9> ok, i try to download in any case a kernel from kernel.org :)
<10> but thats only a guess, I might be wrong & probably very well am :)
<11> hi i have problem when i try to change frequeny via poweron machine freezes do any body know what could be wrong
<10> martin: too cold for it?
<11> :)
<11> i ment lock-up
<11> is there any way i could find what happend without serial-console
<1> hello
<12> hello ktne
<1> hmm
<1> gtg :)
<13> Does someone knows what's hw_random in the kernel ?
<6> my guess it's driver for some hardware random number generators
<14> The hw_random device driver is software that makes use of a
<14> + special hardware feature on your CPU or motherboard,
<14> + a Random Number Generator
<14> it's in the kernel documentation


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