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<0> Is KDE's future a big question mark ? <1> linux__alien: KDE's future is a big exclamation mark :-) <0> because Suse has gone towards gnome <2> linux__alien: depends what you mean by question mark... its unknown, because things aren't settled right now <2> linux__alien: no... SUSE LINUX Enterprise defaults to Gnome, SUSE isn't even a distro anymore... they renamed to openSUSE... which defaults to KDE still <3> hello...i need dekorator.....link please? <1> lunitik: Actually it doesn't <4> Sho_: :-) <4> Sho_: how is it a big exclamation mark? <1> lunitik: The setup wizard offers a choice between KDE and Gnome, KDE is above Gnome, and pre-selected ;) <5> mesmerize: ehm.. you dont have to sound so demanding :P <2> Sho_: yes it does, there was a bug filed when they tried to switch to Gnome as default, and they since changed it back to KDE... <5> mesmerize: first hit on google :S <3> :| sorry <3> i googled <5> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447
<2> Sho_: defaults = what you get if you don't pick something else... if you click next without touching things, you get KDE... <0> I think gnome has done a lot in gnome 2.14. <2> linux__alien: no one cares about gnome here... <0> but i feel KDE doesnt release updates frequently <3> tnx <1> linux__alien: KDE has released updates every two month recently ... how much more frequent do you want? <2> linux__alien: there was about as much change from KDE 3.5.3 > 3.5.4 as there was from Gnome 2.12.x > 2.14.x :/ <6> hello, anyone can help with Kopete charsets? <2> linux__alien: if not more... <0> Sho_, In terms of GUI i dont see big differences but gnome's themes like clearlooks is just too good but KDE does not have that <1> linux__alien: Also, a lot of the stuff Gnome added in 2.14, KDE has had for *years* ... like the policy editing stuff, we've had Kiosk since the dawn of time basically <2> bob_: I don't understand what you mean? kopete uses KDE settings for such things <2> Sho_: none of that is part of Gnome still (sabayon etc isn't in gnome...) <6> linux__alien: the problem is i can't set utf8 per-contact <1> linux__alien: Well IMO Clearlooks is a blatant clone of KDE's default style Plastik, but that's getting into flamewar territory, so let's leave it at that <6> lunitik: the problem is i can't set utf8 per-contact <2> bob_: you'd set utf8 kde wide\ <6> lunitik: it doesn't have utf8 in the encodings list <6> lunitik: i can read and write utf8 in other apps <6> lunitik: well i have my locale in utf8, where does kopete gets the encoding list from? <2> KDE has no choice but to obey, because the only locale I have installed is en_US-UTF8 <7> lol <8> lunitik: haha... kde (at least >= 3) is always utf8 <9> Hello; I am having some problems loading a liveCD in the first place; I am not able figure out how to properly configure my bios to load CD without some kind of network crap <6> lunitik: i can manage locales from console, it doesn't matter. and i don't have all locales compiled that are listed in kopete, however it lists them <2> pinotree: not true... if I don't have UTF8 installed... it uses the old mechanisms here... <10> Lynucs_Newbie: what live cd is it , <9> it requests DHCP access <9> DSL and Mandriva ONE <8> lunitik: kde locales are utf8 <2> pinotree: maybe there... <6> lunitik: i guess it's kopete problem <10> Lynucs_Newbie: wouldn't #mandriva a better place to ask ? <2> pinotree: here, it obeys system defaults.... I think you said you use Fedora though? they default to UTF8... <9> I am <9> I just want to know how to disable netwoork booting <2> pinotree: dpkg-reconfigure locales ... change to something else, and tell me kde is still utf8 <11> nobody knows an applet? <8> my system is utf8 <2> neXyon: I don't, other than kpowersave, no... sorry <8> and kde too <8> neXyon: to do what? <11> lunitik: well kpowersave is masked <2> pinotree: KDE obeys system wide settings... it doesn't _have_ to be utf8 <11> pinotree: display cpu frequencies <8> ksim? gkrellm? <8> lunitik: kde3 does not obey to the system LANG <8> (and to the encoding it sets, if it does it) <2> pinotree: I'm telling you it does... from personal experience... if you're not willing to try it, you're going to have to take my word for it... <8> no it won't <8> try installing a new language you don't have the base locale installed <8> then change the kde language via kcontrol to the new language <2> pinotree: what? you talking about ubuntu's language packages now? <8> log in via console and start a kde app <8> no <2> pinotree: install something that isn't UTF8 ... deselect UTF8 ... log out and back in to KDE... note its not using UTF8... <8> its locales are utf8 <8> kde3 have been always using utf8 locales <2> pinotree: how the **** can it use utf8 if utf8 isn't installed on the system? please use your head :/
<8> Qt can handle utf8 strings, dude <12> heh <0> I like KDE a lot because i like C++ a lot <2> pinotree: not if the system doesn't have it installed, it can't... <8> *sigh* <6> guys i guess it's not about locale at all. i think kopete uses iconv or something similar to recode messages. all i need is explicitly set one contact to use utf8, but it's not on the list. can you help me with that? <8> it's _BUILTIN_ in Qt <2> bob_: we're not even talking about your issue right now :/ <8> Qt can read utf8 because it has *BUILTIN* functions in it <8> understand? <6> lunitik: i see, but i have a problem and i hope someone could help me with that <2> pinotree: I'm done arguing though :/ <8> bah <2> bob_: no one knows what is wrong with kopete... sorry... try back later perhaps? <3> i just installed dekorator, but it tells me: "could not run the command" when i try to run it <3> how to open? i typed "dekorator" in "run command" <13> mesmerize: kcontrol => Appearence & Themes => Window Decoration. And search dekorator in the list <3> my last item in list is "window decorations"....but i don`t see dekorator anywhere <3> ah....found it <3> but how do i install a theme? <3> a window decoration <14> Im using driver evdev, and now in kde always i hit the UP key ksnapshot is launched, i search in the configuration but can't figure out why this happening, anyone knows where kde keeps that kind of configuration? <15> is it possible to disable the popups on kicker that appear when you keep the mouse over a button for some time? <15> the version is 3.5.2 if that matters. <2> DuClare: you mean the things that pop up over things like the kmenu? <15> yes <2> DuClare: KControl > Desktop > Panels > Appearance ... see 'General' at the top... <2> DuClare: the yellow things are tooltips, the larger things are mouse over effects... <2> DuClare: both are set there <7> is there noway to monitor lm_sensors as in no applet or anything ? ;) <2> ugh... cart already left... he only asked his question like 10 mins ago :/ <15> lunitik: thanks. <2> Guess its not that important to him <2> DuClare: you're welcome <15> I knew I had removed them before, those boxes were just so small that I couldn't find them anymore :) <15> (installed kde today on my new comp) <2> DuClare: yay :D <7> k nm I found it:: ksensors <2> neighborlee: ahh... never seen that before... thanks.... (even though I have no use for it, lots ask about it) <7> :)) <2> neighborlee: ksensors is an applet though? <7> doesn't seem to be..let me check further thoough <2> neighborlee: can always do 'ksystraycmd foo' if its not... <7> hmm nice <7> lunitik: use that command in command section of say add new panel app ? <2> neighborlee: anywhere really... I usually use it from run... <7> ah ok <7> lunitik: thx alot that worked ;)) <7> I was having a bit tough time finding where on menu it was anyway <G> <7> only bad thing is , it doesn't seem to want to display GPU temp ;( <7> hmmm <7> let me check website <7> I like the uptime and speed stuff as well though <16> hi, is it possible in kmail to auto-reply to mails containing a specific type of attachment, say proprietary .doc ? <17> I guess you can create a filter which executes a script which sends a mail via kmail/dcop or something <16> seems the idea is not new : http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-11-002-20-OP-0109 <18> can someone tell me how to restore the handles to the taskbar? <18> I'm using kde 3.5.2 <2> yoshu: unlock it? <13> yoshu: click in to the panel with the other button => configure Panel => Appareance => Advanced options <18> lunitik: the panel is unlocked <18> lgsobalvarro: thanks :) <2> yoshu: if its not locked ... KControl > Desktop > Panel > Appearance ... Advanced ... "Applet Handles" section <18> yeah, that's it <18> do you guys know if there is an option to change the taskbar icon size in ktaskbarrc ? <18> If that option isn't available, I woud like to know how I could get involved in making it work <19> yoshu: I can't see a way to change it. You might want to ping aseigo and see if he's around - he's the kicker maintainer, and can probably tell you where to look <20> hello folks. I'm using the sourcemage distro, kde 3.5.4 and xorg 7.1. I'm trying to get various apps like amarok, kdemultimedia and other such things compiled. I keep getting /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -laudio <19> make sure libaudio is installed <20> PhilRod: doesn't that come from nas??
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