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<0> on screen display lib
<1> x on-screen-display
<2> meh... xosd-bin ... which doesn't depend anything gtk or gdk here... weird
<0> it doesn't depend on it... it's a compile time option
<2> (also, libxosd2 doesn't depend any of that either..)
<0> see above
<2> I was typing 'either' had to hit enter ;)
<3> cuz your binary was built without xosd support?
<0> I wonder sometimes about these people that use binaries built by someone else... what trust they must have :)
<3> "in binaries we trust"
<0> *cough*
<2> Usually, all options are turned on, and things are Recommends or Suggests to turn that on :/
<4> yeah really. i mean *anyone* can forge an sha1 sum
<2> Anything useful at least... xosd for hotkeys doesn't seem useful
<0> visual display of volume
<2> Renze: hmmz... that'd be annoying, but valid
<2> kmilo is probably best recommendation in here anyways... but never seen someone use it for debian, only hotkeys
<2> I knew it works in his situation, so recommended it, sorry
<0> I'm glad I don't use a debian based distro then :D
<2> Renze: because I've never seen one using kmilo?
<2> Good reasoning
<0> no, because debian users have to use hotkeys to get things working :D
<5> I dont know what Im doing here, I have a cups server with a working printer, but I cant figure out how to print to it thru kde
<2> Renze: kmilo is in the archive... there is no "have to" just "I know this works"
<5> the server is a remote machine
<2> Renze: there are almost 20,000 packages in Sid at the moment... anything useful that has source code is almost certainly in the archive...
<6> etch out yet?
<2> rr72: december ... which means thing are going to slow down soon... ****ty
<6> i would go to it but happy with kubuntu
<6> sarg couldnt use my pci SATA controller
<0> lunitik: kmilo is part of, and ships with, KDE
<2> rr72: www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ... see if you have any better luck with that?
<6> lunitik~ not going to try debian
<6> im sticking with kubuntu, everything is set how i like it
<2> rr72: you're already using a crippled Debian :/
<6> lunitik~ go to #kubuntu and talk there cause i don't care
<2> rr72: why would I go there?
<0> that's what trolls do
<6> idk u tell me
<2> My IQ drops a point for every minute I spend in *ubuntu channels
<3> yay
<0> so you can only spend six minutes in there? :D
<2> Renze: I spent a few hours there recently, still recovering :(
<1> so if i understand this properly, with Qt4, KDE4 apps can run in a console, like ncurses apps?
<2> unity: where'd you read that?
<2> Renze: I'm no troll... just have soft spots that I can't control I guess...
<2> Renze: working on it, sorry
<6> is tehre a way to remotely lock kde like hitting the lock button but from cmd line? eg: i can ssh in and type a cmd and it can be locked?
<0> dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock, but it requires getting access to the user's instance of dcop and I have yet to learn how to do that.
<2> rr72: kdesktop_lock ?
<2> Its a binary, not sure how useful remotely?
<6> can it screw up ICAuthority?
<6> that has happened to me
<6> if i use -X or forward C
<6> *X
<0> no idea... never tried it
<1> lunitik: i don't remember where...its just in the back of my head
<1> lunitik: i couldn't find it again, so i came here to verify
<0> unity: I haven't heard a thing about that
<7> hey guys, is there anyway i can make it so that the address bar in konqueror is proportional to the size of the window
<1> Renze: oh then i guess i must have been thinking of Qt-console or something
<0> unity: no idea
<7> so it doesn't go on two lines if i have a small window
<1> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre3/16214-3.jpg <-- can someone look at this and tell me if i need some special packages to make the windows decoration tranparent like it in the screenshot, or if standard kwin can do that?
<0> unity: crystal windeco
<8> has anyone else noticed more breakage recently with konqueror and gmail?
<8> aseigo: isnt that reputed to be a bit buggy?
<8> and, honestly, for a windec, I think I would prefer the pseudo-transparency over true transparency
<0> Dhraakellian: I get all my gmail via kmail, so I never use the website
<8> since I can control what wallpaper I have on my desktops. Random webbrowser text underneath a titlebar would probably a) make the titlebar text less readable and b) be less pretty than my wallpaper
<8> although I will admit that the titlebar text isn't alwasy the most readable with my crystal settings and font size
<8> and the "vista"-style buttons actually aren't too bad
<5> can I print to a cups server without installing fancy software on the workstation?
<1> grr...the theme manager doesn't remember or save my kwin titlebar buttons settings
<9> lol.. same o here Renze .. bout a dozen an now soon more gmail accts.. all fed into even more custom folders n filters on kmail
<10> my internet is ****ed
<9> its cause your stoned ;]
<8> define "fancy software"
<5> Dhraakellian, like another cups installation?
<9> sorry stoned .. been quite awhile mate.. had to say it.. lame o and old as hills.. but sit my bhangg aside a sec and looked up and... well.. yano ;]]
<10> lol
<10> I haven't had bhang in a while
<8> afaik, you do need to have cups installed and cupsd running
<10> last time I had almost 1 gallon, mixed with ground ***orted nuts and dried fruit and condensed milk and honey and umm.. got you ****ed up too
<10> I was on some m***ive halucinations for almost 2 days
<9> been awhile since i hadnt had one too stoned ................................... oh wait.. slite diff tween our lines there .. ahem.. nm then ............... eville snickerzzz
<10> bhang is traditional in india
<10> eveyrone drinks at Holi and then we get ****edup and stuff
<10> religious ya know
<9> talkn to 1st da trees then them there trees' godz in colors next in line were we stoned ?
<10> dude
<9> hehe
<10> you should lay down before you hurt yourself
<9> or was it the godz talk to you at that level..
<10> seriously, or at least wear a helmet, please
<9> haha
<9> fiar enough
<1> do you guys know about Virtual in xorg.conf? is there some way to delegate that functionality from the xserver to KDE? then fullscreen apps would work, and on-screen notifications could be visible, even if i'm looking at the other corner of the desktop
<5> I cant figure out hot to use KDE for IPP
<10> I can't figure out why superman returned
<11> anyone know where i can find the knotes plugin for aero aio? cant seem to find it on kde-look.org.
<12> hey, is it possible to write a program that creates a system tray icon in KDE without linking to KDE libraries?
<13> mokkan: you can use ksystraycmd to attach any app to the system tray, i don't know if it works for non-kde apps, but give it a look
<12> thanks qupada :)
<9> hello qupada ;]
<13> hey tech9iner. what's new?
<9> fighting the good fight yano qupada ;]].. cant say otherwise.. ;].. cups n printer breakn me gonads.. but alive n kicking ;].. alls well u?
<13> lol, not so bad. just trying to spread my new cellphone number to everyone who might possibly have my old one
<13> gone from prepaid to contract and had to take a new number
<9> hahaha
<9> qupada dija see the razor celly tv spot in gym dudes on treadmills yet ?
<9> killed me here 1st view.. really funny idea
<13> tech9iner: maybe, but i wouldn't buy one, those phones are absolute rubbish
<13> what printer have you got anyway? i've been forced to deal with some of cups' worst features recently
<9> o mate..
<9> i broke me cups bout 2 wks back
<9> 1s time qupada in 5 yrs on linux
<13> my printer gets a 3/3 on linuxprinting.org though, while i had to deal with the worst cups had to offer, the printer itself presents no serious challenges
<9> same workg prnr all this time till i tried ignorANTly to improve output and align fresh ink heads on my win prnr pos hp 712c deskjet
<13> you use hp-toolbox or something for that?
<9> only to realize 700 series hp winprinrs bout least supprtd modesl qupada lol
<9> well was trying too
<13> from the hplip toolkit?
<9> only AFter i found out this prnr wont talk to hptoolbox anyway
<9> right.. now
<9> ive since removed cups n reinstalled
<13> first things first
<13> cups 1.1 or 1.2
<13> ?
<9> dugg round 4 2 wks for best driver/ppd for it
<9> lemme
<9> check
<13> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_712C
<9> cups-1.1.23-21.2 qupada
<13> ok, 1.1
<9> yep .. seen that page..
<13> so you're using its 'recommended' driver?
<9> mof that pg is where i later.. belatedly o course grrrr.. read '''' oes not work with PCL drivers (as "hpijs", "gimp-print", "cdjXXX", "pcl3", ...) '''
<9> ;]
<9> yessir
<13> printers that get 3/3 penguins should not cause much, if any trouble
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