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<0> too bad... :( it makes the taskbar pretty unusable for me. when I look for the Konqueror window, I am just confused by seen "streamripper" there (that's the folder name)..
<1> I usually just go by the icon
<0> is this just a UI guideline or does the app tell KDE what's app name and what's doc name, so that it's patchable?
<0> Renze: they are too small. and often not very intuitive either.
<1> iirc it used to be the other way around (appname - the rest) but the usability people had a fit
<0> Renze: yeah. I think it's very stupid, but whatever... makes me hope that it's adjustable at least in the core KDE code, not every application.
<1> I actually prefer it this way
<0> I guess it depends on how you think. I think top-down.
<1> so do I, usually
<0> Renze: is there at least a way to prevent minimized windows from being dimmed in the taskbar? this makes recognizing even harder.
<1> not that I am aware of
<2> only for people who actually use taskbars
<2> if that
<0> stoned: ?
<2> what about people who use kde but no taskbar
<2> it doesn't really matter if the window is minimized then, does it
<2> dimmed*
<0> Renze: if I say "show *only* minimized windows", they are black. if I want to see all windows, these same entries get grey.
<1> there has to be some differentiation between an unfocused but not minimised app, and one that is minimised.
<0> stoned: I still don't get you. if you don't use the taskbar, the discussion is irrelevant to you.
<2> exactly
<2> thats what I'm saying
<0> Renze: no, there doesn't need to be. I don't care.... windows doesn't differentiate either, IIRC
<0> stoned: so? your point?
<3> I think the taskbar is braindead and don't use it
<2> I'm stoned. Whats your poing?
<2> piont*
<1> I think windows (ack, I feel so dirty) does
<0> stoned: that you should shut up if you're stoned
<2> BenB, make me
<0> heh, the taskbar is the only reason I run KDE. it's the only part of KDE I need :)
<0> ok, the konqueror too
<2> you're a tool
<2> you're a toolbar user
<2> *ahem*
<4> BenB: there are easier ways to accomplish that...
<4> BenB: if thats all you find useful about KDE, you should look into window managers etc...
<4> BenB: you don't seem to need a desktop environment
<1> uh oh, aseigo is cross-dressing again
<5> 'lo
<4> Renze: ahaha... uh?
<4> krillr: sup
<5> lunitik: not much.
<5> i love fish://, i just wish dialup were faster.
<1> the faster version of dialup is called adsl
<5> yup, but its not available here
<5> neither is cable internet
<1> satellite?
<5> too expensive.
<1> true
<6> EDGE?
<5> not in an area serviced by EDGE or EV-DO
<5> and the pings on EDGE and EV-DO are 4-6 times higher than dialup :-( trust me, i've used it in seattle
<0> Renze: is this goldilocks? http://www.dltk-kids.com/members/images/sgoldilocks.gif
<1> still, dialup is faster than IP over pigeon :D
<1> BenB: could be...
<7> BenB: one rendition of her, yep
<8> and more reliable what with bird flu
<5> Renze: ping-wise yes, but not bits-per-second speed
<0> Renze: well, pingeons made inroads recently with 4GB SD cards
<6> stallite also wouldn't offer nice pings :)
<5> Caster: true, true
<1> BenB: yes, but those TTL times are huge :D
<5> Renze: true, the TTYL is directly proportional to the distance between sender and recipient.
<6> local ethernet + optical backbone ftw
<0> Renze: you mean latency? definitely. but then again, latency didn't get much better in the last years in internet connections either
<0> krillr: unless there's a pretty pingeon woman on the way
<9> Can someone help me set-up my sound card properly with Amarok on SuSE 10.1?
<5> BenB: true.......
<0> linksta2008: why do you say amarok? because that's what you want to use, or because other applications work?
<9> Because that's the only one I know :)
<0> linksta2008: have you tried going to Yast -> hardware -> sound?
<9> No. :)
<9> Actually I have.
<9> Ac '97 audio
<0> linksta2008: ok...Yast is your thing when you want to setup the system, incl hardware
<9> k
<1> ...which has nothing to do with KDE
<6> sigh
<0> linksta2008: if people throw you out here, try going to #suse
<9> Huh, wow nevermind, The volume was just low lol
<9> BenB:I have been in SuSE for hours :)
<0> linksta2008: ah. :)
<6> I wish that "the document cannot be saved" message in kwrite had a button "press this to enter root p***word"
<6> and try again
<1> Caster: file a wish on bugs.kde.org
<0> Caster: I wish it would not. you should not edit system files with GUI apps, IMHO
<0> (personal opinion)
<6> why not, when it's easier
<1> vim is easy :D
<0> Caster: well, if you want easy, then you probably don't want to edit system config files.
<6> nonsense
<0> Caster: I see your point, but I can also see newbies shooting themselves in the foot.... also when saving their user docs in /usr/ ("User") etc..
<6> not being commandline masochist and wanting some comfort doesn't mean I don't understand those files :)
<10> in installed dekorator (gentoo ebuild) but i can't install themes. when i use dekorator in kwin decoration configuration module (kcontrol), the decoration of my windows stays empty. what's wrong?
<1> commandline is masochism? since when?
<11> is there a way to make the fish protocol respect ~/.ssh/config and to use public key authentification?
<6> that's subjective
<0> Renze: since GUIs have been invented.
<6> but I really feel more comfortable with GUI editors
<1> I started when there was nothing but commandline
<4> Renze: thats cuz you're old... :D
<0> jott: WFM out of the box (and scares me!
<1> yup
<0> is there a way to *disable* that (fish using public key auth)
<0> ah, yeah, there is: disable fish.
<11> remove your private key ;)
<0> jott: seriously, it doesn't work for you?
<11> no
<0> jott: well, I need it for SSH/scp.
<11> ssh works fine but not fish
<0> jott: which distro? I use SuSE 10.1
<11> kubuntu
<11> probably some hidden setting ;)
<1> or kubuntu alteration
<0> jott: I don't know, sorry. find . -name "*fish*, same for /etc/, found nothing.
<11> hm there is even a ssh-agent running as a child of startkde...
<11> ok key authentification works now but the config is ignored..
<0> hanno: there's some DCOP commandline app, if that helps you.
<0> (IIRC)
<12> I already found that, but only doc how to connect to running apps
<0> oh you want to instantiate them?
<12> my problem is I have a crash bug with the kaffeine-kpart
<12> and I'd like to know if I could reproduce it without konqueror
<1> I think everybody has the crash bug with the kaffeine kpart... which is why I use the kmplayer kpart instead
<0> Renze: which is a good reason to fix it....
<0> :)
<0> hanno: I'd talk with the developer
<1> (I prefer kmplayer to kaffeine anyway) :)
<13> hi
<4> Renze: kmplayer and codeine are the only apps here that play DVD's easily... and codeine devs hate features :(
<1> codeine is aimed at simplicity and usability
<14> lunitik: you just need libdvdcss and an uncripped xine
<4> benJIman: I have both... no go
<14> lunitik: never had a problem myself
<1> you do realise that codeine uses libxine, yes?
<14> if codine works kaffeine should
<4> Renze: yes, which is why its strange that codeine has no problem, but kaffeine always complains
<4> Obviously its not a xine issue
<14> lunitik: what error message does kaffeine give?
<14> perhaps it's trying to use the wrong device or something
<4> I think I actually got it to work once, but it decided to not work again after
<0> lunitik: maybe you have 2 libxine on the system?
<4> benJIman: meh, I use kmplayer now... I'm not installing kaffeine to tell you error :/
<4> BenB: no
<15> Is it possible to configure KWrite so that it _never_ uses any syntax highlighting?
<1> no syntax highlighting? that's crazy talk. :D
<15> Well, not everybody likes to view source code in 1001 colors...
<1> maybe if you set all the highlight colours to black?
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