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<0> what's the development channel for kde?
<1> #kde-devel
<2> #kde-devel
<0> ok, thanks
<3> hello kde people
<4> hello i have a question, where do i find the .desktop file of storage media, which appears when you type system:/ in your konqueri
<4> konqueror i mean...
<5> ravermeister: there isn't any
<6> i have problem with usb memorys... how can i rename my usb memory how kde shows it?
<7> thiago: he's referring to a patch made by Kubuntu for Edgy
<5> Xemanth^^: it's an automatic name taken from the key's name
<6> yeah, but where i can see key's name and edit it... haven't found it anywhere
<4> there must be i had edited it before but i forgot the path, it is a .dekstop file, which opened media:/, but now it opens /meda
<4> an i want to change this
<5> check your ~/Desktop
<7> ravermeister: ask in #kubuntu-devel if you want.. they're the ones who made the changes..
<4> thx
<8> hibread, is kpowersave only for laptops or is it applicable to desktop pcs as well?
<8> sorry thats meant to be hi not hibread lol, long night
<5> for desktops as well
<5> but don't you mean klaptopdaemon?
<8> cool...im emerging it now.
<4> i've found it /usr/share/apps/systemview/media.desktop
<4> :)
<4> bye
<8> nah im after something to put my hard drives to sleep when not in use
<9> hey all
<8> ive got a desktop pc
<7> ravermeister: told yah they'd know :)
<7> hi mangz74!
<4> right
<10> kavorka^: you could try using laptop_mode
<8> ok
<10> http://www.samwel.tk/laptop_mode/
<5> kavorka^: hdparm
<8> also does anyone use cpufreq on a desktop? is it worth it?
<7> canllaith: submitted the Konqueror Access Keys patch to kfm-devel
<10> Jucato: cool
<7> no more pretty yellow boxes :)
<7> http://jucato.org/stuff/kcontrol_accesskeys.png
<10> kavorka^: worth it for what? Cooling maybe? Sure. Keep the fans quiet?
<10> I can't think of any other reason to use it on a desktop
<8> canllaith, for saving power when the pc is idle...like when im away at work
<10> Fair enough. Sure. you can set up cpufreq to do 'ondemand' which will throttle the CPU to the lowest when it is idle.
<8> thing is i have tried ondemand and conservative governors but the pc is too sluggish, ie it takes too long to speed up to max, if that makes sense
<10> and ramp it up as soon as it's under load
<8> well the 'ramping' is too slow
<5> ondemand = go to max and scale down if it's not needed
<5> conservative = keep at minimum and increase if needed
<10> I tendt o manually switch between performance and ondemand
<5> you can tune the parameters to ramp up or down faster
<5> same here
<8> ok so ondemand is what i need
<5> I switch to performance if I need compiling
<8> interesting...i will look into the conf file
<10> Same, or force powersave if I want to try and make the fan turn off for silent laptop
<5> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
<6> i have in kicker two buttons "Speed!" and "Powersave!"
<5> my computer automatically switches to powersave and 25% throttling if running on batteries
<2> Jucato: Lose the "/disable", btw
<5> and mode 2 laptop-mode in the kernel
<7> Sho_: uh oh... I've sent it already...
<6> Powersave tunes with aticonfig core and mem to powersave mode and forces cpu mhz to 800mhz
<6> and governor to powersave
<8> or really what i want to do is maybe limit the range from 300- 3ghz to say 1ghz -3 ghz, so its not that sluggish
<10> That you can certainly do in the config file.
<10> You must be using p4_clockmod to get that range surely
<8> cool, yep ill look into it
<8> canllaith, yes i man
<8> am*
<10> :)
<7> Sho_: what would be the problem with the "/disable"?
<10> but too tired to really do anything interesting
<2> Jucato: It's inconsistent with every other checkbox in KDE ;). The label text is supposed to describe what effect ticking the checkbox has, and that would be to enable the access key popups.
<7> Sho_: it should describe what effect ticking the checkbox has, even if it's ticked by default?
<10> Definitely yes. This is a user interface consistancy issue.
<2> Jucato: Yes
<2> Jucato: Look at your own screenshot, it's not "Enable/Disable the completion of forms" or "Hide/Unhide the tab bar" either
<2> Jucato: That it's a two-state setting is conveyed by the checkbox itself
<7> hm... :)
<7> ok changing...
<7> if I reply to my own sent mail to kfm-devel in KMail, it will be put under the correct thread, right?
<2> Jucato: "Enable/Disable" makes it unclear what effect ticking the checkbox actually has (when I check it, do I disable? enable? what?). To be clear and consistent with KDE's guidelines, a checked box would enable it, an unchecked box would disable it, and the label text would be "Enable ...".
<10> Jucato: yes
<7> Sho_: how about the QWhatsThis text?
<2> Jucato: yup
<2> Jucato: The tooltip is fine save for a spelling error - you need to add a "dot" after effect
<7> ugh :)
<2> Or better yet go with canllaith's version
<2> :)
<10> Except you should look up what things are called because I'm terrible like that
<10> is it checking a box? ticking a box? is it a checkbox or a....
<7> ticking a checkbox?
<10> and it is indeed a checkbox, so I guess you tick a checkbox
<10> argh. I have no powermanagement software running.
<7> Sho_, canllaith: Enable Access Ke&y activation with Ctrl key - Ticking this checkbox enables KDE's Access Keys to be activiated by pressing the Ctrl Key. Konqueror needs to be restarted for changes to take effect."
<2> Jucato: If I weren't familiar with the feature, "Access Key activation" would tell me basically nothing
<2> Jucato: It's also factually wrong I believe, because disabling the popups doesn't stop the access keys from working
<7> huh?
<2> Jucato: So you might want to work popups in there (after varifying that my belief is true ;)
<10> "Ticking this checkbox enables Konqeuror's access keys to display small popup letters for keyboard navigation'
<10> perhaps
<7> good night canllaith
<7> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Disable_the_accessibility_squares_CTRL_button_normally_activates_in_Konqueror_aka_Access_Keys_
<10> Selamat Malaam, Gute Nacht, Bonne nuit!
<7> :)
<11> Heh, I read that as Traumaland
<2> Jucato: In HTML, you can give elements an access key via an attribute in the source. That allows website authors to add accelerators to widgets, similar to what we do in KDE UIs. KHTML has an accessiblity feature by which pressing Ctrl, which is half of the key combo for an access key, shows popups with the access keys alongside the respective page elements. I don't think disabling the popups disables the access keys.
<7> Sho_: it disables access keys entirely
<2> Jucato: If so, "Access Key activation" (activating the access keys?) would be both wrong/vague
<7> just ran it in my KDE 3.5.5 build
<7> so just plain "Enables Access Keys"?
<7> er
<7> "Enable Access Keys"
<7> Enable Access Ke&ys - Ticking this checkbox enables KDE's Access Keys, which are activiated by pressing the Ctrl Key. Konqueror needs to be restarted for changes to take effect.
<5> Jucato: do you disable access keys or just their showing up?
<7> thiago: disable them
<2> If disabling the popups actually disables the access key functionality, I'd call that a bug and the fix would be to decouble it
<2> *decouple
<12> access keys are useless if you have no idea which key is for which link
<7> why would it be a bug?
<5> benJIman: you may know which keys they are
<12> could be a bug if it doesn't disable the keys
<2> benJIman: There are certain standards p***ed down by word of mouths, i.e. Ctrl+S for Submit
<7> I think those are different
<5> IMO, the best solution for this would be:
<5> 1) use another shortcut than Ctrl
<5> no, changing my mind
<7> heh I'm just trying to give a GUI face to a hidden setting here...
<5> use Ctrl for activating them, but another shortcut for seeing them
<5> like holding Ctrl down for 3 secs
<2> Jucato: Because the reason people want that option is to disable the squares which they find annoying, not to disable the access key functionality
<7> Sho_: can you give me a page that has that Ctrl+S for Submit, so I could test?
<12> Sho_: that's the most annoying one, as control-s for save is often a force of habit while typing
<12> so you press control-s from habit and submit a half written email
<2> benJIman: hehe :)
<7> actually, they want to disable both
<5> but usability people are going to have an attack if we turn a feature on with no visual indication
<7> Access Keys are on by default.
<5> not that
<2> Well, access keys - without visual popups - are enabled in all other browsers, I think: Firefox, Opera, IE ...
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