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<0> i usually use KMail, but i need to view some MS Word attachments as HTML
<1> Sho_: konqueror loads gmail faster than kmail starts here, heh
<2> benJIman: I start my email client once per session
<2> i.e. it's running concurrently
<1> Sho_: what do you do when away from home?
<1> to me choices are mutt on a server somewhere or webmail
<3> hi
<3> I need some help
<4> hi Janne_Doe
<4> just ask
<3> ok, I have installed debian last day and i'm trying to upgrade kde
<3> I have kde 3.3
<3> but I don't know how to upgrade it to the last stable version
<5> nite all
<2> benJIman: When I'm away from home I have my laptop
<2> benJIman: I wouldn't write or read my email on a PC that is now owned and setup by me anyway
<4> Janne_Doe: if you're lucky, someone here will know. If not, you'll have to ask in #debian (or maybe #debian-kde. I think that's it)
<3> i have googled but I'm new...
<1> Sho_: paranoid about keyloggers etc?
<2> benJIman: Paranoid by principle :)
<3> ok
<6> laptop thief http://www.boind.com/fs.php?url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061842890783782238
<7> chuck1: yeah, dude, no one gives a ****
<8> What does Konversation need? kdebase or kdelibs or both
<4> just libs
<9> libs, of course
<8> ty
<3> "DebianSarge contains KDE 3.3.2, and always will." why always?
<7> Janne_Doe: Stable releases do not receive version upgrades
<2> Janne_Doe: Sarge is the codename for that particular release, which, after it is published, only receives maintenance updates, which doesn't cover a KDE upgrade. The next Debian release will feature a newer KDE.
<7> Janne_Doe: hard to support a moving target etc...
<3> so if I want a stable release I must wait the next release?
<2> Janne_Doe: The next Debian release will be 4.0 (codename 'Etch'), will include KDE 3.5, and is presently scheduled for the end of this year
<2> Janne_Doe: yep
<3> hum
<3> I should check when it will append
<8> Janne_Doe: if you refuuse to wait, try another distro :-)
<3> like?
<2> Janne_Doe: Debian isn't really very desktop-centric. If you want a desktop system, you might want to check out one of the desktop-centric Debian derivatives like Kubuntu, which always has an up to date KDE.
<7> Janne_Doe: Etch :D
<8> Janne_Doe: kubuntu
<3> I'm getting out of kubuntu
<3> XD
<8> Janne_Doe: Eh, why?
<7> Janne_Doe: Debian Etch... has KDE 3.5.3 right now...
<7> Janne_Doe: has security updates too...
<2> Debian Etch is pre-release.
<8> not 3.5.4 :-)
<7> Janne_Doe: 3.5.4 will likely get in soon as not many people are having issues with it in Sid
<3> euh I don't know how I should say (I'm french)
<7> Sho_: Etch is more stable than Kubuntu Dapper ime
<7> Hell, Sid is more stable than Kubuntu ime ... although I'd never recommend that to someone...
<2> It still feels weird to recommend to someone to install the development branch of a distro
<7> Sho_: its not the devel branch... you were right first time though...
<7> Sho_: etch only see's upgrades that are considered stable in Sid...
<2> It's called 'testing', 'testing' being part of 'developing' something
<2> i.e. it's a development branch, until they call it stable
<7> Sho_: Sid gets development... then they go to Testing...
<7> Sho_: testing is to test development things in a wider audience... things won't break as much by design...
<2> testing is a staging area for the next stable release, which is a function of the development process
<2> Give it up - you won't convince me that testing isn't part of the development process ;)
<7> Sho_: yes... but it doesn't see active development... its a staging area, as you said...
<7> Sho_: takes minimum 2 weeks for things to get from sid to testing depending on bug reports etc...
<2> lunitik: I know all that, and it's not contradictory to my original statement :-)
<7> Sho_: etch is the first testing branch to get security upgrades... thus first to be supported... thus why I recommend it for anything other than servers...
<10> i'm having trouble reading media:// after d-bus upgrade, could someone point me at the right direction? (yes, i have the correct qt bindings)
<7> Sho_: although see previous statement: hard to support a moving target... it won't be as high quality as stable...
<10> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'." <-- if i try to read audio cd via the desktop link
<7> iuso: I'm pretty sure its 'media:/' ... lose one of the dashes
<10> lunitik: you're right, typo. but doesn't change anything, i'm trying to access by clicking the icon
<7> Hmm, actually, both work here... 'media://' is root... blah
<10> i get an even more interesting error with data cd's
<7> iuso: see distro-specific channel perhaps?
<10> one that seems to point at hal
<10> i'm a distro devel :)
<7> iuso: ahh... what distro?
<10> "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bug configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
<10> Source Mage is the distro i work for
<7> iuso: google of your nick told me that, sorry
<10> i won't get any help from the few devels, none have experienced this flaw
<8> iuso: define "work for". is SMGL sponsored by a c9ompany that you are employed by ?
<8> company*
<10> this is most probably just some local config issue, but it nags me
<10> no, work for as in free time voluntary
<10> Source Mage is a small distro
<10> we recently updated dbus to 0.91, which broke the qt3 bindings for KDE. we got a package together with the pre-0.90 bindings, and things work again - for others but not me
<11> How I can change background color of systray icons for Gtk applications under KDE?
<7> UrkeMMI: wrong place to ask... its a GTK/Gnome panel issue
<11> lunitik, thanks
<7> UrkeMMI: they simply don't allow for the background image... try turning that off, and all looks fine... else its annoying...
<12> is this "plasma" stuff supposed to mean anything specifically ??
<7> UrkeMMI: work around, but maybe not something you want...
<12> or is it just a kde4 rocks statement?
<7> letto: its the new desktop paradigm for KDE4
<10> i'll first just try recompiling+installing hal...
<7> letto: basically next generation kdesktop/kicker/superkaramba ...
<11> lunitik, I set panel to transparent and just wish to set black color for that icons (gaim, xchat, azureus)
<12> yea, and what exactly does it mean?
<7> letto: plasma.kde.org ... thats all I know about it :/
<13> there is any art/themes related channel?
<13> I want to talk with any kde artwork hacker
<3> thanks for your help
<3> bye
<12> arc_:just do a /list kde
<13> letto: don't know any kde artwork hacker
<13> letto: maybe I didn't expresed well
<13> letto: I want to know if there is any kde artwork hacker around
<2> arc_: #kde-artists btw
<13> Sho_: thanks
<2> arc_: also www.kde-artists.org
<12> ark_:you were asking for an art/theme related channel
<13> letto: that's why I fixed my question
<13> letto: speaking in a non-mother tongue is not easy allways
<14> erm, is using ftp:// from konq slower than using gftp ?
<14> in uploading large files
<15> any gentoo users around? i was on holidays the last week. now i synched my portage tree and an world update wants to emerge kdebase and kwin, which block each other. any clue?
<8> When I vbuild konversation, I get a error.
<9> Hijacker: yes, ask in the proper channel, aka #gentoo
<8> grep: /lib/libattr.la: No such file or directory
<8> /bin/sed: can't read /lib/libattr.la: No such file or directory
<8> libtool: link: `/lib/libattr.la' is not a valid libtool archive
<9> install libattr devel
<8> pinotree: devel? :P
<8> pinotree: this isnt kubuntu :P
<15> kk, thx... ciao
<9> kbrooks: -dev
<8> pinky: does konversatio use extended attribute system calls?
<8> pinotree: 8
<16> Uhm
<7> kbrooks: pinotree stated earlier he's a Debian user though ;)
<8> s/8/*/
<17> kbrooks meant: pinotree: *
<16> kbrooks: I don't know?
<9> ah, kbrooks, i'm a debian user, so i know that devel packages ends with -dev ;)
<8> pinky: pinotree not you
<9> lol
<16> kbrooks: Ah, okay... kind of random =P
<9> kbrooks: not konversation, but it's a libtool dependacies given by kdelibs
<9> dependancy*
<8> pinotree: ...
<7> kbrooks: what irc client you use? should fix its auto-complete...
<8> seems like i have to rebuild kdelibs (?)
<9> ... but not his brain...
<9> kbrooks: ?!
<9> just install libattr-dev, libacl-dev
<8> pinky: no - this isnt debian. this is AegeanLinux. and to inform you, i am a devel :-)
<16> ARGHARHHGARHGRAH
<16> Stop saying my name!
<8> pinky: grrrrrrrrr sry
<16> =P
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