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<0> There we go.
<1> sweet, thanks
<2> wait
<2> Aankhen``, what is this supposed to filter out exactly
<0> suv4x4: Properties added to the prototype.
<0> So if you have Object.prototype.bar, this will skip it.
<2> Aankhen``, that's FF only right
<0> No.
<3> suv4x4: is there a way to mark something as not enumerable?
<0> I've tested it in FF and IE... not sure about Opera or others.
<2> kosh[0], there should be but unfortunately this is sketchy accross browsers
<0> That reminds me, I think I forgot to install Opera 9.
<3> fair enough
<2> kosh[0], funny enough there's such thing in Flash (which also uses ECMAScript) for years, and people are always quicky to jump on Flash's ECMA support
<3> well tbh I aint sure why people don't support javascript properly :P loool
<3> laziness is the best I can come up with



<2> kosh[0], truth is even if the smaller browsers would do this, it won't pick up because of IE
<2> MS would never implement robust OOP language for the web they don't control
<3> fair play, I dont know why the js engine in browsers isnt a plugin anyway
<2> but now that their strategy actually changes, who knows
<3> want a better engine, just grab a newer plugin from <wherever>
<2> kosh[0], because it'd have even less of a chance
<0> suv4x4: Microsoft has its own agenda (VBScript).
<0> (Or ActiveX.)
<2> supporting 5-6 major browsers is enough
<3> LOL!
<2> I don't want more plugins
<3> as if someone is going to write in VBScript>!!
<3> loool
<3> vbscript is the most arcane, stupid, ridiculous langage I ever tried to learn
<2> Aankhen``, that was few years ago. They kinda are starting to deprecate ActiveX and all that now
<0> kosh[0]: It's still Microsoft's own language, which they'd much prefer everybody used. :-)
<3> it's totally uncohesive and incomprehensible, laying layer up layer of crap to try fix things they designed badly years ago, but can't remove cause of bad compatibility
<4> IE doesn't do Javascript anyway, it's JScript.
<0> Eh, no arguments from me on "VBScript ****s".
<2> kosh[0], vbscript is just legacy. If you wanna see a modern MS language, see C#
<3> ah, well better
<3> actually, for writing web applications, HTML/CSS is the most awful language ever
<2> Microsoft aren't idiots after all
<3> they arent?
<3> you didnt see the news?
<3> bill gates has been allowed to step down, I say no, I say keep him there forever, in cryostasis
<5> kosh: what about black men
<5> you cant tell me you're not the least bit curious
<3> what?
<3> dude, stop watching porn
<3> starting to worry me now
<5> nah i was showering at the gym today and there was a black man in there
<5> im not gonna lie, i took a look at the coal sausage
<3> hmmm
<6> hi
<3> hahhahahahhahaha
<5> and they're definitely a different breed
<3> BEST NAME EVER
<3> coal sausage
<3> ahhahahahh
<6> I would like to set a background image for a lot of <td> element; the images are the same; it works fine in firefox, but in internet explorer it's slow, becouse it downloads the image for every td. is there a way to make it faster?
<6> [lot's of <td> -s: about 400]
<7> SDr: Ever heard of css?
<6> I've tried pre-loading it w/ new Image, but it still downloads them
<6> Munter, the td's are dynamically changing, so it would require a css entry for every td; I would like to try that as a last result
<7> SDr: dynamically changing, how?
<0> SDr: Are they changing so dynamically that you can't ***ign each one a cl***?
<6> Aankhen``, there are about 400 of them
<7> That wasnt the question
<0> 400? Okay. My question still stands.
<8> How are you styling them?
<6> Munter, okay, basically I'm trying to create a rogue-like [-> nethack] game in JS w/ asp/.net back-end. so I've figured, I represent the board with a table
<6> so, they are changing about every second
<7> I havent played nethack, so I wouldnt know how dynamic that is
<6> I can ***ign to each one a cl***, but would it be fast enough from js in IE, that the whole board [400 td's] could be changed within 1 second?
<7> You still havent said anything that warrants setting a background with javascript though
<0> Munter: Board would change every time the player moves or perfroms an action.
<7> aha, but not the whole board
<0> s/perfroms/performs/
<7> only a few fields
<0> I guess.



<0> Yeah.
<7> the to and from fields of each moving element
<0> But you'd still have to loop to find those few.
<7> no, you have references to them
<0> Hmm...
<0> I don't remember all the possible actions, but what you're saying sounds right.
<0> s/right/correct/
<7> You have one default style for all cells
<7> then each item has a cl*** that you ***ign the cell
<7> the script then calculates the move of each item each turn, and updates the from field by removing the cl***, and adds the cl*** to the to field
<7> You dont have to iterate 400 cells, and you dont need more than a default styling anda cl*** for each monster/item
<7> I did an animal simulaor where we did the exact same opimization
<6> okay, I'll try that
<1> i cut my finger and it doesn't even hurt
<1> bleeding a lot though
<7> Try not to type :)
<9> Morning
<1> MacGuyver!
<9> It's spelled and pronounced differently. :)
<9> Also I'm not fictional and can barely remember the last time I saved civilisation with two rubber bands and a biro.
<1> ahh
<1> remember when MacGuyver dropped that guy off the cliff and he screamed "MacGuyver!" all the way down?
<7> Which one of the times?
<7> I think our hero has had that happen to him more than once
<1> well he had a lot of flashbacks about it
<1> because i think his brother or something came for him
<1> or maybe i'm confusing it with Die Hard
<7> In die hard he doesnt scream afair
<1> yeah, that's true, he's all silent
<7> Hansi :)
<1> Hans Grueber
<1> "Clay...Bill Clay"
<1> **** this time i cut myself deep
<9> I've never watched MacGuyver, so no. I don't remember it. :)
<1> youre kidding me
<1> such a good show
<9> (Nor have I watched Knight Ryder, Mr Ben, or any of the other 80s and 90s TV shows people seem determined to ***ociate with me...)
<1> i never saw mr ben
<1> what about airwolf?
<9> I spent most of the 80s and 90s in the middle east.
<1> oh wow
<9> Didn't have much in the way of TV access. :)
<9> Well, 80s and early 90s.
<1> did you do opium?
<9> Uh, no.
<1> i hear they have lots there
<9> I never encountered any. Also I was barely 11 when I left. :)
<1> oh thats good
<1> kids shouldnt do drugs
<1> the jury is still out on whether adults should
<1> but i'll take my chances
<6> DRMacIver, good for you.
<1> so why were you in the middle east? grew up there?
<6> I'm spending my days in the middle east right now, and it sux big time.
<9> My father was working there and the rest of us tagged along. :)
<6> DRMacIver, which country?
<9> Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Mostly Saudi.
<1> wow, bahrain is tiny, hardly saw you there
<1> all hidden by big old saudi arabia
<1> are they friends?
<1> people complain about mexico, but cmon, we're lucky to have them as neighbors, we get along well
<1> sometimes i think the US bullies them though
<10> !v http://neu.netzgil.de
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 5, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://neu.netzgil.de
<11> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://neu.netzgil.de
<10> !v http://neu.netzgil.de
<11> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://neu.netzgil.de
<11> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 2, Warnings: 12, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://neu.netzgil.de
<1> !v http://google.com
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 65, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://google.com
<11> CSS: Valid - Warning: 1, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://google.com
<1> oh awesome
<1> for (t in this) { alert(t); }


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