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<0> arch :)
<1> :)
<1> well my cronjob ran pacman 15 mins ago
<2> El_Presidente: ask them... its not released yet...
<1> :-D
<1> great
<2> El_Presidente: shouldn't be using devel branches without expecting breakages
<2> Sho_: shush :P
<1> *sigh*
<3> El_Presidente: The fonts are okay in your KDE apps, though? Firefox isn't a KDE app, you know ..
<2> El_Presidente: Don't sigh, you installed from a devel branch... if its was meant for general use, it'd be in the stable branch
<1> Sho_, i agree
<1> lunitik, no i dont use unstable repositorys
<2> El_Presidente: then how did you get 3.5.4?
<3> El_Presidente: Err, it's not about agreeing or disagreeing ;). Is the font problem limited to Firefox or not?
<4> fonts and X are always a problem
<1> well it seems its in extra
<2> Sho_: Sid seems to have similar issues on *64 ...
<1> Sho_, but why did it work till 3.5.3 ?
<0> El_Presidente: how is xft configured in fonts control center?
<3> El_Presidente: Hmm, do you use gtk-qt-engine?
<1> dont know
<2> Sho_: imo, thats worse than being in a devel branch... arch has it in their stable :/
<3> El_Presidente: If you have a "GTK Styles and Fonts" item in KControl -> Appearance, try setting to font to your liking there and restarting Firefox
<3> lunitik: Yeah, just put Arch on my mental ****list :-)
<1> kk i will look
<2> Sho_: well, actually, technically extra isn't stable... its unsupported stuff... but yeah, most of their users use it... no desktops etc are in stable for them :/
<3> lunitik: Although the release is probably going to happen tomorrow AFAICT
<0> usually, these things go in testing first
<4> Speaking of release, anyone has a roadmap for kde 4?
<2> mbishop: wir
<3> mbishop: There isn't one yet
<4> lunitik: I know that, I ment like a status page, or a roadmap for predictions or some
<1> well a reset of the font settings helped
<4> something*
<1> ty :)
<4> Sho_: hmm? pretty sure I saw one somewhere
<3> mbishop: There's some talk about putting out a technical preview before the end of the year, that's about it
<2> mbishop: I'm not even sure they've decided what it will include yet... let alone a roadmap
<3> mbishop: Well there's http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html but the date given for the TP is utterly unreliable so there might as well be none
<4> I remember seeing a bunch of stuff mentioning how they will drop arts, and use Qt4
<2> mbishop: those things are a given ;)
<4> Would hope so
<4> :P
<3> mbishop: http://phonon.kde.org/ http://solid.kde.org/ http://plasma.kde.org/ http://appeal.kde.org/ all hold info on KDE4 stuff
<2> mbishop: things like solid, phanon, plasma etc are far from final design afaik
<3> lunitik: You may mean the new PIM backend, Akonadi
<3> http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/
<4> http://wiki.kde.org/KDE+4+Goals seems like a pretty good page
<2> Sho_: no... something to replace kopete seems like
<3> mbishop: It's a wiki page however, so not an official, hard-fact document of any kind
<3> lunitik: I'm not aware of something like that
<4> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-features.html heh, that's a lot of features :)
<5> Sho_: Wikis can be authorative and official
<2> Sho_: I can't find it atm either... I recall seeing it in a blog though... has a webpage @ kde.org and everything I just can't find it :(
<3> mbishop: The feature plan documents are also near-useless; when a release happens all unfinished items from the last feature plan are copied to the next one, i.e.some of those items have been lingering their for years
<3> *there
<3> CyberSpy: This one isn't :)
<4> Sho_: indeed, but I imagine at a major release like 4.0, they'll try for all they can get
<0> ha that's it
<0> "Properly disable antialiasing by also setting the xrdb resource."
<6> hi
<3> mbishop: Well, if we all get to finish our TODOs, 4.0 will be done around 2015 some time
<0> it's right, it was always set to 1 before
<0> now antialiasing is correctly disabled
<4> shining_: eh?
<0> :)
<6> how can i set "preview in kaffeine" as default for video files?
<4> shining_: where are you reading this?
<0> kde changelog?
<4> shining_: oh
<5> fir3st0rm: In kcontrol
<3> mbishop: He's referring to http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_3to3_5_4.php
<4> thanks
<6> CyberSpy: where in kcontrol?
<5> fir3st0rm: Have you looked in KDE Components?
<6> yes
<7> kcontrol -> kde components -> file ***ociations
<5> And you didn't see File ***ociations?
<8> Hello all, one question: what was the program, with which you can recover deleted files from a vfat partition?
<6> oh ok
<4> Sho_: as for the 2015 comment, that's what happens when you use C++
<6> CyberSpy: i tried setting it up in that menu already, no success :/
<3> mbishop: Perhaps, but there aren't any alternatives either
<4> Sho_: why not
<4> Sho_: what are the requirements
<3> mbishop: I can't think of one, anyway :)
<4> :P
<6> CyberSpy: what do i have to set there? i tried some things, but i wasn't able to set kaffeine preview yet
<3> mbishop: Right .. ;)
<7> mbishop: hey that's not emacs...
<4> heh
<7> emacs has its OS already...
<7> :P
<4> emacs isn't CL though :P
<3> mbishop: I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain**** is being seriously underestimated as an application programming language, too
<4> Sho_: I was being serious about that common lisp comment :)
<6> CyberSpy: works for .mp4 files, but not for .avi...let's see
<3> mbishop: You know, if you take the number of programmers who productively use C++, and the percentage of those who work on KDE, and project that ratio on the Common LISP userbase, you get the thumbnail of the left little finger of one programmer
<6> CyberSpy: after setting filename patterns it works :)
<3> mbishop: And one thumbnail won't write a desktop environment
<4> Sho_: And? just because lots of people use windows doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job, same with C++ :)
<9> Name a better way of seeing through walls :)
<3> mbishop: That wasn't my argument. My argument was that you won't get a Common LISP-based desktop environment project of the ground because you won't find enough programmers.
<4> Sho_: common lisp KDE is just a dream of course, you are right that there are not enough CL programmers to produce something like KDE (unless there were a few very dedicated ones :P), but I'm just saying I don't see C++ as useful in any way
<3> mbishop: The real world intruding upon an utopia, I'm afraid :)
<4> The "real world" is full of idiots who believe that Java was going to be the best programming language ever...
<3> mbishop: Batten down the hatches because it looks like KDE might get an influx of Java programmers not before too long ;)
<10> I think jambi is best news in years
<3> I'm ambivalent about it, because I hate the Java ecosphere
<3> But it's obviously an opportunity for KDE in the corporate space
<10> Sho_: kde currently has no usable bindings for java or .net
<3> benJIman: I know
<10> where is the rest of the computing world going, towards such platforms, what do all new developers learn, those platforms, what can't they program kde with, those
<3> benJIman: But if Trolltech does decide to launch Jambi as a product, it's only a matter of time
<10> Sho_: well there needs to be kde bindings too, not just Qt, and preferably c# for mono, as java isn't free
<2> Sho_: finally found it... grr... that took forever: http://decibel.kde.org/
<4> Yeah, again a case of the "real world" latching to a stupid technology just because microsoft pushes it
<2> Sho_: supposed to be similar to telepathy in the gnome camp... (possibly to use the same backend...)
<3> benJIman: As I said, I'm ambivalent about the whole thing. Java support certainly holds the opportunity for the KDE platform to be more relevant and attractive, especially in the corporate space. At the same time, I really don't like the Java toolset or its ecosphere of overdesigned corporate crap, and I believe the trend to use Java as a teaching language is producing mediocre programmers.
<3> benJIman: We'll see how things develop over the next few years
<10> the trend is to higher level, I don't think that has changed
<3> lunitik: Haven't seen any of that in the wild yet, I've got to say ...
<10> Sho_: why do you think i'ts producing bad programmers?
<2> Sho_: I don't know whether any of its even functional yet... although Gossip is becoming a Telepathy client, thats all I know...
<2> Sho_: someone briefly stated decibel in a blog on planet kde, so all I know about it is whats on the site too
<11> hi benji
<10> evening fred87
<3> benJIman: Joel says it better than me: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html
<11> eg "declare every variable 'volattile'
<10> heh :p
<11> *volatile
<10> Sho_: not sure I agree very much with that article
<11> makes my screw-other-people-ripping-off-my-non-free-code tricks just a little bit more subtle
<10> Sho_: it's better to be able to concentrate on the algorithms etc than the unimportant details of the implementation
<10> Sho_: and the author seems to think you can't use recursion in java for some reason
<10> I think even higher level languages like haskell are better for teaching
<10> not seen rdale blog about jambi yet
<11> benJIman: hmm, no?
<10> I was saying, was expecting to see one, maybe he's away
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