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<0> You can use gtk-engines-qt to get GTK apps to use your QT theme but is there any way of getting Qt apps to use your GTK theme?
<1> Enverex, #gnome
<0> eastwood, It's dead, so I thought someone in here may know
<1> i rly dunno
<2> gnome seems to be getting less and less popular
<2> i think people just love their slots and signals too much :)
<1> i hate gnome myself
<1> kde has much more app integration
<2> i don't hate gnome
<2> but i find it weird to work with
<3> Well, there's no point in gnome-bashing really, they're on our side vs closed source desktops
<1> well 'hate' was an harsh word
<1> i just avoid using it and support kde
<0> What's wrong with Gnome?
<4> is there anything wrong?
<2> it lacks versatility
<2> and it's file dialogue is pure evil
<1> indeed
<2> it's fairly inconsistent
<1> just check in firefox :/
<5> (Remember: Every time you open a GTK+ file picker dialog, god kills a kitten!)
<2> i wish gtk apps could just use the kde file dialogue
<4> what's the matter with it?
<0> I suppose the fact there isn't a pause before things open is the benefit..
<5> SimAtWork_, eastwood: Check out KGtk on KDE-apps.org, which allows Firefox, Gimp and other GTK apps to use the KDE file dialog
<1> cool
<1> is there a .deb ?
<0> I can't decide which to use. KDE is "better" 'but Gnome seems much more faster and nimble...
<5> dunno ... I'm on Gentoo
<6> Enverex: I heard otherwise, but I use gnome... and it does seem quite fast.
<5> Enverex: Hm I disagree heavily ... I find GTK+ sluggish in general
<4> me I find both as slow
<6> :P
<0> XVampireX, I've used all for extended periods, Konqurer is the biggest pain, big lag before it opens...
<7> hehehe i find QT much better :p although things like qtparted and qtella are a bit messed up
<4> konqurer?
<2> qtparted works well for me
<2> Enverex: lag?
<2> Enverex: i get no lag from konq
<2> Enverex: can you explain?
<1> me neither
<4> konqueror?
<8> not me
<7> Konqueror laggy???? well either way i'd rather have "laggy" (konqueror) than buggy (nautilus) :)
<6> SimAtWork_, yeah, it happens with alot of programs, they take a LOT of time to start
<6> Nautilus no way buggy
<2> XVampireX: you might want to check your dns server settings
<1> you dont have a 486 do you?
<6> I wonder
<6> SimAtWork_, why?
<2> XVampireX: whenever someone complains about that i've found that's what caused it
<2> a dns request that timed out
<2> or took a long time to complete
<7> XVampireX, I remember nautilus not too long ago (about 3 years maybe a bit less) it used to crash no end and ask if i wanted to restart it
<4> first instance of konqueror loads instantly here, so it seems the preloading stuff is working
<6> SimAtWork_, not really, I run 1.5ghz 256mbram
<7> "the application nautilus has quit unexpectedly" was the norm not too long ago
<0> NthDegree, Can't say I've had any bug issues.
<2> XVampireX: that should be a lot
<2> XVampireX: also konq does check the file type before opening.
<2> so it opens in the right thing
<2> but that shouldn't cause a noticable slow down unless the server you are requesting from is slow
<6> Yeah, but just like open office, everything loaded slowly
<4> do you need an extension for text files?
<0> Yeah, when I don't have any Konqueror windows open and try and open say my home folder there is like a second long pause first
<6> Not just konqueror
<6> Second long pause? :P
<6> That's FAST
<4> Enverex: don't you have one instance preloaded?
<0> XVampireX, With Nautilus it's less than half a second, if barely over 100ms
<0> Virtually instant
<6> Enverex, I'm doing something wrong
<9> So is it possible to run a single app with a different KDEDIRS without running kdeinit and screwing up my current kdeinit?
<0> shining, I set it to, but it doesn't seem to help (although it should)
<4> seems to work here
<6> Enverex, It seems to me that I can run things much faster when the program already runs, but not on start up... I.E: Even with firefox, I can run firefox once and then when I open up new windows, it works almost in an instant
<6> But when loading firefox, it usually takes at least 5-10 seconds
<0> hmm, I'd emerge KDE on Gentoo but it installs FAR too much pointless crap, heh, I'll have to do it manually (I really dont need the kids stuff and educational things)
<6> If not more
<2> XVampireX: you might want to try hdparm
<9> Enverex: So don't emerge the whole of kde ;)
<0> XVampireX, That's a standalong app though, not PART of Gnome
<6> SimAtWork_, What's that?
<2> XVampireX: it will test your hard drive speed and also allow you to tweak it
<9> Enverex: Look into the split ebuilds, you can install just what you want
<2> XVampireX: careful with the tweaking though
<6> I'm not a techie :P
<0> edeca, I know, but then I need to find all the little packages I do want
<2> use it to view only then
<6> Don't think I'll be able to handle HARDWARE tweaks
<2> check to see if 'dma" is enabled
<4> thanks god I didn't have to compile kde
<2> if it's not, i'll help you get it enabled
<5> Enverex: You'd want to emerge either kdebase-meta or kdebase-startkde for smaller setups
<9> Enverex: In that case, just emerge kdepim-meta or whatever and don't install kdeedu-meta
<6> SimAtWork_, Do I have it installed if I use ubuntu?
<2> XVampireX: possible, start a terminal and type sudo hdparm /dev/hda
<2> XVampireX: possible, start a terminal and type: sudo hdparm /dev/hda
<6> SimAtWork_, yeah, gave me some statistics
<6> dma is enabled
<9> XVampireX: hdparm -d will let you set or check it, too.
<6> edeca: Oh, hehe
<2> XVampireX: hrm
<2> XVampireX: run top
<2> XVampireX: it will tell you how much memory you have use dand how much swap is used
<2> although that alone isn't enough to determine if you need more memory
<9> XVampireX: Don't forget that things will be preloaded and cached if you have already run them
<6> edeca: Hehe, yeah.
<9> XVampireX: The linux scheduler and such now are very clever at working out what you are running, so can prioritise
<10> Hi all, does any one know how to enable temperature monitoring in kde3.5 on suse10.0
<10> I can do it in my bios
<9> staroin: Look into lm-sensors, get that working, then use ksensors
<6> SimAtWork_, most likely need more memory, and I use RDRAM... I'll have to wait a little bit longer till I can upgrade my PC totally
<10> edeca: thank you
<4> can anyone use lmsensors with a laptop?
<9> shining: I have done.
<1> sure
<9> shining: It can be crappy with dell one though :(
<9> s/one/ones
<4> ha, I think it isn't even possible with mines
<0> 122MB of source to compile and that's excluding kdelibs and all the other things already installed =/
<5> Enverex: For what, exactly?
<9> shining: Some have hardware chips that ****.
<0> Sho_, KDE
<5> Enverex: As I wrote above, if you want to install a smaller setup to start with, emerge either kdebase-meta or kdebase-startkde
<0> Sho_, That IS the those meta
<0> *s
<0> kdebase-meta, kdebase-startkde and kdenetwork-meta
<5> Enverex: kdebase-startkde is a subset of kdebase-meta, so you don't need to emerge both, that is redundant
<0> Sho_, It is? hmm, I didn't see those parts of it but it wont matter anyway
<5> Enverex: Well it won't change what Portage does of course, just mentioning for completeness' sake
<6> Sho_, Can Konqueror in KDE4 use the Gecko engine as an alternative?
<11> okie... quadkonsole takes a little getting used to
<0> I just remember KDE used to feel less responsive and I don't get to have 2 bars like I do in Gnome, heh, I like "quicklaunch" icons, lots of them, heh
<5> XVampireX: No
<11> if you're running the same app in all of them
<6> Sho_, why? :D
<5> Enverex: You can have as many bars as you want in KDE ;)
<6> Sho_, Alot of website render really bad at konqueror
<5> Enverex: And personally, I find KDE faster than Gnome, but YMMV
<6> Sho_, Including the whole screen? :P
<6> YMMV?
<5> XVampireX: Because nobody is working on it
<5> Your Mileage May Vary
<6> Ah, hehe
<6> Sho_, Yeah, I'm wondering, why is it everyone has different experiences with linux?
<0> Sho_, I don't see how that's possible considering how much heavier everything in KDE is... not to mention when I run a KDE app it echos lots of things into the console and takes about a second to appear rather than being immediate
<6> Sho_, and I mean not just good or bad, I mean, for example, for someone one hardware will work, while for another, it seems, that same hardware WILL work.
<9> XVampireX: Why is it that some people like different cars? :)
<5> XVampireX: Because it depends heavily on the compile-time, link-time and software choices the distributions make
<12> gn8
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