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<0> Is KDE's future a big question mark ?
<1> linux__alien: KDE's future is a big exclamation mark :-)
<0> because Suse has gone towards gnome
<2> linux__alien: depends what you mean by question mark... its unknown, because things aren't settled right now
<2> linux__alien: no... SUSE LINUX Enterprise defaults to Gnome, SUSE isn't even a distro anymore... they renamed to openSUSE... which defaults to KDE still
<3> hello...i need dekorator.....link please?
<1> lunitik: Actually it doesn't
<4> Sho_: :-)
<4> Sho_: how is it a big exclamation mark?
<1> lunitik: The setup wizard offers a choice between KDE and Gnome, KDE is above Gnome, and pre-selected ;)
<5> mesmerize: ehm.. you dont have to sound so demanding :P
<2> Sho_: yes it does, there was a bug filed when they tried to switch to Gnome as default, and they since changed it back to KDE...
<5> mesmerize: first hit on google :S
<3> :| sorry
<3> i googled
<5> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447



<2> Sho_: defaults = what you get if you don't pick something else... if you click next without touching things, you get KDE...
<0> I think gnome has done a lot in gnome 2.14.
<2> linux__alien: no one cares about gnome here...
<0> but i feel KDE doesnt release updates frequently
<3> tnx
<1> linux__alien: KDE has released updates every two month recently ... how much more frequent do you want?
<2> linux__alien: there was about as much change from KDE 3.5.3 > 3.5.4 as there was from Gnome 2.12.x > 2.14.x :/
<6> hello, anyone can help with Kopete charsets?
<2> linux__alien: if not more...
<0> Sho_, In terms of GUI i dont see big differences but gnome's themes like clearlooks is just too good but KDE does not have that
<1> linux__alien: Also, a lot of the stuff Gnome added in 2.14, KDE has had for *years* ... like the policy editing stuff, we've had Kiosk since the dawn of time basically
<2> bob_: I don't understand what you mean? kopete uses KDE settings for such things
<2> Sho_: none of that is part of Gnome still (sabayon etc isn't in gnome...)
<6> linux__alien: the problem is i can't set utf8 per-contact
<1> linux__alien: Well IMO Clearlooks is a blatant clone of KDE's default style Plastik, but that's getting into flamewar territory, so let's leave it at that
<6> lunitik: the problem is i can't set utf8 per-contact
<2> bob_: you'd set utf8 kde wide\
<6> lunitik: it doesn't have utf8 in the encodings list
<6> lunitik: i can read and write utf8 in other apps
<6> lunitik: well i have my locale in utf8, where does kopete gets the encoding list from?
<2> KDE has no choice but to obey, because the only locale I have installed is en_US-UTF8
<7> lol
<8> lunitik: haha... kde (at least >= 3) is always utf8
<9> Hello; I am having some problems loading a liveCD in the first place; I am not able figure out how to properly configure my bios to load CD without some kind of network crap
<6> lunitik: i can manage locales from console, it doesn't matter. and i don't have all locales compiled that are listed in kopete, however it lists them
<2> pinotree: not true... if I don't have UTF8 installed... it uses the old mechanisms here...
<10> Lynucs_Newbie: what live cd is it ,
<9> it requests DHCP access
<9> DSL and Mandriva ONE
<8> lunitik: kde locales are utf8
<2> pinotree: maybe there...
<6> lunitik: i guess it's kopete problem
<10> Lynucs_Newbie: wouldn't #mandriva a better place to ask ?
<2> pinotree: here, it obeys system defaults.... I think you said you use Fedora though? they default to UTF8...
<9> I am
<9> I just want to know how to disable netwoork booting
<2> pinotree: dpkg-reconfigure locales ... change to something else, and tell me kde is still utf8
<11> nobody knows an applet?
<8> my system is utf8
<2> neXyon: I don't, other than kpowersave, no... sorry
<8> and kde too
<8> neXyon: to do what?
<11> lunitik: well kpowersave is masked
<2> pinotree: KDE obeys system wide settings... it doesn't _have_ to be utf8
<11> pinotree: display cpu frequencies
<8> ksim? gkrellm?
<8> lunitik: kde3 does not obey to the system LANG
<8> (and to the encoding it sets, if it does it)
<2> pinotree: I'm telling you it does... from personal experience... if you're not willing to try it, you're going to have to take my word for it...
<8> no it won't
<8> try installing a new language you don't have the base locale installed
<8> then change the kde language via kcontrol to the new language
<2> pinotree: what? you talking about ubuntu's language packages now?
<8> log in via console and start a kde app
<8> no
<2> pinotree: install something that isn't UTF8 ... deselect UTF8 ... log out and back in to KDE... note its not using UTF8...
<8> its locales are utf8
<8> kde3 have been always using utf8 locales
<2> pinotree: how the **** can it use utf8 if utf8 isn't installed on the system? please use your head :/



<8> Qt can handle utf8 strings, dude
<12> heh
<0> I like KDE a lot because i like C++ a lot
<2> pinotree: not if the system doesn't have it installed, it can't...
<8> *sigh*
<6> guys i guess it's not about locale at all. i think kopete uses iconv or something similar to recode messages. all i need is explicitly set one contact to use utf8, but it's not on the list. can you help me with that?
<8> it's _BUILTIN_ in Qt
<2> bob_: we're not even talking about your issue right now :/
<8> Qt can read utf8 because it has *BUILTIN* functions in it
<8> understand?
<6> lunitik: i see, but i have a problem and i hope someone could help me with that
<2> pinotree: I'm done arguing though :/
<8> bah
<2> bob_: no one knows what is wrong with kopete... sorry... try back later perhaps?
<3> i just installed dekorator, but it tells me: "could not run the command" when i try to run it
<3> how to open? i typed "dekorator" in "run command"
<13> mesmerize: kcontrol => Appearence & Themes => Window Decoration. And search dekorator in the list
<3> my last item in list is "window decorations"....but i don`t see dekorator anywhere
<3> ah....found it
<3> but how do i install a theme?
<3> a window decoration
<14> Im using driver evdev, and now in kde always i hit the UP key ksnapshot is launched, i search in the configuration but can't figure out why this happening, anyone knows where kde keeps that kind of configuration?
<15> is it possible to disable the popups on kicker that appear when you keep the mouse over a button for some time?
<15> the version is 3.5.2 if that matters.
<2> DuClare: you mean the things that pop up over things like the kmenu?
<15> yes
<2> DuClare: KControl > Desktop > Panels > Appearance ... see 'General' at the top...
<2> DuClare: the yellow things are tooltips, the larger things are mouse over effects...
<2> DuClare: both are set there
<7> is there noway to monitor lm_sensors as in no applet or anything ? ;)
<2> ugh... cart already left... he only asked his question like 10 mins ago :/
<15> lunitik: thanks.
<2> Guess its not that important to him
<2> DuClare: you're welcome
<15> I knew I had removed them before, those boxes were just so small that I couldn't find them anymore :)
<15> (installed kde today on my new comp)
<2> DuClare: yay :D
<7> k nm I found it:: ksensors
<2> neighborlee: ahh... never seen that before... thanks.... (even though I have no use for it, lots ask about it)
<7> :))
<2> neighborlee: ksensors is an applet though?
<7> doesn't seem to be..let me check further thoough
<2> neighborlee: can always do 'ksystraycmd foo' if its not...
<7> hmm nice
<7> lunitik: use that command in command section of say add new panel app ?
<2> neighborlee: anywhere really... I usually use it from run...
<7> ah ok
<7> lunitik: thx alot that worked ;))
<7> I was having a bit tough time finding where on menu it was anyway <G>
<7> only bad thing is , it doesn't seem to want to display GPU temp ;(
<7> hmmm
<7> let me check website
<7> I like the uptime and speed stuff as well though
<16> hi, is it possible in kmail to auto-reply to mails containing a specific type of attachment, say proprietary .doc ?
<17> I guess you can create a filter which executes a script which sends a mail via kmail/dcop or something
<16> seems the idea is not new : http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-11-002-20-OP-0109
<18> can someone tell me how to restore the handles to the taskbar?
<18> I'm using kde 3.5.2
<2> yoshu: unlock it?
<13> yoshu: click in to the panel with the other button => configure Panel => Appareance => Advanced options
<18> lunitik: the panel is unlocked
<18> lgsobalvarro: thanks :)
<2> yoshu: if its not locked ... KControl > Desktop > Panel > Appearance ... Advanced ... "Applet Handles" section
<18> yeah, that's it
<18> do you guys know if there is an option to change the taskbar icon size in ktaskbarrc ?
<18> If that option isn't available, I woud like to know how I could get involved in making it work
<19> yoshu: I can't see a way to change it. You might want to ping aseigo and see if he's around - he's the kicker maintainer, and can probably tell you where to look
<20> hello folks. I'm using the sourcemage distro, kde 3.5.4 and xorg 7.1. I'm trying to get various apps like amarok, kdemultimedia and other such things compiled. I keep getting /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -laudio
<19> make sure libaudio is installed
<20> PhilRod: doesn't that come from nas??


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