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<0> well that's easy
<0> why didn't he just say so
<1> rob__, how much memory _do_ you have? O.o
<2> pstickne: 3.5gb
<3> Jan-: Lol. :-P
<2> 6 x 512mb, 2 x 256mb
<0> When do I get to put my "fairly clever coder" hat on?
<2> :)
<3> Lol
<1> rob__, :((
<3> You can have mine. :-P
<2> pstickne: why the sad face?
<1> rob__, it's more then double what I have :x
<0> I can't change what "this" refers to, can I.
<1> rob__, how'd you get "stuck" with two smaller sticks?
<3> Jan-: 'fraid not. :-)
<2> pstickne: hah
<0> Twey_: Okay. The problem I have is that my inner function was originally designed to work on "this" a lot, and making it a returned function as part of a closure messes up what "this" now refers to.
<2> right now i have too many windows to count open including windows xp running in virtualpc (emulating the cpu)
<0> So I have a big, ugly, global variable called wwsCurrentWin
<0> There has to be a better way
<4> hey all - i use the getElementByID function - and i put new html in a div - and theres an img in the element but in IE the image never shows up
<0> I guess I could p*** an object reference
<3> Jan-: Uuurgh.
<3> Jan-: You have a big ugly global namespace.
<3> Jan-: Then put everything else inside it.
<0> I have lots of big, ugly globality, yes.
<0> Part of "preparing this code for human consumption" is to reduce its globality a bit.
<0> A lot.
<3> Jan-: As for changing what "this" refers to
<2> pstickne: http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8647/exposefg3.jpg is the power of ram :)
<3> Jan-: You can use Function.apply() and Object.call()
<0> I could do what now?
<3> Jan-: Say you had a function called a
<0> Mmhmm
<3> Jan-: If you a.apply(b) it will call a, and all references to "this" inside a will refer to b
<3> Jan-: b.call(a) has the same effect
<0> I need this to refer to a dom object not a function
<3> Jan-: It'll work with any object
<0> That causes an intrinsic problem
<3> Jan-: Hm?
<0> I just went to a ton of trouble to ensure that a() gets a load of variables in its scope
<0> if I have to call it explicitly as myDomObject.call(a), it will be outside that scope again
<0> I'd have to do myDomObject.call(thisFuncReturnsAFunc())
<0> if I can
<3> Jan-: That should work
<0> this really is going to be a glittering example of advanced JS coding techniques
<0> Twey_: How d'you know my code is so.... global?
<3> Jan-: You said so? :-P
<0> Oh, OK.
<3> Jan-: And I've seen it. ;-)
<0> Ah.
<1> rob__, you are insane
<0> I guess when I make all this a bit more modular, I should wrap all the functions for one module in a large object or something.
<1> rob__, now, send me your mac :x
<3> Jan-: That's called a namespace. :-P
<2> pstickne: i only paid for it
<0> A what now?
<3> Jan-: That's what I was talking about earlier
<1> rob__, I'm actually drooling over the new T60 thinkpads...
<3> Jan-: A namespace is a ruddy big object, usually global, in which you put everything.
<1> rob__, but there is no need for me to upgrade so *shrug*
<2> pstickne: dual 1.8 G5, 3.5gb ram.. then I replaced the hard disks and now have a RAID0 setup :) i'm content
<3> Jan-: Well -- not global as such.
<0> Well I have four modules right now.
<3> Jan-: It tends to get put inside window.
<1> rob__, add another HD and get RAID5.
<0> Core, Clock, Xbrowser and Log
<0> I guess they should have one each
<2> pstickne: only 2 HDD bays
<3> Jan-: What happened to Clock? I don't see it any more.
<1> rob__, did it come with the monitor? (It's the Cinema, right?)
<0> I turned it off, it was causing problems with the new closure establishment of wwsSetScrollbars()
<2> pstickne: tower only
<0> at this stage, changes to Core that cause problems in other modules will be considered bugs in the external modules.
<3> Jan-: Ah right
<2> pstickne: it's hooked up to a 19" acer until I get my 24" sorted
<0> Clock does some funky stuff with resizing when it inits. I'll debug it later.
<3> Jan-: Lol. A Microsoftian approach? :-P
<1> rob__, I was going to say to had a killer of a deal if it came with the monitor -- bought my brother a 20" last christmas. damn, they're pricey.
<0> Twey_: No, Clock is not release code yet :)
<0> Hang on.
<3> Jan-: Haha, point :-P
<0> If I do this:
<0> wwsCurrentScrollWin.setScrollBars=wwsScrollCache();
<2> pstickne: hell yes they are. i wouldn't buy an apple monitor, i'd go for a dell or LG
<0> then when setScrollbars() is called, "this" will indeed refer to wwsCurrentScrollWin
<0> ....won't it?
<3> Jan-: Yes
<2> pstickne: right now i dont have desk space for a bigger monitor than this though
<1> rob__, they use the same lcd core as some of the dell's ... but I dislike dell brand. also, doesn't lg use its own?
<2> pstickne: some of the LGs are nice. especially the 20" they have here, it's a fantastic panel
<1> rob__, that is why iMacs are such a steal these days -- the 20" screen is so gorgeous ;)
<0> hey guys, I have a Dell 2405FPW :)
<2> pstickne: yeah - the screen would set you back 1/3 the cost easily
<1> Jan-, nice
<0> *snicker*
<2> pstickne: they max out at 2gb ram though so are no good
<1> rob__, I know ;X
<0> And much good may it do me!
<3> Lol
<1> rob__, depends on application. but 512mb is definately the lower-limit.
<3> :-(
<2> pstickne: I mainly do print design. I wouldn't use less than 2gb
<5> Hey
<1> rob__, I do ... no design. 1.5GB is more then plenty.
<5> I have an unordered list and want to add one item to that
<5> how do I do that?
<3> Mine's a Compaq P920... got it for off a friend ^_^
<5> preferably in a specific place
<1> dazjorz, you mean you have an array?
<2> pstickne: I like to have photoshop, illustrator and indesign open. Those three can easily use 1gb each if you're not careful
<3> dazjorz: e.appendChild(document.createElement("li"));
<1> dazjorz, if you mean hash/object then, just as you said "unordered"
<5> pstickne: no, err, when the user clicks a link, i want to add one item to the list, in a specific place
<0> Is it good practice to do a.call(b) just to be able to use "this" inside b(), and to save ugly globals?
<5> Twey_: Yeah, thats append, comes after the last one, i need it in the middle or something
<1> Twey_, might be more on-track then ;)
<3> dazjorz: It makes much more sense to have it already there, but invisible.
<5> Twey_: Yeah, better idea
<5> Twey_: How do I make it invisible?
<3> dazjorz: Set .style.display = "none"
<5> Twey_: CSS or javascript? =/
<3> dazjorz: Javascript
<5> Allright
<3> dazjorz: If you're going to unhide something with Javascript, it should be hidden in Javascript in the first place
<5> Twey_: Okay
<3> dazjorz: Otherwise non-JS users won't be able to see it.
<5> Twey_: Yeah.
<5> Twey_: Can I just add that to the tag?
<3> dazjorz: No, you'll have to do it onload.
<5> Twey_: Okay.
<0> What am I doing wrong:
<0> wwsCurrentScrollWin.setScrollBars=wwsScrollCache.apply(wwsCurrentScrollWin);
<3> Jan-: Er.
<0> Go on
<0> Laugh
<0> See how I care!
<4> hey all - i use a little bit of javascript to change the content of a div and put a new img in it - but the img doesn't show up in IE6 -- do i need to do something to preload it
<0> wwsScrollCache() being a function, and wwsCurrentScrollWin being a pointer to a DOM object.
<3> jseval: var d = {'c': 'Hi' }; var a = function() { return function() { return this.c; } }; var b = a.apply(d);
<6> Twey_: Return: undefined
<3> ...
<0> At the mo, I have to use that DOM reference tons inside the function.
<0> I'd like to avoid it.
<3> jseval: var d = {'c': 'Hi' }; var a = function() { return function() { return this.c; } }; return a.apply(d);
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