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<0> i edited them and they dont work
<0> amarok's work
<1> bluesceada: there's likely a reason that it's not letting you add it twice
<0> but so i can just control volume of amarok
<0> benJIman|work: which
<1> bluesceada: systray
<0> i dont know.. if the kde team gets gnome-like they could do it because of preventing the user of doing stuff he should not
<2> bluesceada: It's not about not wanting to do the extra coding. First of, I was speculating, not giving an official statement of any kind. Second, there is a finite amount of manpower available, and many things to do.
<0> yeh, not not wanting, but needing the time to code something more important, of course
<2> bluesceada: And if you're honest with yourself, you're going to admit that adding the ability to have an arbitrary number of systrays ranks very low on any kind of priority list
<0> yeh...
<0> if it's extra coding work, then i understand
<1> afaik there is a window state defined in netwm spec for windows that are hidden or in systray
<1> and systray presumably has to display those windows, I don't know how it would go about updating if restored from another applet etc
<2> There's also the fact that the systray applet does write out and read from config for the hiding stuff, so you need to code it in a way that doesn't cause resource conflicts
<1> it may not be as simple as it seems, although I havn't looked at it
<0> hm
<0> if they just would access the same config
<0> and read from it...
<0> but I'm not a coder so ..
<1> bluesceada: it's not about config
<3> good morning all out here on #kde :)
<0> another thing i just see (as i try to switch pager to wallpaper moed)
<2> And as benJIman|work points out, the systray actually displays little windows that are managed by the respective applications, and mirroring that into another systray externally is probably tenfold the amount of work
<0> it just displays the wallpaper for the last desktop
<2> I don't even want to imagine how you'd get the tray context menu to mirror considering it's not painted by the systray applet
<0> hmm
<0> i had once kicker running in fluxbox
<0> and kickers tray did work and fluxboxs did too
<2> The whole systray technology isn't really set up to have multiple systrays
<0> hmm
<0> stupid
<0> but it would be good if it would be
<0> maybe i could try another panel...
<0> or start multiple kicker sessions somehow??
<1> some kde apps you can launch twice with --nofork, don't know about kicker
<2> Running two kickers is asking for trouble
<0> hmm
<0> or i just use another panel additional
<0> hm now the other question
<0> how can i have kpanel display the wallpaper on any mini-screen
<0> hmh
<0> i think kicker is not good developed anymore because it will be replaced, right?
<0> then i dont care and be happy to see something nice in kde4 :D
<2> bluesceada: If you mean the Pager applet, right-click -> Pager Options -> Background -> Desktop Wallpaper
<0> i did so
<0> but i can just see it for desktop 4
<0> other ones look like elegant style
<2> hmm
<1> bluesceada: have you changed desktop?
<1> it probably caches it when you switch
<0> benJIman|work: yeh .. switched around ..
<0> but no problem
<0> i use transparent style then
<0> i just see kcontrol has really nice configure options for peripherals -> display for multiple monitors :-)
<0> just kdm was really messed with my two monitors...
<1> yeah kdm does't support xinerama well
<2> this is interesting
<2> I just tried one of those systray Karamba applets
<2> It tries to move the systray icon windows, and kicker tries to move it back
<1> heh
<2> So basically I have a fast-flickering mayhem going on here where the systray icons move from the karamba applet to the kicker and back
<0> Sho_: ew strange
<0> it did work for me with fluxbox+kicker
<0> but that was ago some longer time
<4> how does kicker draw fonts with colored edges (Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> Appearance: For Transparency) ? I'm just wondering if there's a way to get other apps (well, urxvt or other terminals) to do the same thing..
<2> DuClare: It has code to do it
<0> cu .. bbl..
<5> how can i get the ark tool to support the .zip extention that way i can rightclick in konqureor and select a zip file and extract?
<6> re
<7> is this: System->Preferences->Sessions from kde. This is a command for ubuntu, I am on debian/kde and try to find the same.
<7> this 5. in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27811
<8> Hello, I have a question about kwrite: is there a way to easily mark an entire line in kwrite? (easy = fast keyboard shortcut, not selecting with mouse)
<9> smith_: shift+end?
<8> fosterfeld_, thanks A LOT :)
<9> smith_: that at least works if the cursor is in column 1
<8> fosterfeld_, I noticed..works well for my purpose...thanks again
<10> hello. I have a problem with Gentoo 2006.0 and Kde 3.5.4, when a new app starts, it doesn't appear. Indeed, i have to open it with kicker.
<10> do you know, what to do ?
<10> because if i delete the .kde, the problem dissapear
<11> hi all
<10> hi octan
<11> if i make an extra panel. and dont use the hole width of the desktop.. the is some space left at each corner. "i have centered the panel" however, at the space i cant have icons, if i try to place icons ther the sutomaticly moves down below the panel size.
<11> is the a know issue?
<11> or a but i got
<11> *bug
<11> do any one understand what i mean?
<12> anyone here familiar with the guts of k3b?
<12> i need to know what program it expects for normalize
<4> got a prob... downoaded a splash from kde-look, used kcontrol to "install" it but it never appears in the list so I can't select it. something I can do about that?
<12> bonjour DuClare ;)
<12> it's possible the splash is corrupt?
<4> bonjour :) I don't speak french though :)
<12> (somehow)
<4> yeah
<12> DuClare: the name is french... the DuClare family acquired an estate in France in the 40s after the previous owners were killed for sheltering Jews from the Nazis IIRC
<4> it doen't have the config file and a new folder is not created, only the images moved to themes
<4> PeanutHorst: I know it's a french name :) I like it
<12> DuClare: that bit of history featured in a computer game called Deus Ex
<4> I know that too :)
<4> Deus Ex is excellent
<12> Nicolette DuClare ... i like that name, i liked the game too... but I sacrificed it for Linux.
<12> DuClare: If only Loki games had made that Linux port of the DX engine...
<12> oh i'd be in heaven...
<4> I installed windows because of Deus Ex and another game.. I don't play very often though
<4> hmm, is there linux version of UT2004? some guys are on a project called deus ex reborn, it's a complete port of dx to ut2004 engine if I remember correctly..
<12> DuClare: yes, UT2004 can run on linux natively
<12> dx to the ut2004 engine?
<4> yes
<12> W00T to the extreme!
<12> you just made my year :)
<4> http://dxr.deu***gaming.com/forum/index.php here's a forum, I'll try to find the site as well if I can..
<4> aha, the site isn't seemingly done, http://dxr.deu***gaming.com/
<4> I will buy ut2004 if they really get the mod done :)
<4> I rarely buy games. I don't play much... but that's a must
<12> DuClare: it's worth it for Team SpecOps and Infiltration as well IMHO, but can we move the discussion? i don't want ops getting irate (i've known them to before in some technical channels)
<12> i'll issue an invite
<4> sure. I'll try to get the splash to work tho :)
<13> hi
<13> how do I rebuild thumbnails in a directory full of jpegs? I'm using Konqueror as a file manager.
<13> hi lxuser
<12> Roey: a reload (Ctrl-R) should be adequate
<12> servus, lxuser
<13> PeanutHorst: it doesn't do anythging
<13> PeanutHorst: it just skips perfectly good jpegs.
<13> PeanutHorst: some of them it skips.
<14> Roey: it might be those files are too big.
<12> smileaf: or one other thing
<12> Roey: were those JPEGs saved with the inbuilt thumbnail preview in metadata?
<13> smileaf: the ones that are skipped are around 1-2 MB; the ones for which thumbs are shown are around 500k
<14> Roey: that'd be it then. you can adjust that in the settings.
<13> PeanutHorst: in-built thumbs (I verified; there was no .thumb* in this dir)
<13> smileaf: where can I adjust it?
<14> Roey: configure konqueror. Preview & Meta-Data section.
<13> ok
<14> I normally set it to 2M
<13> ok
<13> thanks :) :)
<14> np =)
<13> what is "increase size of thumbnail relative to preview"?
<14> check it and find out. I think it looks nicer.
<13> It just made the icons bigger.
<14> ya
<13> Does it make the icon at least the size of the built-in preview?
<13> (the preview embedded into the picture that is)
<14> it does take into account your icon size.
<13> ok
<13> I don't uinderstand what it does though
<13> oof
<13> :)
<15> anyone able to help with this problem? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=471857
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