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<0> stevenm: More Gentoo stuff in the query, btw
<1> where can i access the logs in kopete?!
<0> raptor: Right-click a contact in the buddy list and click "History"
<1> i don't have that
<1> :/
<2> raptor: Ensure the History plugin is installed.
<3> doh
<3> 3 days after i get a mighty mouse
<3> they come out with a blue tooth version
<3> those bloody bastords.
<1> gentoo's fault
<0> raptor: Let me guess, you're using Gentoo and the net-im/kopete package?
<1> damn useflags
<1> :P
<2> raptor: If you're using gentoo (and I see you're in #gentoo) you need to enable the proper USE flag for net-im/kopete.
<1> ok ok, thank you
<0> raptor: Yeah ... useflags for every damn plugin were an unpleasantsurprise
<1> i will enable everything :)
<0> PhilRod: true dat
<3> i dunno about sane defaults
<3> but a "ask when this package is installed" option wouldn't hurt.
<0> SimAtWork: And unprecedented, I believe - an emerge process is usually non-interactive
<3> Sho_: doesn't mean it *has* to be.
<3> Sho_: i don't see why it couldn't ask a couple of questions after the initial emerge command.
<0> SimAtWork: In reality it probably does, because changing it would break a plethora of tools relying on stable output
<1> you should have the option to merge the package with default configure flags
<1> everything is disabled here
<3> Sho_: well then a flag to allow those questions.
<4> alright.. anyone have a 3.5 installation they could recompile libtaskbar for with a patch to test something for me?
<3> although maybe --verbose --pretend is all you really need
<3> it's just to much when you're installing 80packages at once
<0> SimAtWork: Which nobody uses/knows about, and gets the stupid defaults again
<5> aseigo, I could try to, but it will probably take a while (and in an hour I get off work)
<5> aseigo, I could build it, then come back on later and say what happens
<4> ok.. well, let me try just replacing libtaskbar on this machine and see if it works out =)
<5> aseigo, alright
<6> hi everybody...
<6> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
<7> Sho_, SimAtWork: BSD ports already does something like that - it'll ask you questions, unless you do 'make -DBATCH', in which case it just takes the defaults (I *think*)
<3> PhilRod: sweet!
<3> PhilRod: apt does too, at least at a basic level. it shows you what it'sg oing to do, makes some simple suggestions and asks "y/n".
<0> PhilRod: I guess Gentoo's ebuild syntax should be augmented to require a line of documentation for every flag an ebuild uses, and an interactive mode could leverage that data to ask questions and save per-package flags to package.use
<3> so you emerge apcupsd, emerge can say something along the lines of "generally you want the usb flag on when emerging apcupsd, you don't have it enabled currently" with a "continue y/n"
<7> Sho_: yup, that's what ports does
<3> of course this entire discussion is in the wrong channel :)
<0> PhilRod: Does ports retain global/per-package flags somewhere, or is it entirely a one-time-only/build-time thing?
<7> hrm, now that I don't know
<8> depends on the port
<8> oh you're not talking about ports
<8> you're talking about portage
<0> wallshot: We're comparing both
<8> oh
<8> freebsd ports have options which get saved in /var/db/ports somewhere
<8> not all ports take advantage
<8> some ports makefiles just want you to specify SOMEDEFINE=1 or something when you run make
<8> older method from before make config and saved config options
<8> kde uses new config options
<8> so long as i don't wipe out /var/db/ports/kdebase/options, those ones i picked for that port remain even if i sync up ports tree
<0> wallshot: One of the nicer things that Portage's flag system facilitates is that you can change the global or per-package flags and then do an emerge -N which rebuilds anything affected, in correct sequence and adding dependencies as needed, which is sort of what I was aiming at with the comparison
<9> wallshot: haha... you're welcome :D
<10> hi, i tried to google but found nothing on "writing to kio_svn not supported " -- how can I integrate then SVN into a KDE development environment?
<11> chx: use the command-line
<10> *sigh*
<10> not too comfy :(
<12> chx: have you tried kdesvn ?
<10> would it be possible that if I save locally, an svn commit runs automatically? :)
<10> Theory: erm yes, but how that's better for integration purposes than command line ?
<12> *shrugs*, I like the command line :-)
<10> (and it's even buggy a little bit)
<12> are you trying to edit files directly though svn://
<10> *shrugs* me too but i was so used to sftp integration
<12> rather than having a local working copy that you commit?
<10> yep
<6> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
<12> chx: I believe this can be achived through the svn webdav extensions, and mounting the webdav path
<10> Theory: that could also work, if there is a script which commits automatically on each save...
<9> ricardo: install dcoprss
<10> well, svn runs above webdav
<9> ricardo: or just install akregator
<13> Hi, what is dcoprss?
<12> they wrote some autoversionning foo a while back so you could treat it like standard webdav and have each write automatically committed
<6> i know those....but i wanto to just show a few headlines with conky...
<6> lunitik:
<10> Theory: where can i find more?
<12> chx: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.webdav.autoversioning.html
<9> ricardo:
<9> ricardo: wth... don't do that :/
<6> lunitik: why?
<9> ricardo: its annoying
<10> Theory: I mount with fusedav? Or is there a kio dav?
<12> chx: see the 'next' link on that page
<6> lunitik: dont agree....just wanna do it...
<10> oh yes.
<10> there is a webdavs.
<14> chx: esvn is a good svn gui for QT/KDE too.
<12> this all reminds me I need to get my autosvn scripts written
<15> CHX: for http, svn uses mod_dav
<15> chx: you misunderstand svn
<15> chx: you can use this: svn checkout svn://...
<14> So who here is familiar with kmenuedit and XDG menus?
<9> [TSK]: Care to ask your actual question?
<9> [TSK]: or would you rather wait around till someone pokes you for it?
<14> Either way works for me... 8)
<14> Well, the question is simple really... I know that using kmenuedit edits the XDG menus on a local (user account) basis, but is the ONLY way to edit systemwide XDG menus, by editing the actual XDG files in the /etc and /usr and other system folders, or using the KDE kiosk admin tools, or is there a handy GUI similar to kmenuedit for doing such things?
<14> I ask because the distro that I currently use (Mandriva) has decided to end-of-life their menu editing tool (menudrake) in favor of the "upstream tool for this purpose" (kmenuedit) rather than update it to support XDG.
<16> hello guys, im using a laptop, just done installation of kde (finally) i canot see any battery status on my system tray, where/how do i do it please?
<16> using freebsd 6.1, latest kde
<14> deadline-: You'd be wanting to look into the klaptop tools/daemon as a possibly useful bit of software.
<14> deadline-: If it's installed already, then it should be able to be enabled in the KDE control center.
<17> lo.
<16> hmm where in controll center please? im in it, but cannot find? which category?
<16> [TSK] and sorry, but where is klaptop?
<14> I am not entirely certain. I installed in on a laptop about a week ago, but it was someone else's laptop, and he's not here. If it's not in the control center tho, then the package might not be installed. It should be a fairly simple matter to use your distro's software installer to find and install klaptop.
<16> okay, klaptop is in the ports, im installaing now, after its done, it should come somewhere in controll center?
<18> yes
<18> kcontrol atleast
<14> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29295 looks like an alternative to KLaptop if klaptop doesn't work out for you.
<18> though i am not sure it will be in that kubuntu special control center, try running the command "kcontrol"
<14> There's still some fiddly bits involved in getting power management features working 100% on a laptop even WITH those nifty GUI tools installed, but there are tons of good howto's on the web about the more esoteric details of ACPI/APM/Power Management on laptops under Linux.
<3> if acpi wasn't inherently broken it'd be a lot easier :)
<14> SimAtWork: This is too true, sir. 8(
<16> you know, i had something strange, before i install kde my shutdown -p now, was working fine and it kill the power off, but now, after kde is up and running, its not working anymore, and it gives an error "acpi cannot get adrs" i think,, has something to do with kde?
<14> deadline-: That's just plain odd. I've not seen that problem before.
<16> strange, i will configure my kernel for acpi, maybe it will reset things up.
<5> aseigo, any luck on that patch?
<19> how can i get festival to work with akregator? (don't even know where to start - couldn't find anything)
<0> deadsouls: Google for KTTS
<19> Sho_, thx :)
<0> deadsouls: Basically you need to install the KTTS plug-in for Konqueror and enable it in Konq, which, because it uses khtml as well, will make it available in Akregator, too, and I believe KTTS uses festival
<19> cool. do u know if gentoo has that in portage?
<0> deadsouls: hmm let me check what package my ktts files are in
<20> kdeaccessibility
<19> ah. thanks :)
<20> and kdeaddons for the konqueror plugin
<0> pino to the rescue :)
<20> :)
<18> when inserting a camera, i have no problem using it with digikam to get the images, but what if i want to use it as a removeable hd? how do i do that?
<18> i only see a camera in the media:/ ioslave but i cant see its files
<18> and also, there is no /dev device
<21> Hello all
<21> I installed libjingle, but when I try compiling kopete with --enable-jingle it doesn't see the libraries...has anyone had this issue?
<21> I installed libjingle to /usr/lib
<21> er../usr prefix anyway
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