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<0> ah
<0> here that would be Standard 3
<1> so many sytems, they should make SI units for these things
<0> they probably have... just nobody adopting them :D
<1> in the us you aren't accualy expected to know anything other than reading writting and arithmatic till you turn 12
<1> so I wasn't that far behind
<1> :)
<0> I was kinda ahead for most of my time at school... so the rest of the kids didn't like me
<2> lol.. I learned to type about 2 years ago... I'm 20..
<1> kids didn't like me for better reasons :)
<2> but man I could do like 80 words a minute finger typing
<0> I'm a self-taught typist
<2> the only reason I learned to type was from a video game called "Typing of the Dead"
<1> LiquidNerd: now you are down to 20 but without the errors?
<1> kde stuf builds slow
<0> C++ is always slower than C
<2> hehe
<1> I learned to touch type at the age of 14 after I got sick
<0> more preprocessing to do
<3> That's what prebuilt packages are for
<0> at least I know it will work when it's done :D
<1> benJIman: well I had dependency troubles
<1> Renze: unless you wrote it?
<0> timthelion: in that case, I fix it :P
<1> I know lisp, and I dable in everything.
<1> I am learning haskel
<0> haskell rocks
<1> but when I see cpp I freek
<1> Renze: you use it
<1> ?
<0> too bad it is so rarely used outside of academia
<0> timthelion: I have in the past, yes
<0> I'm horribly out of practice, though
<1> I am writing a calculator in it that will be able to ace pre-calculus math
<1> I don't know why cpp is so hard for me
<0> in most cases, something is only hard because the person believes it is hard
<1> maybe it is because I started learning it in 5th grade
<1> when I got the lappy
<0> but, speaking purely about syntax, c++ is horrible compared to something like haskell :)
<1> I don't like cpp because of the difficulty in my buzwords exploring, discovering, using
<1> ie
<1> api's are imposible to work with compared to say elisps
<1> C-h f
<1> I
<1> Renze:
<1> hm, bedtime
<1> and I can't read this buffer :)
<1> it is a bit messed up.
<0> using the emacs irc client?
<1> yes
<0> emacs, the editor that wants to be an OS
<1> well a usd device got detached. and I am on tty0
<1> Renze: it does a damn good job of it too
<1> Renze: emacs came before the os
<1> :)
<1> Renze: so do you do any cpp development in vim?
<0> timthelion: not for a while... been doing more python and PHP/html/css than anything else lately
<0> and I tend to do that in Kate
<1> hmm, you arn't one of those evil ones who is trying to make the un-keyboard accesable ajax take over are yoi
<0> no, ajax is javascript
<1> I used kate for a while
<1> it didn't have any good methods of helping me explore the cpp api's though
<0> that's what kdevelop is for
<0> kate is just an editor
<0> well, not just... but it's not really an IDE
<1> kdevelop, last time I used it, a year ago, was an unstable slow, and non usefull labirynth
<1> I used to do XAML with c# on winxp.
<0> hmmm... kdevelop has been quite stable here for a while... more than a year
<1> now that was a nice dev environment
<0> I haven't used Windows since 1998
<1> windows ****s
<1> but visual studio, is the best dev environment I know of
<1> the 2005 version
<0> I didn't think much of visual studio when I had it in 1998
<1> that was pre .net
<0> very very pre
<3> it has some handy features, it's quite slow (2005 version)
<1> benJIman: you need the proper hardware, yes
<0> I tend to not use IDEs when I code, anyway
<3> I like the code coverage features of the testing, automatic cl*** diagramming
<0> guess I'm kinda old :D
<3> timthelion: it gets slow with multi-thousand line c# files, the parser can't handle it
<1> I need them. I don't have the abuility to learn api I need to be promted
<1> I need something like emacs, which shows me WHAT I can do with elisp as well as HOW to do it
<1> I never understood how someone could just sit down and write down function names when I don't know which function exist
<1> how do you deal with that problem
<1> ?
<0> I don't have that problem... I have a reasonably good memory
<3> timthelion: code completion doesn't require it to be so slow, it wasn't in the previous versions
<3> timthelion: you can have api documentation open on your other monitor
<3> but even vim has code completion
<1> I find the code compleation for elisp in emacs to be good
<1> I can go strait to the source of any function in a heartbeet
<3> http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/screenshots/omnicomplete2.png
<1> p
<1> not having x started I can't view that
<0> benJIman: lcars, eh? ;)
<3> it's only vim's visual studio style code completion
<1> hmm.
<1> Skipping 'x11/kdebase3' because a requisite port 'x11-toolkits/qt33' faile
<1> that's not good
<1> all that time compiling
<1> I think I'll go to bed
<4> Has anyone actually compiled kmail with --enable-final on X86-64 with GCC 4.x? I know --enable-final eats up a lot of memory, but using the compile of kmail_private_all.cc (or something like that) it gets up to 1 GB vmsize, and I just gave up after a long time of swap thrashing the drives.
<5> then don't
<0> marcusU: that happens on any architecture... just be patient
<5> enable-final means you're building all of KMail in one single go
<5> if you don't have the RAM or CPU for that, don't use it
<4> That particular file is much larger than one of the others I saw, and the process size gets a lot bigger with GCC 4.1 than did with with 3.3. You don't have to get all grumpy about it.
<5> not grumpy
<5> I'm just saying it's normal business as usual for enable-final
<6> if i have amarok already running, how do i get KDE to stop trying to load it every time i click on a different mp3?
<7> control center -> kde components -> file ***ociations
<7> change the file ***ociation for mp3 files
<8> hi all
<8> is possibile to make a plugin for KDE using Python ?
<8> PyKDE semts to be a little outdated...
<7> depends exactly what sort of plugin you want to make
<7> hrm, I thought pykde was actively maintained
<8> PhilRod: i want to make a plugin that allow users to upload photos to myphotos.zerozone.it
<8> maybe whould be better to watch kipi ?
<5> a plugin for what application?
<8> http://myphotos.zerozone.it
<5> that's a website, not an application
<9> yeah, kipi is the way to go
<10> wow, he, is, awesome.
<9> but, it may be easier to begin with a standalone python app
<8> thiago: is like flickr
<9> if it's the language you better know
<8> Anarky: i know both C and Python
<5> O_Zone: which KDE application do you want your plugin to work for?
<8> thiago: i want to make a plugin to let users upload photos to myphotos
<5> for which KDE application?
<8> thiago: maybe digikam
<8> so i'm looking to Kipi
<11> canllaith: still there?
<12> hi all
<7> hi annma
<9> O_Zone: if you want to make a kipi plugin, I think C++ is the only choice
<9> but you can start to make a standalone (python) app
<9> then port it to kipi/C++
<8> Anarky: is possible ?
<8> Anarky: maybe is the best way: i'm skilled to python
<8> last PyKDE was 19 September, 2005
<13> hi, there is some khtml developer here ?
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