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<0> Morpheouss: Development is focussing on stabilizing the libraries, and the applications (including kdebase) trail behind on being ported to work with the libraries as they change. Some apps catch up fast, some are not yet ported at all, and basically all don't work fully.
<0> Morpheouss: For your intents and purposes, no
<1> btw why don't you help compiz make kde-window-decorator?
<2> probably because they're making their own compositor/window manager
<3> Tm_T, Who was the other person talking to me about noting down issues yesterday?
<0> Morpheouss: First of, kde-window-decorator already exists, second, KDEs window manager, kwin is being extended into a composition manager
<1> Sho_: first, kde-window-decorator isn't done, second, kwin has composite manager which uses CPU instead of GPU and has a lot of mem leaks. It uses X11's composite extension instead of xgl.
<0> Morpheouss: kompmgr is going away, and the new code will support OpenGL composition management
<3> How do I get my System tray to be 2 rows instead of one?
<1> change taskbar sioze to min 52 ;)
<3> hmm, getting a little large now, heh
<3> erm, is it possible to set the clock background to transparent? it looks horribly out of place
<2> actually it is minimum 48 pixels
<0> Enverex: Over here, both the "Plain Clock" and the "Digital Clock" look automatically switch to translucent background when kicker is set to translucent
<3> Sho_, Kicker isn't set to translucent but it has a background...
<4> Does konqueror render gmail well for you people?
<0> Enverex: Works here too ... the clock applet uses the same background graphic
<3> Sho_, It's just white for me =/
<0> Enverex: http://www.eikehein.com/clockbg.png
<1> Sho_ which new one?
<5> XVampireX: works fine for me, but you only get a basic version of it
<0> Morpheouss: The new one I talked about above
<4> isolationist: exactly :(
<3> aaas, found it Sho_ , it needed to be set to "default colour"
<1> Sho_ it's not done, is it?
<0> Morpheouss: kompmgr was an add-on hack marked as Experimental for a reason; now, kwin is being rearchitected into a proper composition manager
<0> Morpheouss: Of course not
<5> XVampireX: i don't use gmail much anyway - hotmail works like a treat
<3> Is it possible to tell KDE to stop using submenus for everything in the KMenu by default?
<4> isolationist: hehe, not really
<0> You want all apps in one menu?
<5> XVampireX: ???
<0> Geesh, you must have a big screen :-)
<3> Sho_, Well when there are only like 4 entries, yeah, heh. (I don't mean ALL categories, I mean submenus)
<6> XVampireX: it can work in ajax mode, but has bugs in this way
<4> oh
<4> ok
<4> so konqueror doesn't support ajax?
<6> ajax doesn't support konq:)
<7> konq doesn't finish loading web pages
<7> and it can export bookmarks in html but not import them
<7> \o/
<6> in modern ajax engines only IE and firefox are supported
<0> XVampireX: If you mean XMLHTTPRequest by 'Ajax', that is supported by Konqueror
<0> XVampireX: As for Googles-Services-and-Konqueror, the biggest problem is that GMail is very badly written and relies a lot of browser detection to serve out code that barely works in the browsers it supports, and it has no such codepatch for Konqueror
<0> *on browser detection
<0> XVampireX: Read e.g. http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1195 for some of the troubles
<0> XVampireX, see the query in case you missed something.
<4> thanks
<4> brb
<8> Hi there!
<8> Is there anyone here that know much about KXdocker?
<8> Or know if there's a channel for it?
<9> just ask here
<9> <CIA-11> hein * r570292 konversation/trunk/extragear/network/konversation/src/inputfilter.cpp: Don't identify twice. BUG:131916
<8> pinotree, Well... It's showing / /var and some other stuff i don't wanna have...
<0> pinotree: And what a stupid bug that was *shakes head*
<8> And also... is there any good wiki or something to it?
<8> Anyone using KDE4 ?
<0> pinotree: I was hoping for some strange emergent signal ping-pong being the problem, but all it was was forgotten code :(
<3> hmm, anyone know when/if Tm_T will be back and can anyone remember the name of the person yesterday that wanted to look through my list of "issues"?
<10> hmm some of these I click to install(karamba) get a checkmark but they were never dloaded etc
<10> Simplcubline Liquid weather ++
<3> oneforall, yeah, I had that issue and even worse, if you ever delete something it doesn't let you download it again =/
<0> Enverex: tstaerk IIRC
<3> Sho_, that was it
<10> h2 isn't working good at all lol
<10> ah I had 2 open
<11> So anyone know of any way input actions in kcontrol could repond to the left mouse button?
<12> oneforall, ya i second tt
<13> Enverex: I think it was tsaerk
<13> tstaerk
<3> PhilRod, it was, heh
<10> h2 looks nice but taking to much mem
<10> and most of the clicks don't work
<12> Ace2007, don't tink tt's possible from the menu.. but u can manually map ur buttons differently
<11> islamguidedotcom: How?
<10> hmm can't get the weather ones to install :(
<3> heh, I thought islamguidedotcom was a spambot
<11> Hi i want to write a new app for kde where do i start? (i don't know anything about programming, yet!)
<11> #qt
<0> Ace2007: http://developer.kde.org/
<11> Sho_: thanks
<14> Ace2007: i would suggest to start with ruby or python and their kde/qt bindings as its easier to start with than c++: http://developer.kde.org/language-bindings/
<0> Ace2007: also http://quality.kde.org/develop/howto/howtohack.php
<8> There must be anyone that know howto work with kxdocker? It doesn't obey at all!
<5> java is taking forever to compile :(
<0> isolationist: Hm what VM are you trying to use there? (the official one from Sun is binary-only afaik ..)
<5> Sho_: oh sorry i mean comipling the jdk from scratch
<10> hmm most of the karamba themes need double clicking
<10> and love to oipen in the same place as the first one :D
<4> is kde4 gonna be using dcop too?
<4> or something new?
<0> XVampireX: KDE 4 will use D-Bus
<9> KDE4 uses D-Bus
<4> Ah
<4> Neat
<4> d-bus is more powerful than dcop?
<0> No
<4> So why d-bus? :D
<0> Because the others are using it, too
<4> Who is "the others" ?
<0> Gnome, XFce, ROX, ...
<4> Just because of that?
<0> yup
<10> backgrounds-1.0.tar.bz2/ where is a good place to install this for gloabal?
<10> kde is in /opt/kde
<10> its for that weather++
<4> I'd prefer the more powerful one/the faster one
<0> The motivation of replacing DCOP with D-Bus is that it holds the promise of better interoperability across the various Linux desktops
<15> and apparently its not that different from dcop
<15> so not a m***ive mission to switch?
<4> heh
<4> Well, as long as d-bus improves, I guess it could be a good thing for it :P
<4> cause it seems kde is in active development and the others are not
<16> inded
<0> Well actually at this point there are a number of problems with D-Bus that still need to be solved
<0> But it's worth it anyhow
<4> heh, perhaps
<4> I still hope there will be no windows port, more problems than solutions.
<17> are there hot keys for moving windows by default in kde? left /right/max, etc?
<16> not sure expresso
<16> i'd rather use the mouse
<17> ok, i just really want to learn how to get away from the mouse
<17> it'
<10> man konq isn't hadling java scripts very well
<18> expresso: you can do alt+f3 for current window
<10> constyant error with every page I goto
<17> it's tedious, the browser lets me do it for the most prt.
<18> expresso: or ctrl+alt+shift+num lock
<18> ;)
<17> nice vipw
<18> then you can use numpad as mouse ;)
<17> i'd rather not use numpad as mouse, atl+f3 is niice
<18> expresso: you can set shortcuts for max/min windows, just search for it in control center, regional (?), keyboard shortcuts
<18> then you can set keys for moving
<8> twosouls82, XGL+Compiz? Wich distro? GFX?
<19> Hagbard_Ub: Archie (ArchLinux)
<8> Baahh
<8> Using Ubuntu... then you can't help me or something.. well..
<8> Not gonna test that now anyway
<20> hi
<19> what a pitty, but my mate uses Ubbie and has a Wobbling too :)
<20> how can i install/use icon themes for gtk applications?
<19> * -a
<21> twosouls82: do you have shortened names for every distro?
<21> ubbie? archie?
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