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<0> ma3x: yes
<0> ma3x: it makes fonts look better
<1> rabauke: the window decoration looks like the one that comes w/ compiz
<1> rabauke: I think the style is QtCurve
<2> See, if you had asked me, I would have said "no / it makes fonts look worse" :)
<2> So, try and see for yourself
<1> rabauke: QtCurve is very cool :O)
<3> I don't like antialiasing on non-LCDs
<4> I had a look at kde-look.org, thanks, I'll look again
<0> yeah well I don't support CRTs any more :)
<1> rabauke: I've tried finding that window dec before. Tell me if you find a native one
<4> BTW Konversation is not a K-name but an actual word, in some languages :)
<0> all my displays are quite flat
<5> rabauke: likewise 'konsole'
<2> rabauke: Its current maintainer happens to be German ;)
<1> deutsch!
<2> rabauke: As was the original project founder
<1> und das ist warum ich die K-named austehen kann
<5> contrary to some people's opinions too, there are actually some apps that have a k, but are perfect english words. 'kitchensync' comes to mind
<1> yep
<1> not limiting yourself to K can produce some cool sounding apps, though :)
<2> yeah, like iAnything ... ;)
<4> one should not force it, but the k is a well known hint to KDE, so useful in terms of the brand
<5> some of the names are just plain clever too, it has to be said. 'akregator' is a particularly well done name if you ask me
<2> Hm, Akregator is one of the worse ones IMO
<1> hehe
<2> Replacing gg with k is just ... forced
<1> everyone knows that i**** is a dumb naming system, too :)
<3> I like Akregator, but I can't think of any other word which has a k followed by an r... it's not natural to say
<1> gnome's newer applets/apps may have some silly names, but I still prefer ala carte to akregator
<1> how about KRSS?
<5> rohanpm: 'crayon' produces exactly the same sound
<3> qupada: ah, good. now I do know of one :-) although, it being at the beginning of the word makes it easier I think
<2> Ak'regator ... sounds Klingon
<3> Well, Klingons would use KDE obviously
<1> it just sounds stupid :)
<3> Just look at the name of their species
<2> Klingon Desktop Environment, indeed
<1> it's hard to even think of pronouncing it :)
<1> in case anyone cares, my kuroo experience was one of failure :)
<5> Shirakawasuna: doesn't in the least suprise me
<2> worked fine here
<1> ha
<1> Sho_: I dare you to let it touch package.keywords ;)
<1> on the other hand it did alphabetize it
<1> then again it un-~-versioned everything
<1> a couple more releases and I'll try it again
<1> wow
<1> so...why aren't you just running ~x86? :)
<1> I've gotten my desktop down to 3 entries
<2> well, if I were running ~x86, I'd often have to package.mask a lot of crap that isn't ready yet
<2> And I prefer it the other way around, to selectively unmask what I know I want from testing
<1> makes sense
<1> I was mostly just making fun of you :)
<6> interesting little nugget: kate --version: Kate: 2.5.4
<6> should that not be 3.5.4?
<2> Tomasu: KDE applications have their own version numbers
<1> 2.5.2, here
<6> most dont...
<2> Tomasu: Most do
<1> I think kate is version 2
<6> the fact that its one number off...
<1> my kwrite is version 4.5.2
<6> just looked weird
<1> :)
<2> Tomasu: The Kate version number is unrelated to KDEs version number
<6> I see...
<2> Tomasu: BTW your Konsole is 1.6.4 ;)
<6> yeah, just saw that
<2> Your Akregator is 1.2.4 :)
<1> haha
<6> with it having the exact minor and sub version it looks suspicious...
<2> better yet, your Kopete is 0.11.4
<2> :)
<2> unless your distro replaced it with the seperately released 0.12.x
<6> nope, I seem to be running 11.3 actually
<2> I wasn't 100% sure what version is in 3.5.4 - I'm running 0.12.2 atm
<6> heh
<2> The Kopete team released a 0.12 seperately at some point between KDE 3.5.2 and KDE 3.5.3
<6> yeah, I thought I was.. probably just havent bothred since 3.5.4
<2> KDE 3.5.5 will have 0.12.2, 3.5.4 still shipped 0.11.x
<6> god I wish this build of boost would finish... its all headers.. how long can it take to compile headers? :o
<7> 57 years
<6> seems like it.
<1> oh yeah
<6> heh
<8> kopete being in kdenetwork is a pain
<1> I'm looking forward to any new processor, gah
<1> anything but me thunderbird
<7> Sho_: buy one for me too
<6> yeah, I could use a couple
<6> the best I can do is a new X2 3800 939
<2> Renze: dream on :P
<6> and in about a month...
<7> Sho_: I shall! ;)
<6> since I need a gfx card and mobo for that >:(
<1> I'm looking at a sff PC....btw: P4 or celeron D?
<1> I've heard a lot of hate about P4s...at lot about celerons too
<9> why is Kmail really slow when "receiving" mail from a local mailbox?
<10> kmail using 99% cpu on a large mail :)
<7> hagabaka: I used to use fetchmail to grab all my mail to my local spool... kmail would import it very fast
<10> this beast needs work :/
<7> tuxick: you have access to the source... make it better :)
<10> Renze: past 10 years i've run into at least 100 projects that need fixing
<9> for me it's much slower than remote accounts, and kmail gets very unresponsive
<10> i've got bills to pay
<1> tuxick: you could always pick one :)
<11> I think with all of the changes behind the scenes kmail will improve quite a bit in kde4
<1> hehe
<9> would it be possible to let kmail just read the mail in place, instead of copying to another mbox?
<1> KDE4, the nerds' holy grail
<10> Shirakawasuna: i'm on at least 30 mailinglists, just to report damn bugs
<1> tuxick: that sounds like enough to me :)
<10> not to mention the vast amount of bugtrackers i'm on
<10> hagabaka: use imap!
<9> i tried it, but the imapd on my distro is really badly documented
<6> tuxick: please don't tell me you use bugzilla.. the bug tracker from hell :o
<9> it presented my whole home directory to Kmail, and i didn't know how to change that
<10> Tomasu: even kde project uses that thing :/
<12> yooo
<2> tuxick: A considerably modified version, however
<10> i think bugzilla is why open source projects stay broken
<0> lol
<10> it discourages people from reporting bugs
<10> Sho_: granted
<6> tuxick: hence why I rarely post bugs I find. bugzilla is more annoying than most software bugs.
<12> whats wrong with bugzilla ?
<11> tuxick: I'd have to agree
<10> ZARRO BOOGS
<9> bugzilla discourages people from reporting bugs?
<10> Fly_101: it's the worst user interface ever
<11> though kde's modified one is a lot better
<10> maybe after mailmain web interface
<10> bluelightning: quite
<6> its still bugzilla.
<2> Well, to be honest, if someone is too lazy to use Bugzilla, their bug reports would most likely tend to be non-useful anyway
<12> im sure theres more many open source bug reporting software's out there
<10> mantis is nice
<12> though' i dont need anything like that
<11> I like mantis, but its searching interface isn't that great
<6> Sho_: its not about being lazy, its about an interface being incomprehensible, and a pain in the but.
<6> like gnome ;)
<2> Tomasu: Well, fix it then ... the kde-www team always needs helpers, and a new version of BKO is in the works currently
<6> fix gnome? why? ;)
<2> But aside from the slightly confusing app search, the wizard isn't hat incomprehensible, IMO ...
<2> *that
<6> besides, Im not a kde member, I dislike web dev, and I have other responsibilites
<9> i think most bugzillas have the best interfaces among web applications
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