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<0> wow
<0> that's really weird
<0> but it's ok
<1> so i have permission on /dev/hdc but not /dev/cdrom ?
<1> is that what that means?
<0> maybe you need cdrecord to be suid root then
<2> no
<0> no, permission on the device is fine. isn't it?
<1> sorry, i dont know what suid is
<2> shining: yeah, not sure why he's having problems
<3> spankthru: it means the process will run as a specific user...
<0> I need cdrecord to be suid here
<2> spankthru: what's k3b complaining about again?
<0> as every user on debian sid
<1> cdrecord
<1> -----------------------
<1> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2).
<1> thats part of the debugging output
<3> shining: mine isn't suid root, and works fine on sid?
<0> it depends on cdrecord and kernel version
<1> /usr/bin/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
<1> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
<1> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
<2> weird. continue in #fedora
<0> spankthru: doesn't matter
<3> shining: my user is member of 'disks' and /dev/hdd is owned by group 'disks'...
<0> lunitik: which version of these do you have?
<2> the problem's not k3b itself apparently
<1> ok
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<1> thanks though
<3> shining: cdrecord: 2.01+01a03-5 ... kernel: 2.6.17-3
<0> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist%40lists.debian.org/msg211271.html
<1> i think k3b is thinking my ide burner is scsi
<1> scsidev: '/dev/hdc'
<1> devname: '/dev/hdc'
<1> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
<3> shining: idk... I burned a CD yesterday as a normal user... maybe that person inadvertently ***igned cdrecord suid root by mistake?
<3> shining: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord asks this question, and defaults to "yes"...
<5> hi all! where can i see the irc logs of "Fr Jul 14 2006" ?
<3> litb: for Konversation?
<5> for channel #kde
<5> the official logs somewhere
<0> lunitik: hmm?
<3> litb: no idea ... I have them locally :/
<3> shining: what exactly is your question there?
<0> lunitik: cdrecord doesn't work without suid root
<3> shining: try dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord ... tell it not to be suid root, and try burning as a user in disks group
<0> otherwise debian wouldn't propose to set it suid
<3> uhh... disk not disks
<0> "Both
<0> binaries were not SUID."
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<0> it doesn't work if it isn't suid. I'm having the same behavior than this user
<3> shining: was needed for cdrecord when 2.6 first came out... idk, like I said, I burned a disk as normal user yesturday, and my cdrecord isn't suid root
<1> i ran k3b from a terminal, as root, and its burning a cd now, that sounds like my user just doesnt have permissions right?
<3> spankthru: umm, yes
<0> which error do you have?
<1> me?
<0> no
<0> lunitik
<1> is it unwise to be running k3b as root? should i try to set this up to work as a user?
<3> shining: no idea... been a while since I set cdrecord suid root :/
<0> spankthru: yes
<1> shining, is it the permissions on the device /dev/hdc thats giving me problems? or cdrecord? im a little confused
<0> lunitik: what?
<3> spankthru: what user and group owns your cdrom device?
<1> /dev/cdrom or /dev/hdc ?
<3> shining: when I burn a .iso ... I get the .iso on the cdrom, instead of the contents of said .iso
<0> lunitik: wtf
<0> that's really odd, and again that's not the behavior I see
<3> spankthru: /dev/cdrom is usually a symlink to your actual cdrom drive... if you have IDE cdrom drive... it is likely either /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd ... ls -l /dev/cdrom
<3> shining: idk, its annoying though... so I don't use K3B for data CD's
<3> Only music CD's etc
<1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jul 4 18:06 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
<3> spankthru: ok... then your cdrom is /dev/hdc
<1> does the 'root root' part mean my user doesnt have permission to it?
<3> spankthru: cat /etc/group | grep disk ?
<3> spankthru: yes
<0> lunitik: he has the correct permission for the cdrom drive
<1> disk:x:6:root
<0> scroll up :)
<3> spankthru: ls -l /dev/hdc
<3> spankthru: symlinks are irrelivant
<0> lunitik: we already did that..
<1> brw------- 1 sean disk 22, 0 Jul 4 18:06 /dev/hdc
<3> symlink permissions are irrelivant*
<0> spankthru: are you stupid or what?
<3> shining: he's not in the disk group... so no, he doesn't have correct perms
<0> lunitik: are you too?
<1> noone is really talking in #fedora, think i could get you people to help me get this to burn as a user?
<3> spankthru: cat /etc/group | grep cdrom
<1> lunitik, that returned nothing
<0> ...........................
<0> lunitik: do you realize he's not using your pc, neither your system?
<3> shining: he's using Fedora ... cdrom group is not debian specific
<0> whatever, are you blind ?
<0> 18:45 spankthru >> brw------- 1 sean disk 22, 0 Jul 4 18:06 /dev/hdc
<0> unless he changed that himself, but he doesn't even know how to change permission
<3> shining: I've never seen any distro ***ign a device to anyone but root...
<0> well it's indeed rather odd
<0> and besides the disk group seems useless, it doesn't even have privilege
<0> I wonder what happens when you've two users
<3> shining: either he did that, or someone told him to... I highly doubt any distro would do it by default...
<1> i dont think ive changed any permissions
<0> 18:25 straw >> groups isn't that relevant on fedora
<0> ha
<0> I just noticed I misunderstood that
<3> shining: that really depends on SELinux ... and most users are told to turn off SELinux early in their Fedora experience
<3> shining: if they turn it off, then permissions are handled just like any other distro
<0> spankthru: disable SELinux then
<3> shining: meh
<0> what?
<3> shining: don't tell people that! its there for a reason!
<3> shining: he should be advised of how to do it with SELinux enabled, not to simply turn off SELinux
<2> true
<1> they are telling me in #fedora to run this k3bsetup, usually it can be run from within k3b? but i cant find it anywhere, and k3bsetup is not a command with my user, or root
<3> spankthru: from CLI... just run it
<1> CLI?
<3> spankthru: terminal (command line interface)
<2> spankthru: the person telling you that is clueless. k3bsetup isn't included
<0> lol
<3> straw: haha... yum search k3bsetup
<3> straw: its not a dep... but afaik its around
<0> k3bsetup is in a different package?
<0> doh
<3> shining: its not NEEDED, so yes, afaik
<0> anyway, it's a fedora problem, ppl here are not supposed to know the answer, and how to properly fix it
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<1> will runing this k3bsetup program (if i ever find it) solve any permission problems with my burner?
<3> straw: hmm... you have livna extras and core enabled? cuz I remember it being a package
<0> anyway
<0> won't k3bsetup just set cdrecord setuid root ?
<0> since he already has permission to the cdrom device
<0> what else could it change?
<3> shining: it controls groups, and sets apps to use... run it there :/
<3> shining: has nothing to do with suid options
<2> k3bsetup isn't available from any fc repo
<2> because it's not needed
<0> k3bsetup has nothing to do with suid ? WTF
<3> straw: fedora tracker confirms ... my mistake
<3> shining: run the app :/
<3> shining: it configures k3b ... not the underlying apps
<0> ok, we are not talking about the same thing
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