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<0> it had Ram: and Rad: disks
<1> PhilRod: I get the same problem with root and my normal user?
<2> Dr_willis: cheeers! :)
<3> oh also gnome makes use of cairo far more than kde 3.5.5 ;) another thing fixed in KDE4 :D
<2> my kde is quick and snappy enough
<4> qt: create a completely new user and try with that user
<0> Im not even sure what Cairo is.
<3> kolla, that's what i said
<3> until i delved into the dark pockets of gnome
<3> Dr_willis, cairo is all the vectoring library stuff
<5> Hey guys, is it possible to get Flash working in Konqueror?
<2> at work the other people use gnome (ubuntu), but I'm lost when I try to get things done in gnome..
<3> yes it is
<3> mm same kolla
<3> thats why my gnome looks like KDE
<3> ;D



<0> kolla, yep. its more of a 'gee.. i want to change this... do they allow me to do so?' thing
<2> :)
<3> didn't used to be able to do that
<3> u know how the default gnomebar has those three lists at the top kolla u can delete them and make like a start button one which puts it all nicely in one menu,
<5> Kalidarn: ***uming the 'yes' was directing toward me, how do I go about doing so?
<3> yeah it was
<3> not sure i forget :P
<3> but i know it works
<3> <-- firefox
<3> even when i used KDE :P
<3> had too many plugins running
<3> and i also found konqueror to render pages much slower.
<3> cause of gg?
<3> though i do like konqueror's W3C compliance
<3> that makes it a very horny web browser
<3> a pity it isn't faster at loading pages
<2> Kalidarn: I'm not a start-button kind of guy :)
<3> k button big gnome foot
<3> and if u use KDE you are :D
<2> uhm.. no :)
<3> unless ur using kbfx
<2> I have it up as an apple menu in the top left, but rarely use it
<3> mm k3b is still one of the most functional cd burning programs :D
<3> i hate bars on top
<0> yep - and i guess the next versions of k3b add even more features
<3> because it annoys me if i go to click the cross in the corner
<2> I wish it would be possible to make amiga style menues in KDE
<3> mm never used an amiga
<0> I have several amigas
<3> well ;P not that i rememeber
<3> ive used one
<2> that is.. screen menu bar that pops up on the top of the screen when right mousebutton is pressed
<0> and they had their good points and bad. :)
<3> at a friend's place
<3> but i don't remember the OS
<3> think it was console anyways
<0> Kalidarn, you mean a CD32 ?
<2> amiga was always gui, even when in console :)
<3> it was like a commodore
<3> no OS on it
<2> oh.. game console
<3> but it was an amiga computer
<3> a really old one
<2> all amigas had OS on them :)
<3> double density floppys
<2> in the ROM
<0> I have severl amigas and parts - if anyone needs somtning. :)
<2> anyways.. I'm the gentoo/m68k guy and have lots of amigas, also running linux :)
<3> lol and amiga OS ended up using KDE
<3> and going over to soundblasters and stuff
<0> It did? i got out of it several years back..
<0> i just play with the emulators now a days
<3> i owned a challenger :D
<3> it had 8 colors
<3> and before that a commodore 64
<2> amigaos never used KDE.. hehe. that would imply Qt being ported to amigaos, something alot of amiga users would really be pissing in their pants over :)
<0> I got a Times Sinclare 1000 hanging on the wall.
<3> i thought it did kolla
<0> I liked the way that MUI add on for the amiga looked/felt/worked towards the end of my amiga ussage. :)
<3> kolla, like really old versions of it :P



<3> hahaha i rememeber sinclares
<3> and then there was the spectrum
<3> i got 6000 abandon warez C64 games
<3> but not all of them work :P
<3> with the emulator
<3> i remember digger
<3> by windmill software
<3> 1983
<0> digger - the little men running around collecting gems?
<0> or was that 'diggers'
<3> yep
<3> that was digger
<3> and frogger
<0> diggers was sort of a lemmings/lost vikings sort of kind of game.
<0> not arcade. :)
<3> www.digger.org
<2> Kalidarn: no, if it ever did, I'd know about it... we did have early qt running on amiga/netbsd though (on my A1200 in fact) to test it for endian-ness and cross architecture
<2> Dr_willis: yes, mui is lovely..
<3> ya kolla
<3> i remember seeing a screenshot
<0> kolla, sort of sad how all these old ideas/designs - get sort of lost... such cool things.. tossed out
<2> Dr_willis: in AROS they have implemented a free MUI clone, Zune (huhuh.. and then came MS with their Zune) :)
<0> not looked at aros in ages. then there was some "OS that ran on top of another OS" that had a amiga look/feel to it.
<3> kolla, http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&q=AmigaOS%20KDE&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
<2> Kalidarn: you can ofcourse run an X server on amigaos and log into a remote *ix machine that has KDE
<3> lol kolla Ctorrent on an amiga
<3> lolz
<2> Kalidarn: aha, that's a tad of misinformation.. when the AmigaOS was eveloped they made some PPC based machines, the problem was the OS4 wasntready, and the AmigaOne shipped with linux :)
<3> yeah thats it
<3> thats why it had KDE on it
<2> ye
<3> ;)
<2> but not ontop of AmigaOS :)
<0> Heh - i rember waiting and waiting for the amiga one to actually ship... then got sick of waiting
<2> OS4 final update for AmigaOne was actually released this very xmas.. after like.. 5 years of development
<3> lol http://wwwbs.informatik.htw-dresden.de/svortrag/ai95/Schletter/Image8.gif
<3> vnc desktop on an amiga
<3> to a windows machine lol that looks weird :P
<2> well... http://amiga.nvg.org/daneel/ :)
<6> Amiga is dead... mourn, and move on :P
<3> lol yeah
<2> the pic to the right.. it's very low res (taken with cam corder in '95 or so), shows win3.1 and X11 ontop of amigaos :)
<3> we know
<3> we are reminiscing over it
<2> Renze: and so is Mozart :)
<3> and GeOS
<2> and BeOS
<3> oh yeah
<6> my Amiga 4000 has either been stripped or is in a landfill somewhere
<2> Renze: you could see it chip by chip on ebay, hehe
<7> I still have an Amiga 500 sitting upstairs with no power supply
<8> Amiga is dead?!?
<2> hehe
<6> bline: you honestly think AmigaOS could compete today?
<8> Compete, what's what?
<2> Renze: why does it have to be a competition?
<6> kolla: because an OS with no users doesn't count :P
<2> Renze: who's countig? :)
<8> You are stuck in the this/that mentality.
<2> counting
<2> bline: personally I find *ix systems quite inadequate for lots of usage where amigaos does things nicely
<2> PDAs for example
<6> oh, I think AmigaOS would be perfect for embedded systems... just not realistic as an OS for a PC
<2> it's IMO unacceptable how *ix behaves in regards to filesystems.. the system should not just stall or crash when a filesystem goes missing
<2> I use amithlon, amiga emulator, when I use dialup with GPRS, hehe.. keeps the traffic low :)
<3> damn that nobbin
<3> it made my digger do a farty noise
<3> hahaha got the cherries
<2> my linux setup has too many "online" features.. it's difficult to tell them all to "do not go online"
<2> Renze: anyways, amigaos has plenty of users, so it's not quite dead just yet :)
<2> and if you also count in MorphOS and AROS, you have quite a lot
<3> aw faaark


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